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Posted on 12/05/2008 9:10:10 AM PST by djf

OK.

I have a bunch of empty Grolsch bottles and have been thinking about doing some moon shining of sorts.

Any Freepers ever home-brew? Beer? Hard cider?

Curious about experiences and recommendations, and since Freepers are the smartest people in the world, figured it needed a thread!


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1 posted on 12/05/2008 9:10:11 AM PST by djf
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To: djf; knews_hound
Pinging the home-brew list...

Don't expect to save a great deal of money; do expect to brew exactly the beer you like.

2 posted on 12/05/2008 9:12:16 AM PST by Billthedrill
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Cider is by far the easiest.

Look up recipes on the net.

3 posted on 12/05/2008 9:12:16 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: djf

I recommend taking up reloading your own ammo.


4 posted on 12/05/2008 9:12:32 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: djf
Brewing beer (for your own/family consumption) isn't "moonshining", it's perfectly legal. There's a large, world-wide industry devoted to supplying materials and equipment to home brewers.

Google < home brewing > ... the internet is your friend.

5 posted on 12/05/2008 9:13:15 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To start, you'll be brewing in five-gallon batches so you need to make sure you have enough of the 16 oz. Grolsch bottles. They will need to be sanitized. Pay special attention to the rubber washer on the cap.

You will need to start with a heavier ale to get the hang of things. An upscale beer store or deli should have all the equipment/ingredients you need, plus some literature . . . make sure you do your reading first.

6 posted on 12/05/2008 9:14:23 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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http://forum.northernbrewer.com/viewtopic.php?p=30637

http://new.craftbrewer.org/Digest/me...msg00662.shtml

“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” — Benjamin Franklin
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7 posted on 12/05/2008 9:14:59 AM PST by A. Morgan
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Any Freepers ever home-brew? Beer? Hard cider?

You might want to ask the folks from Dickens' Fruit Stand...

8 posted on 12/05/2008 9:16:43 AM PST by JRios1968 (Sarah Palin is what Willis was talkin' about!)
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http://oz.craftbrewer.org/Library/Gear/GSanders/GSbrewDay.shtml


9 posted on 12/05/2008 9:18:08 AM PST by A. Morgan
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To: 1rudeboy

As a person who cooks quite a bit, I understand that usually things turn out best if you make more - for instance, when I make lasagna, I never make fewer than three at a time.

But I was thinking about starting smaller than 5 gallons - 2.5 to 3 or so, just to get the hang of it. Is it safe to bottle the stuff when it’s still fermenting a bit?

There is a beer making supply place not super close, but I can get there.


10 posted on 12/05/2008 9:19:58 AM PST by djf (...heard about a couple livin in the USA, he said they traded in their baby for a Chevrolet...)
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I tried making wine from fresh berries for a few years. The best “wine” I ever made though wasn’t wine at all. To get to 12% alcohol, you need 3 pounds of sugar per gallon (really). My real wines always tasted funky because of wild yeast that naturally grows on fruits. That is why wine you buy in stores contains sulfites to kill wild yeast. My wife is allergic to sulfites. One year, I omitted the fruit altogether and just used the cane sugar. I got a golden drink like a reisling. Other times I have added flavorings after making the cane wine.


11 posted on 12/05/2008 9:20:21 AM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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Try this link.

FReeper Knews_Hound Article On Brewing Beer

12 posted on 12/05/2008 9:21:41 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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Is it safe to bottle the stuff when it’s still fermenting a bit?

That's how they get bubbles in bottles.

13 posted on 12/05/2008 9:21:49 AM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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Here's some links for you

It can be a lot of work. Easier to make vodka?

14 posted on 12/05/2008 9:22:28 AM PST by smokingfrog (Buy'em cheap. Bury'em deep.)
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I’ve home brewed beer probably 100 times. Do it every fall/winter -— two batches.

Now is the time . . . cool garage is a pretty good place, so you don’t get yeast spores everywhere.

I do a two-stage brew set up.

It’s very easy. Just keep stuff VERY CLEAN.

I also tend to overkill on yeast -— it will grow with a little, but a lot will overpower any contamination -— within reason, you can’t over do it.


15 posted on 12/05/2008 9:22:42 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware of Obama's Reichstag Fire; Don't permit him to seize emergency powers.)
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Yes, in general you add some malt to re-vigorate fermintation in the bottle.

I prefer my own bottles with a capper over using old Grolsch bottles -— never fully confident the rubber “caps” get clean.

It’s not like they are expensive.


16 posted on 12/05/2008 9:24:18 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware of Obama's Reichstag Fire; Don't permit him to seize emergency powers.)
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The place where I worked in college sold 5 gal. carboys and all the ingredients were portioned to brew 5 gal. batches.

Someone else may come along here to say that 2.5 gal. carboys are available but I can't.

17 posted on 12/05/2008 9:25:58 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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Couple articles I read actually recommend sort of priming the yeast by mixing it into a cup of warm sugar water a few hours before you are ready to add it to the mix.

But I’ve never done this before and am interested other folks experiences.


18 posted on 12/05/2008 9:27:01 AM PST by djf (...heard about a couple livin in the USA, he said they traded in their baby for a Chevrolet...)
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To: MeanWestTexan

We used to sell replacement washers for the flip-top bottles. Probably a good idea to replace them before bottling the batch.


19 posted on 12/05/2008 9:27:58 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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Is it safe to bottle the stuff when it’s still fermenting a bit?

No...and yes. Here's the deal. Your wort starts off being attacked by the yeasties, who break down the first and easiest carbohydrate bonds. This is "primary" fermentation, and you get lots of foam, called "kreuzen." As those carbohydrates are broken down completely the yeast shift metabolic gears to work on other bonds (the ultimate result of which is ethanol, a VERY simple carbohydrate). This is "secondary" fermentation. Lots less foam, still not safe to bottle.

When all this stops you're ready to bottle. What you do is add a very little, carefully controlled amount of malt just before the bottling. This wakes up the yeasties and carbonates the beverage in the bottle. That's the only kind of fermentation that's safe. Bottle too soon with secondary going on or overestimate the amount of bottling malt and you get a bottle full of foam or little popping sounds coming from yer basement...which is bad news because it tastes bad after you wring it out of a mop. Don't ask me how I know that... ;-)

20 posted on 12/05/2008 9:28:10 AM PST by Billthedrill
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