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Will religion end on Mars?
economic times (India) ^ | 6/28/2008 | Mukul Sharma,

Posted on 06/30/2008 11:40:53 AM PDT by Soliton

For example, some people are already writing off most major religions which are based essentially on an Earth-centric model, as never being able to recover from such a crippling body blow. (The Bible makes no mention of other planets or life on other planets.)

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To: js1138

Yes, Bruno got burned at the stake for saying, not only that the earth was not the immovable center of the universe, but that other stars had other planets with life and that God would have to send an ‘alien Jesus’ to those planets for their spiritual redemption.


101 posted on 06/30/2008 12:34:55 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: Soliton

You’re assuming quite a bit about the eternal fate of said martians, if they even have a fate at all. Perhaps said aliens are the “sons of heaven” as some christians have believed and were never in need of salvation. We can speculate about it all we like, but we can not make any concrete statments. What is certain is that not every major interpretation of the bible holds that aliens would need salvation.


102 posted on 06/30/2008 12:35:25 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Soliton

Other atheists: “From your lips to God’s ears...”

(oh, wait)


103 posted on 06/30/2008 12:36:22 PM PDT by mikrofon (Our Father's Art is in the Heavens)
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To: Soliton
I don't know who Muky is, but FReepers usually enjoy a thought provoking question

I can see how thought provoking it all is to you -- you don't really care enough to pay attention to who authors your posts.

The author of the drivel you cite (from the ever so important "India Times") is Mukul Sharma. Guru Muky may perhaps make a marvelous Martian mullah, but he's no great thinker, but I bet you fancy yourself a great comedian.

104 posted on 06/30/2008 12:38:56 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: Soliton

The supernatural would be the obvious choice.


105 posted on 06/30/2008 12:39:45 PM PDT by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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To: wendy1946

>> That causes considerably more angst amongst evolutionites than it does amongst Christians.

That’s good enough news — though I’m not clear on why that would cause angst among evolutionists, or Christians.

H


106 posted on 06/30/2008 12:40:15 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Jack Bauer for President '08 -- All the world's terrorists hate him. Sounds like a fair fight.)
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To: Soliton

Why? Do you think all the gentiles who died before the resurrection are burning in hell? Do you think God didn’t love the six year old eaten by a mountain lion somewhere in the Appalachias in 1205 AD, or the native woman in the Amazon jungle who died in childbirth yesterday? What if Helen Keller had died before she learned to communicate- would she have been doomed to Hellfire for all eternity?

I believe God is a merciful God. Just, yes- but a justice tempered with mercy. When you get into such speculative depths as we are treading now, sometimes all you can say is “God knows....”


107 posted on 06/30/2008 12:41:06 PM PDT by Eepsy (12-30-2008 +1)
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To: allmendream; RightWhale

Most people would call a five sided pyramid a mile and a half on an edge evidence of inhabitation.

108 posted on 06/30/2008 12:41:38 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Soliton

“The Bible makes no mention of other planets”

oh...


109 posted on 06/30/2008 12:42:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Soliton

I checked your profile page.

I too am a child of a preacher. My late Mother, Reverend Collette Jane Barker was the Pastor of the United Fellowship Center in Galloway Ohio. But I came to a different belief then you. I believe in God, and I believe that I am his creation, and just as he created the heavens and the earth, he created me.


110 posted on 06/30/2008 12:42:55 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: wendy1946
There’s a good deal of evidence indicating that Mars was inhabited before the flood. That causes considerably more angst amongst evolutionites than it does amongst Christians.

Could you post some details or sources for that?

Thanks!

111 posted on 06/30/2008 12:46:01 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: messierhunter
To them, such a discovery would only serve to affirm the Bible, not contradict it.

Bravo, my point exactly. There is no litmus paper test for God, nor will there ever be, because all we have to offer Him is our faith. I don't expect the Bible to show me how Uranium decays, and I don't ask a science book to teach me how to spiritually relate to God's forgiveness. And yet, if you let them, you can set both of them side by side on your shelf and a rich, meaninful life.

112 posted on 06/30/2008 12:48:27 PM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: wendy1946

Most people are not seeing these features this way. The 21st century equivalent of canali aren’t there. It’s going to take a lot more than imagination to sell this one.


113 posted on 06/30/2008 12:50:55 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

  ... as seen on the web...

ANCIENT NAMES OF THE PLANETS
EXPLAINED FROM THEIR PRIMITIVE ROOTS
Prophecies &c. corresponding with the names
URANUS
Texts where the word is used in this sense in the Hebrew Bible Hebrew Roots
  Burman, Rahi, Rahini, failing, Arab. sense. afraid Isa 44:8 hhr
SATURN
Heb 4:1-9
Deut 12:10
Isa 11:10
Heb., Sabbatei, resting.
or
rest Gen 2:2 tb#
Isa 58:12
Eze 16:53
  — Sabbath, dwelling dwell Deut 12:10  
  — Sabbath, restoring restoreth Psa 23:3
Isa 58:12
b#
Exo 33:14 Arab., Zohal, hiding, sheltering shadow Judg 9:15 lc
Isa 58:12   — Refan, resting slack Josh 10:6  
Mal 4:2
Deut 32:39
Copt., Refe, Refan, Remphan, restoring
or
healeth Exo 15:26 )pr
Isa 53:5 Egypt., Seb, as Sabbatei
Acts 1:6 Sansc., Aspujat, as Sabbatei
    — Sani, Arab. sense, hiding, defending shield 1 Sam 17:7 hnc
  Persian, Kivon Chiun Amos 5:26 Nwyk
Psa 31:20
Isa 16:3
Scandinavian, Satur, hiding protection Deut 32:38 rts
Exo 34:7 Gr., Phainon, covering, hiding. (Arab. sense, rest.) forgive Gen 50:17 )n)
    — Kronos, quiet cool Prov 17:27 rq
Psa 17:8 Lat., Saturn, hiding, as Satur
JUPITER
Jer 23:6
Acts 3:14
Acts 7:52
Heb., Zedek, just, Isa 45:21
Heb., Zedek, true, Isa 41:26
righteous
 
Isa 53:11
 
qdc
 
Num 24:19
Deut 1:15
Arab., Al Moshtari, having dominion Job 38:33 r+#m
    — Gad, good fortune
Micah 5:2 Copt., Picheus, glorious, Arab. sense.
or
 
Jer 10:10
John 14:6
Egypt., Ammon, true truth Isa 65:16 Nm)
Col 1:15 Sansc., Brahaspati, originating
Sansc., Brahaspati, revealing, as below
create
 
Gen 1:1
 
)rb
 
Eph 5:23   — Urishaspiti, chief, head first Exo 13:13 r+p
  Scand., Thor, who breaks or bruises; cut, Arab. razor Num 6:5 r(t
Psa 22:28
Acts 5:31
Gr., Pheton, or Phaeton, coming came Isa 41:5 )h)
  — Dis,* second. Chald., du, two
Exo 3:14
John 8:58
Lat., Jupiter, who is
Lat., Jupiter, revealing, interpreting
Jah
 
Psa 68:4
Gen 40:8
hy
rhp
MARS
Exo 12:22
Isa 63:2
Heb., Adom, red, bloodshedding blood Josh 20:3 Md
Rev 19:13   — Madim, made like blood, Arab. sense wounded  
  Arab., Melekh, as Melokh
Pers., Azar, blood-flowing, Arab. sense distress Gen 35:3 hrc
Gen 3:15 Copt., Melokh, broken, bruised.
or
wring Lev 1:15 qlm
Isa 53:4,5
Zech 13:6
Egypt, Khons, wounded. (Hercules) smitten Isa 53:4 hkn
Matt 28:18 Sansc., Khonda, as Khons
    — Angareka, wounded stricken Isa 53:4 (gn
  — Mangala, the same
Isa 49:25 Scand., Tuisco, striving strove Gen 26:20 q#(
    — Tyr, Tys, as Mars
Heb 12:3 Gr., Pirois, bruising or bruised Isa 42:3 Ccr
    — Puroeis, fire colour
  — Ares, as Mars
Lat., Mars, bruised or breaker brakest Psa 74:14
VENUS
Isa 60:19 Heb., Nogah, bright shining Isa 4:5 (gn
Song 6:10   — Hillel, very bright Lucifer Isa 14:12 llh
Rev 20:11
Rev 21:5
Arab., Al Zoharah, bright shine Dan 12:3 rhz
Isa 14:12 Copt., Surath, morning twilight morning Song 6:10 rx#
    — Athor, coming or bringing light light 2 Sam 23:4 rw)
Isa 60:3 Egypt., Athyr, as Athor
Song 1:5
Song 6:10
Sansc., Sikra, dawn, twilight dawning Josh 6:15 rx#
    — Sivah, bright brightness Dan 2:31 wyz
Song 4:1-7 Scand., Freya or Frigga, fair, bright glorified Isa 60:9 r)p
  Gr., Heosphorous, Hesperus, beautiful garnished Job 26:13 rp#
Psa 97:11   — Phosphorus, light-bringer or beautiful
    — Aphrodite, who is fruitful
  — Hera, who bears
Lat., Lucifer, light-bringer. Vesper, as Hesperus
Song 4:10
Eph 5:27
  — Venus, lovely grace Prov 1:9 Nh
MERCURY
Job 23:6
Psa 24:8
Psa 98:9
Heb., Catab, powerful, strong
Heb., Catab, who cometh
power
cometh
Num 14:17
Psa 96:13
xk
)b
John 14:3
Acts 1:11
  — Cochab, coming as in a circle star Num 24:17 bkwk
Psa 2:8
Psa 72:8
Rev 19:15
Arab., Otared, coming to have dominion Num 24:19 hdr
Rev 1:7 Copt, Thaut, coming
or
come Deut 33:2 )h)
Psa 113:4   — Pi-ermes, that cometh moveth Gen 9:2 #md
Hab 2:3
Heb 10:37
Egypt., Thoth, as Thaut Isa 6:1 Mr
2 Thess 2:1,8 Sansc., Bouta, or Budha, coming coming Mal 3:2 )b
Psa 110:2 Scand., Woden, coming passed Job 28:8 hh(
Rev 1:14 Gr., Stilbon, who is bright
or
white Dan 12:10 Nbl
    — Hermes, as Pi-ermes above
Mark 8:38
John 14:3
Jude 14
2Thess 2:8
Rev 22:20
Lat., Mercurius, strong, Arab. sense Lord Dan 2:47 )rm
Lat., Mercurius, coming again, recurring, circling, Arab. sense

* The Greeks seem to have mistaken dis, the second planet, for Dis, the God.


114 posted on 06/30/2008 12:50:59 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: wendy1946
Yes, sure that is what that is. Sure looks like a little red x to me. Maybe that “face” on Mars was their Mt. Rushmore! LOL!
115 posted on 06/30/2008 12:51:56 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: Soliton

A far deeper question for you would be if intelligent life was found and they had heard of a creator and a redeemer.


116 posted on 06/30/2008 12:57:07 PM PDT by 3090VMXA (The wise man gives up what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose!)
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To: Soliton
Perhaps that all-knowing God chose not to freak out His people talking of things a couple of millennium hence. Sheesh.

At least you capitalized it.

117 posted on 06/30/2008 1:02:09 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: RightWhale
Hey, RW, I was hoping the very recent discovery that water once flowed on Mars would kinda vindicate old Percival, seeing as he was a very distant relative and all. Maybe not "man-made" but flowing water could have carved channels.

Yeah, grasping at straws LOL

118 posted on 06/30/2008 1:06:34 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: NonValueAdded
At least you capitalized it.

I try to be respectful. I have been provoked, however. I believe that faith is good and science is good. I just don't like it when people deliberately lie to blur the line between the two.

119 posted on 06/30/2008 1:07:09 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Soliton
The Bible makes no mention of other planets or life on other planets.

Hnmmmmm...yes it does...

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1.

And lest someone say that is the sky...

And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." Genesis 1:6-8.

It then goes on to talk about the moon, the sun and the stars:

14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:14-18.
Last time I checked, the moon and the sun were planets. And there are two other references to "worlds" in the Bible.

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Hebrews 1:2

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Hebrews 11:3


120 posted on 06/30/2008 1:07:29 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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