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NAZIS’ CHURCH FOE REFUSES TO BREAK (12/30/38)
Microfiche-New York Times archives | 12/30/38 | No byline

Posted on 12/30/2008 5:40:30 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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1 posted on 12/30/2008 5:40:31 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: fredhead; r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; ...
This is an ecumenical thread, dealing with Protestants, Catholics and Jews. Not to mention a Kennedy update.

I thought I had posted an article about Pastor Niemoeller early in the year, but I couldn’t find anything in the archives so perhaps I am mistaken. The WWI U-boat commander’s “de luxe” accommodations during his seven years in the care of the German security apparatus were in Sachsenhausen at first and later at Dachau. He survived the war and lived until 1984, when he died at age 92. Quite a tough character.

Today he is best known for a poem that is generally attributed to him.

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."

2 posted on 12/30/2008 5:45:56 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I look forward to these posts every day. I can only wish they had a broader audience.

Thanks.


3 posted on 12/30/2008 6:17:16 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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"With the Arc Royal completed the navy has seven aircraft carriers in service and five more building. With the Admiralty's decision to develop its own air fleet until it becomes a striking arm of the first magnitude, these carriers immediately assume the importance almost equal to that of a battleship."

Do I read this correctly? Are they saying that in 1938, 12 (!!) aircraft carriers are considered of "importance almost equal to that of A battleship"?

Do the Brits really think they have 12 carriers to equal ONE battleship? And if the NY Times' syntax is just a bit garbled here, and they really mean to say, that EACH carrier "almost equals" a battleship, isn't that astonishing enough?

I had no idea the Brits had 12 carriers in service or building in 1938. You have to wonder, if they were "almost equal" to a battleship, why build so many?

British Illustrious class carriers


4 posted on 12/30/2008 6:43:11 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Not to mention a Kennedy update.

Right after that ski trip they switched to touch football.


5 posted on 12/30/2008 6:55:57 AM PST by DManA
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See you all at the Hotel New Yorker. That $10 cover is kind of steep but looks like a good value since you get Tommy Dorsey AND supper. Plus, they haven’t increased the drink prices.


6 posted on 12/30/2008 7:09:27 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (I would continue my rant but I have to make sure my tires are inflated.)
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I had no idea the Brits had 12 carriers in service or building in 1938.

According to a chart in Appendix F of Gathering Storm, At 9/3/39 the British had seven aircraft carriers operational and two under construction. That is more than I would have guessed but it is still a long way from twelve. Also, I would have expected battleships and carriers to be considered apples and oranges, as far as relative worth is concerned. Battleships were still considered the main offensive strikers while aircraft carriers were more of a useful innovation for ASW and support tasks.

7 posted on 12/30/2008 7:12:02 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: BroJoeK
Realize that the Arc Royal was the first "purpose built" aircraft carrier built by the British. The other 6 current carriers were converted from coalers or other ship designs much like the American aircraft carrier Langley. I did find it interesting that they had 5 additional purpose built carriers under construction as well as a commitment to make the naval air arm an actual force (though circumstance will effect this some).

The Arc Royal was commissioned only earlier this month too. I posted on that in the December 16th thread post #19. I have a link there that give more detail and a couple of post down there is a picture that isn't a little red x.

8 posted on 12/30/2008 7:24:08 AM PST by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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The article on Yugoslavia caught my eye (probably because I just finished reading “The Forgotten 500”) and I did some searching. I can’t find any record of the Italians turning over Zara (Zadar) to Yugoslavia. In fact I did find mention that the Itailians had 9,000 troops stationed there to help the Nazis take it over in ‘41 so I’m betting this deal did not go through.


9 posted on 12/30/2008 7:32:24 AM PST by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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Forgot to mention that Zara is an island about halfway down the Yugoslavia coast around the same parallel as Novegrad.


10 posted on 12/30/2008 7:35:05 AM PST by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Hitler ordered the national anthem slowed? The details the “leader” involved himself in is amazing. Correlation to today?


11 posted on 12/30/2008 9:47:02 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Hitler ordered the national anthem slowed? The details the “leader” involved himself in is amazing. Correlation to today?


12 posted on 12/30/2008 9:47:10 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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I look forward to these posts every day. I can only wish they had a broader audience.

I'm glad you enjoy them. The audience is not too skimpy. They generally get at least 200-400 views. The one on Saturday is at 1,070 and counting. Anything involving tanks gets a lot of attention. I figure interest may build as 1939 moves along and the headlines become increasingly sensational. I find that the thread title is a major factor in attracting viewers. If I can arrange a thread that combines "Hitler," "tanks" and "scantily clad ladies" I will have a winner.

13 posted on 12/30/2008 9:51:19 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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It seems that skiing into Trees etc is a generational thing for the Kennedys.


14 posted on 12/30/2008 11:05:30 AM PST by mowowie
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Thanks for these pings!!
VERY interesting reading.


15 posted on 12/30/2008 11:06:35 AM PST by mowowie
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Imagine the clientele you would attract if you opened a joint called “The Game Cock” nowadays, LOL.


16 posted on 12/30/2008 11:21:56 AM PST by mowowie
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How about “Hitler introduces new tank at Berlin Wet T-Shirt Contest”. Wasn’t that in 1940?


17 posted on 12/30/2008 1:22:00 PM PST by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
See you all at the Hotel New Yorker. That $10 cover is kind of steep but looks like a good value since you get Tommy Dorsey AND supper. Plus, they haven’t increased the drink prices.

Benny Goodman has a regular gig at one of the local hotel showrooms so he will probably be performing too. Maybe bar hopping is in order. I should have included the weather forecast so we could plan better. Arrive early and hunker down for the night or park the roadster nearby and catch a set at the New Yorker and move on down the road.

18 posted on 12/30/2008 3:37:25 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Not to mention a Kennedy update.

Their propensity for injury on the ski slope must have been hereditary.

19 posted on 12/30/2008 4:50:54 PM PST by PAR35
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“I thought I had posted an article about Pastor Niemoeller early in the year, but I couldn’t find anything in the archives “

NAZIS DROP MARCH AS AUSTRIA RINGS GRAZ WITH STEEL (Real time + 70 years)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1977632/posts
(In post 7, not the article)

See also your post 15 here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1856749/posts
“70 years ago tomorrow (6/27/37) a Dr. Niemoeller, disillusioned with the Nazi regime, preached his last sermon. Three days later he was arrested and confined to Moabit prison. He wound up in Dachau, where he was liberated by Allied troops in 1945.”


20 posted on 12/30/2008 4:56:37 PM PST by PAR35
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