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So good to see that the numbers are bad. Usually, these days a film does well in its first two weeks or so, and then the box office take starts dipping drastically. Maybe God is blessing us and this movie is dying fast. New Line won't make the sequels if this doesn't even make its budget back.
1 posted on 12/08/2007 11:24:05 PM PST by DesScorp
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Maybe God is blessing us and this movie is dying fast.

Saw a advertisement for it last evening. Looked like something I might want to go see.

Why do you believe I shouldn't?

2 posted on 12/08/2007 11:30:11 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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We are definitely passing on an atheist author and atheistic messages - no matter how subtle. This guy thrives on the “god is dead” theme in his books. We prefer Christian movies like Narnia.


3 posted on 12/08/2007 11:41:54 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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#1 ditto!


4 posted on 12/08/2007 11:42:34 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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Hollyweird just doesn’t get it. They think we want to see what they want us to see. The truth is, we want to see what we want to see and they have put the viewers out of the theaters. Too bad for them. Great for us. We save our money.


7 posted on 12/08/2007 11:45:41 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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"It's below expectations, but it's not an out-and-out debacle," said Dergarabedian.

A reasonable opening would have been $60M. They set expectations at $30M, because they knew they were in trouble. But they ended up not even making that. It's a debacle.

10 posted on 12/08/2007 11:53:15 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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New Line Cinema's $180 million film

Until Hollywood can figure out how to make a movie without spending an obscene amount of money, it will continue to languish.

I read an article last year about Spider Man 3. Sam Raimi, the director, wanted to digitally adjust the lighting on a 5 second piece of film. It would cost $5,000.

Aliens cost approx. $18.5 million to make in 1986. The special effects were AMAZING (and convincing) and still look great 21 years later. Can anybody watch Aliens and think that those monsters looked fake? Did the queen Alien look fake? Heck no. But just watch a "blockbuster" movie these days with the incredibly expensive CGI effects (Star Wars prequels, Golden Compass, etc). They look like an overblown cartoon.

15 posted on 12/09/2007 12:57:17 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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The movie was made for the express purpose of trashing Christianity. The public saw through it. The producers are denying it. What else is new?


30 posted on 12/09/2007 3:06:48 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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What are the odds that the execs at New Line knew nothing about the author’s agenda in his books?

Zilch.

Screw ‘em. Hope this thing tanks.


31 posted on 12/09/2007 3:07:48 AM PST by RightOnline
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Hopefully, this movie tanks, and plans for sequel movies (for the other books) are scuppered.

Contrary to other freepers on related threads, of the opinion that generally adults are weak, easily manipulated by media. And if adults are weak, then children are puny. They are not resilient.

This film seems to just be another cooking-a-frog scenario. If they come flat-out anti-Christian, they will face a backlash, especially in the United States. However, if they move gradually in small increments (and especially if they target generally malleable children--just look at the indoctrination of children while in their 'dinosaur phase:' "Dinosaurs lived with humans a few thousand years ago? Idiot Creationists, sane people would state that dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago, and lived for millions of years before that." Why? Because.) so that the populace can become acclimated to more and more anti-'religion,' and soon flat out Atheismization* can commence.

Personally of the view that there can be many Atheists in the United States who can contribute to American society. However, they should not become numerous or powerful enough that they can completely remove the Christian influence from the culture. Although many of them probably do not intend it at all, a purely Atheism-based society will cause a degeneration of the nation--common sense dictates it; there is too much that is relative in Atheist 'ethics', with too little basis for absolute good and evil--it isn't Christian fundamentalist rhetoric. Although it might be from good intentions, Atheism should not be permitted to attain that critical mass, that tipping point which will lead to a society with a extraordinarily weak moral foundation and grounding.


*Hey, they made Americanization, Vietnamization, Islamization, words, so why not Atheismization?
40 posted on 12/09/2007 3:39:35 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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Praise God! I haven’t been in a movie theatre in 21 years!


49 posted on 12/09/2007 5:09:52 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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Yes, this is great news. Hollywood, the leftist propaganda machine it is, continues to make leftist trash that fails at the box office.


50 posted on 12/09/2007 5:22:42 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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I was driving past the big multiplex in my area yesterday, which is playing The Golden Compass on three screens. At about 7:00 at night, the parking lot was 3/4 empty. Normally you have to park across the access way and hoof it on the weekend, but yesterday there was available parking in the spaces right by the door.

This movie was everybody's anchor this weekend. Based on my personal observations, this anchor is dragging them to the bottom, fast.

I would expect theaters to bail on this movie fast. They can't afford to have a stinker taking up their screen space during the critical Christmas holidays.

52 posted on 12/09/2007 5:35:17 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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I am particularly disgusted by the way the makers are hiding the fact that the last episode ends with the death of god. This author is a hate munger when it comes to the Christian faith. People of the Christian faith are the only people who can safely be ridiculed. They would never do such a thing against Islam, cowardice at its worse.


53 posted on 12/09/2007 5:39:56 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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Conspiring against the movie, he said, were such factors as a soft marketplace and unrealistic expectations for an epic fantasy filling the holiday void left by the "Narnia" and "Lord of the Rings" smashes.

It's not the film's fault. It's the soft marketplace (whatever that means) and the void left by films who, through no fault of their own, did much better. It wasn't the acting, the underlying premises, the directing, or the underlying premises. It was the soft marketplace and the void - will ruin a film every time.
57 posted on 12/09/2007 5:50:52 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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Based on previews and the choices available, I took my 16year old son to see the movie yesterday. I wasn’t aware of the author’s positions and possible motives, and that may have influenced me had I known.

I saw a fantasy movie about another world with some very good special effects and several well known actors. It looked like a poorly written knock off of other “fantasy epic” flicks with an interesting, albeit confusing premise.

Nicole Kidman plays a character that is just a modified version of the Ice Queen in Narnia. The Armored Bear is a polar bear that reminded me of the lion in the same movie. The odd collection of different clans and species with different skills mimicked the hobbits, elves, dwarves, and fairies of LOTR.

The movie assumes there is a connectedness between this and other universes, and the source of the connection is “dust.” The compass is a source that can relate truth to the user. If the story is about atheism, it certainly is chocked full of mysticism that atheism would certainly have trouble explaining.

I certainly didn’t see anything that offended my views on religion. It was a somewhat entertaining movie, but I kept thinking it was almost just a parody of previous movies.


64 posted on 12/09/2007 6:48:02 AM PST by TN4Liberty (A liberal is someone who believes Scooter Libby should be in jail and Bill Clinton should not.)
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I saw the movie last night - it makes as much sense as talking polar bears.

The religious angle of this is confusing, as the bad guys are better suited to be big government liberals than religious theologists. They control the education system, like big government. They control the dissemenation of information, like big-government liberals.

There is a Nurse Cratchett within a cukoo’s nest of children who are watched over by government-empowered scientists. They have the children after taking them from their parents, of course, when they are not being raised properly. What church does that? GOVERNMENT! Strangely, they are not killing the unborn, which would be a “dead” giveaway.

The organized military represents the big-government bad guys, but it is defeated by a MILITIA and some attractive flying witches who do not use poisoned apples or brooms, but arrows and supernatural flight powers. If they wore white, they would appear to be angels.

Nichole Kidman was the younger Hillary Clinton. She poses herself as nice, knowledgable and altruistic. But she is a power mad woman who cares little for anyone who gets in her way. She uses government intelligence to get information then its powers to help defeat those who may oppose her.

The heroine is the prophesized solution to the problems caused by the empowered. Phophecy = religion?

If there were any anti-religious part of this movie, it was too weak to materialize, as it was cloaked in confusing contradictions.

The cute portrayal of animals was Ewok-ish. Were they connected to the idea of guardian angels?

In the end, this movie is BORING and stupid. Some people applauded at the movie’s end; I nearly did for reasons of relief. The nuclear powered airships and carriages were cool. But the word “cool” brings up one redeeming thought: All the frigid lands prove again that Al Gore is wrong.


66 posted on 12/09/2007 7:21:12 AM PST by Loud Mime (The Democrats made people believe that govt. lawyers are victims, whatta country!)
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"It's below expectations, but it's not an out-and-out debacle," said Dergarabedian.

Baghdad Bob found a job!

68 posted on 12/09/2007 7:32:15 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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