Discovery Channel Shroud of Turin documentary will air again this Saturday

Shroud.com email | 12/18/2008 | Barrie Schwortz

[Swordmaker]

In case you missed it last Sunday, the new Shroud documentary "Unwrapping the Shroud: New Evidence," will be airing again on Discovery Channel this coming Saturday evening, December 20 at 10:00pm eastern and again two hours later at 12:00am (early Sunday morning). Check your local listings for the exact time in your area.

[Swordmaker]

Discovery Shroud documentary with Ray Rogers discoveries will re-air on Saturday night... PING!

If you want on or off the Shroud of Turin Ping List, Freepmail me.

[Anita1]

More info:

http://shroudofturin.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/new-shroud-documentary-to-air-on-discovery-channel-in-december/

[LilAngel]

Is somebody missing from this thread? I think we’re one troll short. I wonder who it could be.

Merry Christmas.

[newfreep]

As someone without cable, is this available as a stream?

[Swordmaker]

As someone without cable, is this available as a stream?

I don't know. Anyone?

[Caipirabob]

Could you please tell me if this is a supportive documentary or are they trying to debunk it again?

Heck, I won't even watch a historical documentary that references BCE/CE instead of the correct BC/AD. F'* the anti-Christs...

[preacher]

Supportive

[mware]

thanks for the heads up.

To be honest I have become very cautious watching video regarding religion, especially by PBS, History Channel and Discovery.

[FES0844]

Perhaps I was half asleep but I thought one of the “experts” claimed that the blood stains on the shroud could only be made by a LIVE body concluding that Christ was still ALIVE when taken down from the cross & covered in the shroud. At that point, I shut it off.

[Caipirabob]

Thanks Preacher...sorry for cussin'. : )

[Battle Axe]

Thanks for the ping. I am a weaver and on my bucket list is to weave a replica of the Shroud. I have seen some closeups of it and there are numerous mistakes in it as if it were woven by a child.

I've taught over 20 Amish girls how to weave, and these are the kinds of mistakes they make.

I have the linen, but had to sell that loom. Perhaps I will buy it back and get it done. Am only 62 now. I figure I have 25 plus or minus years left to get this done.

I will donate it to the church where I was baptized.

I do not think that it is ‘the one’. But it is similar.

There was a time when I was looking at the photos. It reminded me of an old package of hamburger where the liquid has puddled in the bottom and soaked through the wax layer and rippled the surface of the paper.

Someone was dead inside this fabric, but I am not sure who. Look at the copy cat stuff we have today. Shoe hurlers etc. People are the same, there were copy cats in 1300 too.

BA

[Desdemona]

How supportive? Every time I watch a special on the Shroud, details are omitted. You have to take the body of research as a whole, not in parts, to get the whole picture (no pun intended).

[NYer]

Thank you for the reminder. I enjoyed the first program and will probably watch the rerun. Are you familiar with this book and how would you rate it?

From Amazon.com

Product Description
Potrait of Jesus? is a comprehensive and up-to-the-minute account of the Shroud of Turin which, according to legend, was the garment which covered Jesus in the tomb. Frank Tribbe has for many years been a member of the elite group of scientists and researchers studying the Shroud. His book takes all their findings into account to show that, contrary to claims that it is a medieval hoax, the Shroud is an authentic first-century relic from the Near East, probably Palestine. The massive evidence which Tribbe presents from decades of research makes Portrait of Jesus? the best resource for knowledge about the Shroud. This edition contains updates on all findings to the present. “This book pulls together all existing information on the Shroud…It also provides ingenious theories of how the Shroud found its way from the Jerusalem of the Apostles to the France of the 14th century… . The reasonable man may find it harder than he imagines to dismiss the Shroud of Turin after reading this book.” -James C. O’Neill, National Catholic News Service “Comprehensive and accurate information… .” -Rev. Adam J. Otterbein, C.SS.R., S.T.D., President of the Holy Shroud Guild “An invaluable resource for us all… especially important for every thinking Christian.” -Rev. Dr. Edward J. Bauman, Senior Minister of Foundry United Methodist Church, Washington, DC

About the Author
FRANK C. TRIBBE is retired in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia after a 40-year career as a U.S. government attorney, with assignments in the Office of Chief of Engineers, logistics advisor to the French Army in North Africa (World War Two), staff of Mediterranean Judge Advocate General (World War Two) and U.S. Information Agency. He is a writer, editor and lecturer on subjects of consciousness, spirituality, Bible research, the paranormal, the Shroud of Turin and the Holy Grail. Since 1974 he has been Editor of the journal Spiritual Frontiers.

He is author and/or editor of Creative Meditation (1975), Speculations on the Nature of God (1986), Ashby Guidebook for Study of the Paranormal (1986), An Echo in Search of a Mountain (1995), Denny and the Mysterious Shroud (1998), An Arthur Ford Anthology (1999), I, Joseph of Arimathea (2000), The Holy Grail Mystery Solved (2003), and Spirit Images (in press). He has contributed chapters to 14 anthologies, and has written scores of articles and reviews for periodicals worldwide.

[maine-iac7]

Could you please tell me if this is a supportive documentary or are they trying to debunk it again?

It 'debunks" the carbon dating results - even the head scientist now realizes the samples they were given to test were from an area that had been patched with an ancient technique called "French Reweaving" - which resulted in the carbon dating showing a much later date than the actual shroud.

Under different testing, they were able to see the cotton threads of the reweave, interwoven with the older linen = and that is what gave the incorrect carbon dating.

I see this post cites a notice from an email from Barrie Schwortz...You can see updates on his web site. This is authentic - He sent me the same update. ("Dear M...In case you missed it last Sunday, the new Shroud documentary "Unwrapping the Shroud: New Evidence," will be airing again on Discovery Channel this coming Saturday evening, December 20 at 10:00pm eastern and again two hours later at 12:00am (early Sunday morning). Check your local listings for the exact time in your area....")

He was one of the original scientists on the 1978 team...went in skeptical. He is one of the foremost advocates of the Shroud and to be trusted.

http://www.shroud.com/

[maine-iac7]

re your post #4 - right out of the gate: "Is somebody missing from this thread? I think we’re one troll short. I wonder who it could be."

care to explain?

[maine-iac7]

For more detail - go directly to Barrie S’s web site and page on this:

http://www.shroud.com/latebrak.htm

Isn’t the net a great tool - along with GOOGLE at our fingertips, we can find most info in the world for ourselves...

[Swordmaker]

Perhaps I was half asleep but I thought one of the “experts” claimed that the blood stains on the shroud could only be made by a LIVE body concluding that Christ was still ALIVE when taken down from the cross & covered in the shroud. At that point, I shut it off.

I think you are thinking of another program. This one has Dr. Zugibe, a forensic pathologist stating that the body was a dead body. It has the late Raymond Rogers explaining why the 1988 carbon dating results are invalid... and proving it, with peer-reviewed and replicated science.

[chesty_puller]

I tried to TiVo it. It’s not on DirectTV’s schedule. No way I will remember to watch it. I’m getting older and doofuser.

[FES0844]

Thanks for the correction. I’ll watch for it.