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The Hobbit Hole XXXV - ...is Water Hot that smokes and steams.

Posted on 01/03/2008 6:35:58 PM PST by HairOfTheDog

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Sing hey! for the bath at close of day
That washes the weary mud away!
A loon is he that will not sing:
O! Water Hot is anoble thing!

O! Sweet is the sound of falling rain.
and the brook that leaps from hill to plain;
but better than rain or rippling streams
is Water Hot that smokes and steams.

O! Water cold we may pour at need
down a thirsty throat and be glad indeed;
but better is Beer, if drink we lack,
and Water Hot poured down the back.

O! Water is fair that leaps on high
in a fountain white beneath the sky;
but never did fountain sound so sweet
as splashing Hot Water with my feet!

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To: JenB

You can imagine how the conversations go if homeschooling ever comes up. I just...don’t join in.

Political stuff is much the same story. Oh well.


1,361 posted on 01/18/2008 11:19:42 AM PST by RosieCotton (A place for everything and everything in its place - 2008 Resolution #1)
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To: RosieCotton

There’s this one guy, great friend of ours from anime convention. He’s my age and he’s very odd. The sort of guy who loudly proclaims his hatred and contempt of 99% of people on the planet. He’s told us on several occasions that he literally hated everyone in his small town high school because he was a geek and an outcast.

But he’s also said that homeschooling is bad, that it mostly produces failures (always says “you guys excepted”). I like pointing out to him how he’s the one who seems to be suffering in the socialization department.

Seriously, he’s a great guy but a little liberal and stuff. One of those guys who hasn’t finished maturing yet.


1,362 posted on 01/18/2008 11:25:45 AM PST by JenB
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To: JenB

What’s his DUmmy name? lol


1,363 posted on 01/18/2008 12:35:29 PM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: RosieCotton; JenB

Luke didn’t go to daycare until he was 2 or 3 (the years run together). And even then it was only part time when Mrs. was teaching.

Six-month-old infants don’t need “socialization.” They need to be loved, fed, and pooped. In that order. And Mommy and Daddy are the best ones to do that.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is just ignorant. Daycare is a necessary evil for some people, and I’ll defend it as such. But anyone who tells you it’s “for the benefit of the child” is a moron.


1,364 posted on 01/18/2008 12:39:34 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (**insert witty tagline here**)
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To: darkangel82

This friend is a nice person. I’d bet he posts on DailyKos but I know a number of fairly decent folks who do, so...


1,365 posted on 01/18/2008 12:42:45 PM PST by JenB
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To: Corin Stormhands

One of ‘em was claiming he felt bad when his kid was playing with another boy from a stay-at-home-mother sort of place, because the other kid just didn’t know how to interact with others.

They’re talking about four year olds.

Really bizarre. And it’s come up before, so this is apparently something that’s felt strongly about.

Like I said, I just keep my mouth shut. About that and many other topics.


1,366 posted on 01/18/2008 12:42:50 PM PST by RosieCotton (A place for everything and everything in its place - 2008 Resolution #1)
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To: RosieCotton

I now have an appointment with an allergist in the next town, in two weeks, who will supposedly try to diagnose me. Yay! Let’s hope that works.


1,367 posted on 01/18/2008 12:43:40 PM PST by JenB
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To: Corin Stormhands

The main discussion was about how one guy’s youngest has a sitter who comes to their house, but soon they really need to get him into daycare for the socialization. And that baby’s literally seven months.


1,368 posted on 01/18/2008 12:44:48 PM PST by RosieCotton (A place for everything and everything in its place - 2008 Resolution #1)
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To: JenB

Well, good!

Do you have to get pricked? :-\ Is that still the main way they test allergies?


1,369 posted on 01/18/2008 12:45:29 PM PST by RosieCotton (A place for everything and everything in its place - 2008 Resolution #1)
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To: RosieCotton
One of ‘em was claiming he felt bad when his kid was playing with another boy from a stay-at-home-mother sort of place, because the other kid just didn’t know how to interact with others.

Oh like there are never any reclusive kids in daycare.

Don't even get me started about the kids that like to bite...

1,370 posted on 01/18/2008 12:48:08 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (**insert witty tagline here**)
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To: g'nad

So glad to hear that part is over!! Prayers continue for full healing!


1,371 posted on 01/18/2008 12:48:41 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: RosieCotton

You know we were young(ish) urban professionals in DC when Jr. was coming along. Mrs. at that point had the better and more secure job. We started looking for a place to live that was a bit larger and had a washer/dryer in the apartment. We did the math and were only going to come out about $200 per month “ahead” by doing that.

Then Mrs. read in a parenting magazine that “you want to take your kids to daycare by about three months, otherwise they’ll start to bond with you.” Excuse me?

That’s when we made the decision that she would stay home. And, with the exception of 8 months working for the Governor, she hasn’t had a full time job since.


1,372 posted on 01/18/2008 12:51:25 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (**insert witty tagline here**)
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To: RosieCotton
*snort* Yeah, being around no one but other crumb crunchers really socializes someone well.

If they don't have adults who love them unconditionally nearby, from whom they can pattern behavior, language and self-control, they will NEVER mature. Drop that on the goobers in your office.

1,373 posted on 01/18/2008 12:52:13 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Corin Stormhands
Got me a four-day weekend.

Here too... well, 3-and-a-half day weekend here, since I went to work this morning.


1,374 posted on 01/18/2008 12:53:59 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (Fred or NOTA)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Yeah...it really bothers me when “those people” are lumped together, whoever they might be. Admittedly, a lot of homeschoolers do it to public school kids, too. That’s not right, either. The reality is that people are individuals, with individual personalities and faults and foibles.

I’m kind of socially awkward. I know this. But you know what? I went to public school for awhile before I was homeschooled, and I was one of the kids that played quietly with one or two others in a corner rather than one of the louder kids that usually had a group of followers. Homeschooling didn’t make me the way I am. But put me next to my most outgoing brother who will talk to anyone about anything and who *is* usually the center of a group, and they’ll say he “overcame” being homeschooled, and I didn’t. As if we couldn’t possibly naturally have different personalities.

A lot of people see what they want to see. Especially when to see anything else bothers their conscience a bit.

OK, so that rant didn’t really have much to do with anything...


1,375 posted on 01/18/2008 12:55:24 PM PST by RosieCotton (A place for everything and everything in its place - 2008 Resolution #1)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

*snort*

That could almost be Jr. and Abby. She’s a stand-offish cat, but he can get her to follow him around.


1,376 posted on 01/18/2008 12:55:34 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (**insert witty tagline here**)
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To: RosieCotton
One of ‘em was claiming he felt bad when his kid was playing with another boy from a stay-at-home-mother sort of place, because the other kid just didn’t know how to interact with others.

Most kids that age are more into parallel play, not necessarily interactive play. But then, some kids just don't like to fool with other kids because they've had to deal with little bullies, and they don't want to repeat the experience.

1,377 posted on 01/18/2008 12:55:47 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: RosieCotton

No clue. I think for fragrances it’s a contact patch test but I’m not sure.

There was a thread on FR a day or so ago that had a debate about staying home/daycare. Some of the knee jerk “how dare you say stay at home moms are better for kids/you can’t do that and have a house” posters were interesting. Especially when you had other posters talking about the sacrifices necessary to make it work on one salary and you realize that most of those “we both have to work” people are - well, deluding themselves.


1,378 posted on 01/18/2008 12:56:40 PM PST by JenB
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To: Corin Stormhands
Then Mrs. read in a parenting magazine that “you want to take your kids to daycare by about three months, otherwise they’ll start to bond with you.” Excuse me?

Uh...yeah...and that's...bad?

1,379 posted on 01/18/2008 12:56:43 PM PST by RosieCotton (A place for everything and everything in its place - 2008 Resolution #1)
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To: JenB

Especially when you factor in the costs!

Honestly, though, you hear stuff about how kids that weren’t in daycare can’t handle school. It’s the whole “homeschooled kids can’t adapt to college” garbage taken to a new level. Institutionalization from birth is the ultimate good, apparently.


1,380 posted on 01/18/2008 1:02:26 PM PST by RosieCotton (A place for everything and everything in its place - 2008 Resolution #1)
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