that is rather a cultural and personal view. Show a dog to a Vietnamese and he'll likely be thinking this. 
Posted on 12/10/2007 7:46:54 AM PST by thefactor
Vick given a 23 month sentence. Plus 3 years of probation. Breaking.
I can't help it if I'm smarter than you are (although this isn't much of an accomplishment)
i hope it extends to the unborn as well.
you are becoming silly. Michael Vick was not sentenced for eating chicken or fish.
He tortured dogs. There is a big difference.
I take great care to choose a dog, I make sure I have a place that is secure and safe for the dog. I take time to make that pup a part of our lives and ensure s/he’s secure from others outside our family. Folks that give or get a pup for christmas need too look at their home, their yard and their families life style before they buy a pup .
We have a new rott pup this year.........Named her Rolex !
She’s gonna be my new Watch Dog !
They would. But if he ran an interstate network of bookmakers, nobody would be upset about the feds getting involved.
The fact that animals were brutally mistreated certainly ups the propaganda value for the feds.
I can’t argue with the sentece==it’s just fine-—but my original idea was to let him play, and the first time ANY of his game stats fell below his current average, he should be shot, or electrocuted, or otherwise tortured, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID TO THE DOGS, AND WHY HE DID IT.
I'm guessing his prison career will start out as a tight end, but he'll end up as a wide receiver.
you are correct. i had forgot he plead guilty.
Dogs and horses occupy a special niche in their symbiosis with humans, and have played integral roles in the development and expansion of civilization. They have assisted in our agrarian endeavors, played critical roles in commerce, the transportation and protection of our goods and homesteads. They have accompanied us to war, and aided in the exploration of uncharted territories. Although wanton cruelty to any animal is wrong, cruelty to a dog or horse is especially repulsive as they have an inextricable link to who and what we are today.
You've lost sight of my original post which was although he made a plea deal with the government the government didn't honor it, and that anyone who trusts the government is a fool. I never said that he wasn't guilty or that he should not have been punished. (If only for being so stupid as to think he could get away with something like that when he's a public figure)
Well, I love dogs and would defend my dogs by most any means necessary. That said, this is insane. Two years for dog fighting? Just seems a bit excessive for something like this, especially when the perp has cooperated so much.
Actually, Vick was treated to an increased sentence because he lied to the judge and prosecutors after he took the deal.
Just making sure that little fact doesn't get lost....
Give the guy some respect. Sure, there are some few guys who deserve such treatment, but that sort of talk about Vick is just pitiful and demeans you.
that is rather a cultural and personal view. Show a dog to a Vietnamese and he'll likely be thinking this.
It’s not two years just for dogfighting. It’s two years for bankrolling an interstate gambling ring that included dogfighting. As for his cooperating according to one of the upthread posters Vick failed a lie detector on the information he gave to the feds, and let’s not forget the failed drug test.
You've lost sight of my original post which was although he made a plea deal with the government the government didn't honor it, and that anyone who trusts the government is a fool.
While I agree with the second half of that sentence, the first is simply not true.
He made a deal with prosecutors to tell the truth and admit his crimes, and in exchange the prosecution agreed to recommend a certain sentence. They did not promise him any specific sentence, as that is not in their power to do so. Every report I've read has said that - the prosecutors can recommend something and the judge has the power to accept the recommendation and follow it or discard it.
Vick got exactly what was promised to him - a slightly more favorable roll of the dice.
Well, what can I say...I'm a cultural chauvinist. There's really nothing about Michael Vick's lifestyle or Vietnamese society that has me willing to abandon my beliefs in order to embrace diversity.
Michael Vick is the one who chose to engage in behavior more base and vile than the animals he kept. I'm merely giving him the level of respect he engendered for himself.
Just curious, but what do you think the "appropriate" sentence for Vick should have been?
The score of this Football game...
ANIMALS RIGHTS LEFTISTS: 7
LOGIC & REASON: 0
Horrible analogy. If this is the best you got, then I'm an animal rights leftist.
IMO, there's no need for dogfighting, cockfighting or anything of the sort. It's barbaric and inhumane. Vick got what he deserved and his actions are going to set a precedence for this kind of animal cruelty.
I found this picture on another site and the poster said they cut of the ears of the dogs so they have less to hold on to in a fight.
This dog was saved. Mutilated but saved nonetheless.
There's one like you on every animal cruelty thread.
Yawn.
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