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The Snubnose: The little gun that could…
www.policeone.com ^ | 06/09/2008 | Richard Fairburn

Posted on 06/09/2008 7:20:52 PM PDT by B4Ranch

The Snubnose: The little gun that could…

When I started out more than 90 percent of all police officers carried a revolver for a sidearm. No, they weren’t cap & ball muzzleloaders ... I’m not THAT old! As you can verify at any police firing range you choose, nowadays almost NOBODY carries a revolver anymore. With one exception ...

Most officers now pack the latest polymer-framed, computer-designed, indestructible, laser-guided wonder pistol in (insert your favorite) caliber that fires thermonuclear-tipped hollow-point projectiles at a muzzle velocity just shy of the speed of light. The real shootists scorn anything made of “plastic,”so they wouldn’t be caught dead without a hand-built 1911 pattern pistol that costs at least $2,000 (not counting magazines and other essential accoutrements).

But, the dirty little secret is - drum roll, please - when these same officers leave home for the quick trip to pick up a gallon of milk at the corner stop-n-rob, they likely as not drop a .38 snub nosed revolver in their pocket for the errand. Still more high-tech cops carry a lightweight snubbie in an ankle holster (or in a jacket pocket) as a back-up gun. And, they almost seem ashamed to admit they own a wheel gun.

The favorite snubnose revolver we see today is probably chambered for the old .38 Special cartridge, has a barrel about two inches long and probably holds five rounds. Some of the newer ones chamber the .357 Magnum round, but anyone who has fired them with magnum ammo generally end up loading the milder .38 loads.

Firing more than a few magnum rounds from a two inch revolver might singe your eyebrows off. I did a 50 round qual course with a snubbie firing 125 grain magnum hollow points one time on a dare. It was so much fun I sold the gun a few days later and bought a lighter .38 model. While they’re a bit big as “snubbies” go, Taurus even makes some that will interchangeably fire a .45 Colt cartridge or a 2.5 inch .410 shotgun shell - they call this one The Judge!

Colt quit building snubbies some time back, but Taurus imports a lot of short revolvers, Ruger makes a few models and Charter Arms is back in business with both .38's and their notorious Bulldog chambered for the big .44 Special round (aka - the Son of Sam Special). But, S&W is the one I see the most. And, despite our almost total change over to semi-auto duty pistols, S&W and the other makers are cranking out snubbies like there’s no tomorrow. They make the little revolvers from steel, aluminum, titanium and scandium (whatever that is). They have fixed sights, adjustable sights, night sights and laser sights. You can get ‘em in silver, black and even some really cool iridescent blue hues, with gold trim, on some Taurus titanium models. Whatever color they are, when it comes to the lowly snub nosed revolver, we still love ‘em, buy ‘em and carry ‘em.

One thing you need to consider when staking your life on a snub nosed revolver is their finicky appetite for ammunition. The short barrel means lower muzzle velocities, which often means erratic terminal performance from the bullets. Most of the mid-weight (125 grain to 135 grain) hollow point loads will do OK in the +P versions of .38 Special loadings. Speer ammunition has a 135 grain +P load that is specifically designed for revolvers with two inch barrels and it performs well in all categories of the FBI terminal performance testing protocol.

Not all .38 snubbies are rated for +P ammunition and the super lightweight models are generally not recommended for use with un-jacketed (plain lead) bullets since the projectiles can move forward from the case under severe recoil and prevent the cylinder from turning, making the revolver about as dangerous as a rock of equivalent weight. I really don’t recommend .357 Magnum ammunition in small frame revolvers, you gain very little in terminal performance at a great cost in recoil, muzzle blast and a blinding muzzle flash - shoot .38 +P ammo and call it good.

If you like a bigger bullet, try a Charter Bulldog, the Taurus Judge or one of the medium-frame snubbies from S&W that fire the .44 Special. Winchester, Speer and Federal all make lead or jacketed hollow point loads that should give good performance from a .44 Special snubbie.

One important aspect of snub gun ammunition is to have a reload handy when you’re packing one. Remember the off-duty Utah officer who engaged the active shooter in the Salt Lake City mall? He had a .45 auto and no spare ammo. It worked out for him in the end, but he said he’ll always carry a spare magazine from now on.

For backup use, a reload might be so critical, but if the snubbie is your only weapon, five or six rounds may not be enough. Speed loaders for a revolver are great for reloading, but bulky to carry in a pocket. Bianchi still makes it’s steel reinforced rubber Speed Strips that hold six rounds of .38/.357 ammo in-line and are handy to carry in a pocket. For other calibers ... figure something out for carrying another cylinder of ammo.

In terms of holsters, practical and concealable models abound for a small frame revolver. If you can adapt to the weight of an ankle holster, they can make for practical backup use on duty. These revolvers do not generally lend themselves to the old “tuck it in the waistband” technique for informal carry - they can slide down into your pants when you need ‘em the most. Although, an old timer who trained me carried a S&W .38 tucked in his waistband almost 24 hours a day. He kept the wood grips wrapped with several layers of rubber bands, replacing them as needed, and claimed it was as secure as in a holster. Still, a secure holster is the best option. But, when the night is cool, a jacket pocket is likely to be the most common “holster” and can do well enough, I suppose.

So, assuming you stay proficient by shooting it more than once a year for the off-duty qualification course, the snub nosed revolver is truly the little gun that could. It’s a trusty friend in your pocket off duty and a reliable backup on duty. It ain’t flashy or sexy or cutting edge. But, like any good partner, it’ll always be there to back you up when you need it most.

Dick Fairburn has had more than 26 years of law enforcement experience in both Illinois and Wyoming. He has worked patrol, investigations and administration assignments. Dick has also served as a Criminal Intelligence Analyst, and as the Section Chief of a major academy’s Firearms Training Unit and Critical Incident Training program. He has a B.S. in Law Enforcement Administration from Western Illinois University and was the Valedictorian of his recruit class at the Illinois State Police Academy. He has published hundreds of articles and a book titled, Police Rifles.



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If a snubnose .38 or .357 is good enough for our cities finest, you can bet one is good enough for me.
1 posted on 06/09/2008 7:20:53 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
While they’re a bit big as “snubbies” go, Taurus even makes some that will interchangeably fire a .45 Colt cartridge or a 2.5 inch .410 shotgun shell - they call this one The Judge!

Unavailable in California.

Dammit.

2 posted on 06/09/2008 7:25:23 PM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of the population and stupider by its cube.)
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To: B4Ranch

Right on! Nice and compact.


3 posted on 06/09/2008 7:27:11 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: B4Ranch

I already own one I just need to get a permit now that I live in the state of TX.......


4 posted on 06/09/2008 7:27:29 PM PDT by Kimmers (Taxation WITH representation ain't much fun either...)
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To: B4Ranch

I can see a couple serious advantages that revolvers have over autos. First, if for some reason it fails to fire, you can just pull the trigger a second time. Second, a revolving cylinder is much less likely to jam. That said, I carry a Glock.


5 posted on 06/09/2008 7:28:11 PM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: B4Ranch
If a snubnose .38 or .357 is good enough for our cities finest, you can bet one is good enough for me.

I guess I'm just a stubborn ol' die hard....

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One short and one long. ; )

6 posted on 06/09/2008 7:30:03 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: null and void

I have The Judge for home use and a Charter Arms .38 snubby for carry. Very happy with both. The snubby in an ankle holster.....perfect.


7 posted on 06/09/2008 7:31:34 PM PDT by chesty_puller (70-73 USMC VietNam 75-79 US Army Wash DC....VietNam was safer.)
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To: B4Ranch

my wife wants a LadySmith. Man they are expensive!


8 posted on 06/09/2008 7:33:55 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: trussell

Ping for gun porn! : )


9 posted on 06/09/2008 7:34:07 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: B4Ranch

Even crazy Son of Sam knew that .44 makes a bigger hole than a .36.

Yes, it is a .36 diameter bullet, in a .38 inch diameter case. The .44 shoots a .43 diameter bullet from a .44 inch diameter case. The .41 is an honest .41 inch diameter, the .45 Auto (or Auto Rim if you, like me, have a .45 Auto revolver and are tired of moon clips) is an honest .455, whle the .45 Colt is an honest .452 inch diameter.

Moon clips hold 6 rounds of .455 diameter hollow point goodness, and are faster than speed loaders. Special holders are used to keep the clip from bending in your pocket. If the bullets miss, the muzzle flash will likely set the goblin on fire. If resistance continues, the revolver makes a very efficient war hammer.


10 posted on 06/09/2008 7:35:32 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: Soliton

She’s the best friend you’ll ever have. Go ahead and buy her one. Maybe a used one that’s had a trigger job for a starter.


11 posted on 06/09/2008 7:36:47 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch
My dad has carried his Chief's Special for about forty years!

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12 posted on 06/09/2008 7:38:55 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: donmeaker

Just for the fun of it, fire your .44 inside a small room with no hearing protection. That’s they way things will be if you ever use it at 3:00 AM.

When you get used to your new hearing aids do the same with a .38 and see if you notice a difference.


13 posted on 06/09/2008 7:39:50 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch

bump


14 posted on 06/09/2008 7:40:01 PM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: B4Ranch

I’m 5’5 at 110lbs ... I carry a Beretta Tomcat in .32cal with Glaser Safeties in one magazine and the other has Hydra-shocks. I’m not to be messed with. I read where the average gun fight range was 8 to 12 feet (California Highway Patrol research) - at that range it doesn’t matter if you have 357 magnums or what I carry ... at least mine won’t go down the block and take out an innocent .....


15 posted on 06/09/2008 7:40:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: A.Hun

Buy him a set of Crimson Trace grips to show him you really do love the old guy.


16 posted on 06/09/2008 7:41:29 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: EGPWS
I'm up for renewal in August. I'm off to the local tomorrow night for some refresher classroom and the range test.

.With my S&W 642.


17 posted on 06/09/2008 7:41:38 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: B4Ranch

Great idea.....I never know what the h*ll to get him! Thanks!


18 posted on 06/09/2008 7:43:59 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: B4Ranch

We haven’t had enough gun p0rn around here (pictures or prose) for some reason lately. Snubbie BTTT.


19 posted on 06/09/2008 7:44:12 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: A.Hun
I like the small Ruger in 32 H&R mag. I can hit with it, the recoil is very manageable and it gets great penetration and good hollow point bullet expansion.
20 posted on 06/09/2008 7:44:28 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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