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I was listening to the Mark Levin show and at the top of the hour one of the main news stories was about a Youtube video that supposedly shows a Marine throwing a live puppy into a ravine while in Iraq.

I took a look at the video and it looks to me like the puppy is already dead.

Anyone else care to take a look and comment?

1 posted on 03/03/2008 8:41:41 PM PST by Doofer
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> Anyone else care to take a look and comment?

Like you, I’d guess the puppy was already dead.

I hope the superior officers for the guys in the video give them a good chewing out, tho’ — this video is not a good look even if it was intended as a “joke”. It actually says something rather sick and unpleasant about them.


2 posted on 03/03/2008 8:53:25 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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Not easy to tell on the video if dead or not.


3 posted on 03/03/2008 8:53:47 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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You Tube has already posted the Marines personal info on you tube so if he did such , even if the pup was dead, he’s got some issues. Personal or professional he’s gonna have some career issues.....Damn !


5 posted on 03/03/2008 9:01:14 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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I cant pull up the video...but if they were in my unit and I caught them....tha gunny would be knee deep in some a$$.
I certainly am no peta member, but do love my dogs and also think there are more valuable things to be doing.........
like digging a hole 6’x6’x6’ to bury it if it were dead ala
The D.I. for all you old school movie fans.
6 posted on 03/03/2008 9:03:38 PM PST by USMCGunnut (Be cordial, be friendly....but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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At best if it was a fake it still gives a stupid black eye to the Marines, fa ly or unfairly.

At worst if the puppy was alive then this guy is a piece of crap and I hope he gets a dishonerable discharge. Hasn’t he learned from Michael Vick that people in this country love dogs?


10 posted on 03/03/2008 10:55:05 PM PST by Nate505
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The puppy didn’t look dead to me. What was making the squealing sound?


11 posted on 03/04/2008 12:08:13 AM PST by beaversmom
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Fake video, IMO


12 posted on 03/04/2008 12:08:29 AM PST by indcons (Barack <strike>Hussein</strike> Obama is a terrorist enabler.)
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One time (c. 1984) at Twenty-Nine Palms a Marine in my battalion stumbled across a sidewinder and decided he would get the gas can from the jeep and set the snake on fire. Instead the chucklehead ended up setting himself on fire and had to be med-evac’d out. The guy wasn’t seriously hurt or anything and I always thought he got what he deserved. The snake got away.


15 posted on 03/04/2008 12:20:28 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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I took a look at the video and it looks to me like the puppy is already dead.

You must be hard of hearing, the puppy was frighten and was whimpering!

God help us because reading headlines day after day humanity is going down hill quickly!

And if the puppy was dead which it was not that is no way to treat anything that is dead.

All things of the Lord will be saved.

18 posted on 03/04/2008 12:40:15 AM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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Well, I’m hoping that video is a fake, but it looks real and alive to me. That would be a truly despicable act.


21 posted on 03/04/2008 12:59:08 AM PST by Azzurri
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The sound of the yelping just sounds too fake to me and if you watch the puppy tumbling in seems to disappear as it is going downwards.

Also it looks like a 3rd person is supporting the animal as the first soldier cocks his arm back.

22 posted on 03/04/2008 1:01:29 AM PST by LukeL
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ubFeESQbU
U.S. soldiers torturing an injured dog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj32twJXxsY

More of shooting harmless dogs


24 posted on 03/04/2008 1:08:19 AM PST by Senator Pardek
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The puppy’s paws are tied with rope, unfortunately.


37 posted on 03/04/2008 3:14:44 AM PST by VioletBlueMoon
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I believe the dog was dead (it looks dead, it’s not moving at all, and there’s a telltale limp jiggle just before he throws it, also the other guy goes to “pet” the dog but stops short of touching it). Even so, it’s a really stupid and rather disgusting joke, especially since everyone’s always looking for stuff to criticize our soldiers over.


40 posted on 03/04/2008 3:22:13 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us nature wallpapers)
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FAKE...at the end of the video he says ‘he was already dead’...but they cut off the word “DEAD”...

FAKE


47 posted on 03/04/2008 4:08:54 AM PST by GRRRRR (2008- A Year That Will Live in Infamy...)
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I haven’t even seen the video but I can see from a quick read of the thread that many here have an agenda and this thread is serving a purpose.


54 posted on 03/04/2008 5:00:16 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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Posted on 02/22/2008 3:10:37 PM PST by traumer

DOG SAVED IN IRAQ

SAN DIEGO - It began with a simple act of kindness to save an abused, injured dog from becoming one more victim in the Iraq war.

But what followed for Marine Maj. Brian Dennis and the mutt was a tale of friendship and loyalty that spanned miles and overcame long odds — one set to take a turn Friday with the anticipated arrival here of the Marine’s best friend.

“This dog who had been through a lifetime of fighting, war, abuse ... is going to live the good life,” Dennis told his family in an e-mail from Iraq.

The tale unfolded in October, a few months after Dennis deployed to Iraq from San Diego to work as part of the military team building infrastructure along the Syria-Iraq border and training Iraqi forces to take over.

Dennis, 36, of St. Pete Beach, Fla., had volunteered for the assignment. It was a departure from his role as a fighter pilot. He had seen the country from the air, but it was different on the ground.

Dennis wrote stories home about the reciprocal relationship that desert dogs, strays wandering outside border towns, had with Iraqis.

“The dogs get to eat the Iraqi scraps and have a home in the middle of the desert,” he wrote in an e-mail. “The Iraqis get an incredible early warning system; these dogs hear anything approaching from miles away and go nuts and scramble to defend their territory.”

While on patrol in the Anbar province, Dennis spotted what appeared to be a gray and white, male German shepherd-border collie mix. He named the dog Nubs after learning someone cut the ears off believing it would make the dog more aggressive and alert.

Within weeks, Nubs was greeting Dennis during routine patrol stops along border communities. The Marines fed him bits of their food and by November, the Marine and his unit were keeping an eye out for the dog, which routinely chased their Humvees when they departed.

Life on the run, however, was taking a toll on the dog. He had lost a tooth and been bitten in the neck. In late December, Dennis found Nubs near death in freezing temperatures. The dog had been stabbed with a screwdriver.

Dennis rubbed antibiotic creme on the wound and slept with Nubs to keep him warm.

“I really expected when I woke up for watch he would be dead,” Dennis wrote. “Somehow he made it through the night.”

Dennis thought he had seen the last of the dog days later when his squad headed back to its command post some 65 miles away. He couldn’t take the dog with him and watched as it tried to follow the Humvees away from the border.

Two days later, while Dennis and a comrade were working on a Humvee, he looked up and saw the dog staring at him.

“Somehow that crazy damned dog tracked us,” he wrote Jan. 9.

But the reunion was short lived. Military policy prohibits having pets in war zones, and Dennis was given four days to get the dog off the base or kill him.

The decision was easy: Nubs was going to San Diego. The logistics, though, were anything but easy.

With help from his Iraqi interpreter, Dennis managed to find a Jordanian veterinarian to get the care and paperwork needed to get the dog to the states. He also negotiated the red tape to get Nubs across the border into Jordan.

His family and close friends helped raise the $3,500 needed to get the dog from Amman, Jordan, to San Diego, said his mother, Marsha Cargo.

“I just can’t believe it. Out there in the middle of nowhere these two find each other,” Cargo said.

A colleague in San Diego agreed to care for the dog and have it trained until Dennis returns in March from Iraq.

“We anticipate a real steep learning curve for Nubs,” Capt. Eric Sjoberg said. “We want him to learn to just be a dog.”

For now, though, Dennis will settle for the knowledge that Nubs is finally safe — and waiting for his master to follow him.

58 posted on 03/04/2008 5:31:18 AM PST by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
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Here’s a link to the story on Fox.com

Marines: Puppy Abuse YouTube Video ‘Deplorable,’ Investigation Launched
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334709,00.html


61 posted on 03/04/2008 6:28:59 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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The Marines have tracked this to a guy now stationed in Hawaii and are investigating. I’m waiting to see what they find.


72 posted on 03/04/2008 4:27:05 PM PST by colorado tanker
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Anyone else care to take a look and comment?

Not really.   Is there a compelling reason that we should? Was it posted by a witless lib just attempting broadly paint our military as baby killers and puppy throwers??

We all know "The Great One" had a deep love for his dog so I wonder if someone might attempt to mess with his wide open feelings.

76 posted on 03/04/2008 5:42:03 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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