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Doctors prove that the Iceman was shot to death in the Alps [ Oetzi ]
Earth Times ^ | Wednesday, January 28, 2009 | DPA

Posted on 01/28/2009 7:00:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Doctors who studied the Iceman, a mummified Stone Age hunter found in Italy in 1991, announced conclusive proof Wednesday that he was shot to death with a flint-tipped arrow rather than dying of exposure as once thought. "He only lived for a short time after the arrow impact," said Andreas Nerlich, who headed a joint study by Ludwig Maximilians University of Munich and experts from Bolzano, Italy. Shortly before he was shot in the back, the Iceman suffered a non-lethal blow with a blunt object, possibly a stone from a slingshot, Nerlich's team said in a letter to the online journal Intensive Care Medicine... They said their findings, using new immunohistochemical techniques, of a fatal shot in the back supported the hypothesis that Oetzi was being chased at the time he was killed. The lesion from the blow was just below the arrow strike... A deep cut in the Iceman's hand, which has already been studied in the past, happened several days earlier, possibly in an accident with his flint knife. "In the space of a few days he had two injury sequences, which could possibly indicate two separate attacks on him," Nerlich said. Other scientists estimate Oetzi, who is now on display in the South Tyrol Archaeology Museum in Bolzano, died at age 46. His clothing and weapons offer a window into Stone Age lifestyles.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; godsgravesglyphs; iceman; oetzi; otzi; theiceman
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To: Revolting cat!; Mojave; School of Rational Thought; BIGLOOK; ClearCase_guy; ForGod'sSake; Ditto; ...

;’)


61 posted on 01/29/2009 4:51:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; MaxMax

You may have something there!


62 posted on 01/29/2009 4:51:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: bigheadfred
:'D Funny that he wasn't found during the medieval warming, when the glaciers really did recede in Europe.
The Little Ice Age: How Climate Made History 1300-1850 The Little Ice Age:
How Climate Made History 1300-1850

by Brian M. Fagan

Paperback

63 posted on 01/29/2009 4:53:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Frantzie

Thanks!


64 posted on 01/29/2009 4:53:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: ferri

My pleasure. Each time new tech (often emerging tech) is used to examine Oetzi, alterations to the model emerge. It’s interesting to read about.


65 posted on 01/29/2009 4:54:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

And he was AlGore the First.


66 posted on 01/29/2009 4:56:47 PM PST by Lady Jag (NOW MORE THAN EVER https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: Revolting cat!
I was thinking more along the lines of....

George Gervin. The original iceman.

67 posted on 01/29/2009 5:04:34 PM PST by DaGman
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To: SunkenCiv

He probably was. But you know, fear of the Black Death probably kept people from approaching anyone who appeared slightly dead, partly dead, mostly dead or plain old dead dead.


68 posted on 01/29/2009 5:08:09 PM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer!!! Run for your lives!!!)
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To: Thombo2

My pleasure. The human lifespan hasn’t changed much since the Middle Ages (at least one traveller lived to see an entire calendar century, i.e., the 14th century, but I’m not sure of the name or which century; one of my own ancestors lived from the 1650s to the 1750s), but life expectancy has improved somewhat since, say, the time of Henry VIIIth (I guess we could insert here some smart remarks about how Henry had something to do with shorter life expectancy...); it’s now around 80 in the industrialized world, whereas in Tudor England it was probably mid-50s.

Farther back, we see Augustus (first “real” Roman emperor) ruling for 40-41 years; he lived to be 77, while many members of his family, including most of his descendants, uh, didn’t make it that far. His successor Tiberius lived to be 78, and the fourth emperor Claudius lived into his 60s despite having been in terrible health throughout his life. Like now, better-off families enjoyed greater longevity, all other things being equal.

It would be nice to have more remains (of any kind, bones, anything) from Neolithic Europe (for that matter, Neolithic anywhere); probably life expectancy was around 40 or 45, but infant mortality must have been at least along the lines of fairly recent history in Europe and pretty much everywhere before Pasteur et al.


69 posted on 01/29/2009 5:09:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Drawsing

Good catch.


70 posted on 01/29/2009 5:09:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: bigheadfred

UNDERTAKER: Well, there’s three things we can do with your mum. We can bury her, burn her, or dump her.
MAN: (shocked) Dump her?
UNDERTAKER: Dump her in the Thames.
MAN: What?!?
UNDERTAKER: Oh, did you like her?
MAN: Yes!
UNDERTAKER: oh well, we won’t dump her then. Well, what do you think? We can bury her or burn her.


71 posted on 01/29/2009 5:12:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv
All about food and moderate labor, if you have those you have an edge. Then there is the ratio of male to female births, then it gets complicated.
72 posted on 01/29/2009 5:41:37 PM PST by Little Bill (Just a Poor White Person , clinging to God, Guns, and the Constitution)
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To: bigheadfred

No...it’s the mastadon.


73 posted on 01/29/2009 6:16:56 PM PST by Redcitizen (This tagline is 100% recycled from other taglines. It's "green")
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To: This_far
maybe he shouldn’t have been wearing skins during hunting season?

LOL. Polyester might have been a better fashion choice, but he sure wouldn't want to get to close to the camp fire. ;~))

74 posted on 01/29/2009 7:13:46 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Ditto

” maybe he shouldn’t have been wearing skins during hunting season?

LOL. Polyester might have been a better fashion choice, but he sure wouldn’t want to get to close to the camp fire. ;~))”

L here too... your reply flashed me to back to Dan Akroyd as the aged male prostitute on SNL... I may have perma linked Polyester to that. (perhaps it’s healthy — as in whatever it takes to maintain some semblance of sanity?)


75 posted on 01/29/2009 7:23:43 PM PST by This_far
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To: This_far
Dan Akroyd as the aged male prostitute on SNL... I may have perma linked Polyester to that.

The 70s were an ugly time in our history. ;~))

I actually saw a guy in a bar back then get his polyester shirt set on fire from one of those inevitable "flaming drink" mishaps.

76 posted on 01/29/2009 7:37:54 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Ditto

“I actually saw a guy in a bar back then get his polyester shirt set on fire from one of those inevitable “flaming drink” mishaps.”

I’m glad that I did not see what you must have. I’ve known firemen/EMT who related similar calls. (whiskey good, fire bad... don’t mix the two)

Without drifting too far (although it is an ‘old’ thread), I’ve seen some industrial accidents involving man made fiber used in ‘protective’ clothing (to wit... gloves) and have experienced the affects of hot metal, ever so briefly, coming in contact with safety shoes... the heat transfer to 50/50 cotton/poly sox was immediate/intense and painful!

On the other hand, there has not, to the best of my knowledge, been any push for pure cotton sox (but I’m not current on the CFR 29’s).

I didn’t need one anyway, I switched on my own. (I’m a ‘bad’ constituent - I didn’t petition my governmental representatives for ‘change’(s))


77 posted on 01/29/2009 7:56:58 PM PST by This_far
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To: SunkenCiv

i love stuff like this. i loved knowing that he ate moss. LOL i guess we’re weird. :)


78 posted on 01/29/2009 11:43:12 PM PST by ferri (Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane. - Philip K. Dick)
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To: ferri

:’)


79 posted on 01/30/2009 8:12:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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