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The lies of Lynchburg: How U.S. evolutionists taught the Nazis.
Answers In Genesis ^ | September 1997 | Carl Wieland

Posted on 12/01/2008 2:33:55 PM PST by Fichori

First published:
Creation 19(4):22–23
September 1997

by Carl Wieland

The chilling revelations of a recent television documentary1 expose the disturbing consequences of evolutionary ways of thinking. Beginning in the 1920s, many thousands of people in the United States were sterilised against their will and without their consent, to prevent ‘undesirable breeding’. Over 8,000 of these procedures took place at a major centre to which such ‘undesirables’ were sent, in Lynchburg, Virginia.

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TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: crevo; crevolist; eugenics; evolution; hitler; lynchburg; nazi; virginia
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To: ZULU

Well said!


181 posted on 12/03/2008 6:55:55 AM PST by Ditter
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To: allmendream
The theory of evolution through natural selection of genetic variation is the preeminent biological theory around the world, with or without public funding, and often in the face of initial government opposition.

Yes, your new world order is almost standing. All that is left is a bit of mixing miry clay with some iron.

The theory has won out due to the strength of its ability to explain and predict the data.

The theory has NOT won squat it got it divine creation at the legislating of some dressed in black robes. Time is one thing NOT on the theory's side.

Do you think the theory of universal gravitation of mass is similarly dependent upon public funding? That if they stopped teaching it in public schools and researching it at public universities that it would “wither on the vine”?

But of course the TOE is completely dependent upon public funding, it is the first case of a permanent welfare class to be created in this nation. Gravity is one of those 'laws' set in motion when the heavens and earth were created and no amount of money will ever control the laws of gravity. Amazing how lofty minds attempt to compare things like apes to humankind as sameness of gravity to their own creation aptly named TOE.

182 posted on 12/03/2008 6:56:46 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts
You think U.S. jurisprudence is the only reason evolution through natural selection is the preeminent biological theory around the world?

What a joke.

You think scientists in Great Britain were waiting around to see what a U.S. judge had to say on the matter, or were they discerning the double helical structure of DNA while showing Lamarckian mechanisms to be in error and demonstrating the power of selective pressure?

183 posted on 12/03/2008 7:07:02 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Is gambling non-teleological or do you think God is in control of who wins and who loses? Random is not synonymous with ‘not under God's control’.

Prov 16:33 The dice are cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the Lord.

184 posted on 12/03/2008 7:10:04 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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To: tacticalogic
So basically, we're talking about eliminating public education.

You think the highly esteemed intellectuals would ever admit that teaching young minds they are just a few randoms evolutionary steps from great apes has been an abysmal failure? NOT a chance... These great highly esteemed minds should stand a take a bow for what they have created.

The one thing that can be demonstrated with evidence is that the queens of welfare have spread their TOE methodology from the top down.

185 posted on 12/03/2008 7:16:11 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: allmendream
You think U.S. jurisprudence is the only reason evolution through natural selection is the preeminent biological theory around the world? What a joke. You think scientists in Great Britain were waiting around to see what a U.S. judge had to say on the matter, or were they discerning the double helical structure of DNA while showing Lamarckian mechanisms to be in error and demonstrating the power of selective pressure?

And where is the first place where the word 'curve' got used in describing the human anatomy?

186 posted on 12/03/2008 7:19:23 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Relevance?


187 posted on 12/03/2008 7:22:20 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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To: Just mythoughts
You think the highly esteemed intellectuals would ever admit that teaching young minds they are just a few randoms evolutionary steps from great apes has been an abysmal failure?

It appears that you are proposing eliminating public education. Is that what you're proposing or not?

If it is, what do you propose to replace it with?

188 posted on 12/03/2008 7:23:40 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: allmendream
Relevance?

You think U.S. jurisprudence is the only reason evolution through natural selection is the preeminent biological theory around the world? What a joke. You think scientists in Great Britain were waiting around to see what a U.S. judge had to say on the matter, or were they discerning the double helical structure of DNA while showing Lamarckian mechanisms to be in error and demonstrating the power of selective pressure?

According to your own words you give credit to discerning the double helical structure of DNA as though nobody else ever had a clue.

Now answer my question if you can?

189 posted on 12/03/2008 7:25:54 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts
No. I give credit to discerning the double helical structure of DNA as if Watson and Crick (based on the work of Rosalind Franklin) actually elucidated the molecular structure and 3-D conformation of DNA. My point is in no way dependent upon nobody else having a clue.

Do you think British scientists were waiting for what a U.S. judge had to say about evolution before doing research on the subject?

190 posted on 12/03/2008 7:29:14 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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To: tacticalogic
It appears that you are proposing eliminating public education. Is that what you're proposing or not? If it is, what do you propose to replace it with?

Sure why not eliminate public education as legislated under TOE. Or require the producers of said public education to take responsibility for their products. But NOT one evolutionist will stand up and take responsibility for the outcomes of what their TOE has reaped. Now how many generations have been educated under the 'you are just a couple of steps away from the great apes Johnny and/or Susie?

191 posted on 12/03/2008 7:31:16 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Sure why not eliminate public education as legislated under TOE.

If you're serious about this, then you're going to have put it in terms of things that actually exist. There is no legislation "under TOE".

Do you actually have an idea you want to propose for consideration or are you just looking for attention while you vent?

192 posted on 12/03/2008 7:38:43 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: allmendream
No. I give credit to discerning the double helical structure of DNA as if Watson and Crick (based on the work of Rosalind Franklin) actually elucidated the molecular structure and 3-D conformation of DNA. My point is in no way dependent upon nobody else having a clue.

I give credit to the ONE who created the double helical structure of DNA and planted into the WORD as evidence for those with discernment would know where credit actually belongs.

I also have no problem acknowledging the flesh beings that stumbled upon the structure of DNA, but they are not gods to me.

Do you think British scientists were waiting for what a U.S. judge had to say about evolution before doing research on the subject?

I have NO clue what British scientists were thinking about US judges declaration of the viability of evolution. The competitive nature of who got there first could mean many things about what British scientists were thinking.

193 posted on 12/03/2008 7:41:24 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts

So in other words, No. British scientists could care less about U.S. jurisprudence either for or against teaching evolution. Scientists worldwide use the theory for its explanatory and predictive powers,irrespective of public funding or U.S. jurisprudence.

The theory stands on its merits. It is taught in Biology class because it is the theory that Biologists around the world use.


194 posted on 12/03/2008 7:45:38 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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To: tacticalogic
If you're serious about this, then you're going to have put it in terms of things that actually exist. There is no legislation "under TOE".

Oh please, it is legislation by judges that gave birth to the public funding of TOE. There is NO oversight allowed for teaching little kids they are animals only demands for more money to teach more of the same nonsense. And since the inception of this highly esteemed ideology there is mass need for routine stops at the nurse's office for the daily drugs to sedate these kids because they act like animals. You teach a child they are animals and that is exactly what you are going to end up having at the nearest welfare lines.

Do you actually have an idea you want to propose for consideration or are you just looking for attention while you vent?

Now some would consider your clever wording a personal attack. The TOE methodology is in total and complete charge of public education, how about the preachers of said theory take responsibility for their outcomes.

195 posted on 12/03/2008 8:02:06 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Oh please, it is legislation by judges that gave birth to the public funding of TOE.

Can you tell me exactly what legislation you want changed, and what you want it changed to?

196 posted on 12/03/2008 8:05:52 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Now some would consider your clever wording a personal attack.

If you want to consider it a personal attack, and are prepared to argue that then report me for abuse and we can take it up with the moderator. I'll respect whatever decision they make and apologize if I'm out of line.

197 posted on 12/03/2008 8:07:58 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: allmendream
The theory stands on its merits. It is taught in Biology class because it is the theory that Biologists around the world use.

Therein lies the problem with the lack of discernment of how the application of the TOE does NOT stay in biology class. IF a child is taught in biology class that they are a few random steps of descent from the great apes, what makes you think they are NOT going to emulate a great ape walking to the next class or taking this primary animal behavior home with them? Based upon the condition of public education I say the evidence is on my side of all things considered.

198 posted on 12/03/2008 8:09:05 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: tacticalogic
Can you tell me exactly what legislation you want changed, and what you want it changed to?

First one would need competent teachers to teach the subject. The TOE is against God and yet in our very own founding it is the Creator that is acknowledged to be the giver of primary rights of Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. It should be a 'right' to each and every citizen to be informed fully on what the theory claims without the artwork of course. And that a significant number of the population at large does NOT agree with the TOE.

199 posted on 12/03/2008 8:17:28 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Evidence of appeal to consequences?

Your initial point was that the theory was dependent upon public funding. Obviously this is not the case. Now you bring up the fallacy of appeal to consequences.

It didn’t make any more sense when Thomas Paine did it. The truth is the truth, consequences be damned (or forgiven as the case may be).

“Accustom a people to believe that priests, or any other class of men can forgive sins, and you will have sins in abundance” Thomas Paine


200 posted on 12/03/2008 8:17:40 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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