Posted on 11/25/2007 9:23:45 AM PST by Fennie
In 1984 a book was published with the title New Lies For Old. It was written by Soviet KGB defector Anatoly Golitsyn. The book claimed that the Soviet Union had a secret long-term strategy to disarm and defeat the United States through a controlled collapse of the Soviet empire that would take place in the last decade of the twentieth century. In the book's most remarkable chapter, titled "The Final Phase," Golitsyn accurately described the future of the Soviet bloc. Communism would give up its monopoly of power in Russia, he explained, as apparent freedom and democracy would be introduced. The communist Warsaw Pact alliance would be dissolved. The Berlin Wall might be taken down and Germany united as "the key to progress toward a neutral, socialist Europe"...
If one were going to write an alternative USSR history I would base it on oil prices. So many commodity prices from nickle to zinc to copper follow oil. And this is much of Russia’s wealth.
In 1980 oil was $37 a barrel ($94 adjusted for inflation).
By it dropped to $14 ($27 adjusted) and with revenue by 2/3 the Soviet Union collapsed.
When President Bush43 was elected oil was $27 ($33 adjusted)
Now oil is $100 a barrel and Russia is strong again.
Sadly, something we may have to do - go to war with Iran will strengthen Russia even more.
The Art of War (Sun Tzu):
Therefore One hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the most skillful. Seizing the enemy without fighting is the most skillful.It's freedom versus tyranny. Tyranny comes in several flavors, including Communist Russia and China, Islamo-Fascism, and the Leftist Liberals that infiltrate most of our schools, governments, media, international organizations (U.N., World Bank, ...) and special interest groups (labor, environmentalists, feminists, civil rights, ...). They share a common enemy - us.
The power of Russia is rising again, as raw materials such as oil and minerals, as well as the weapons of war, rise in value. And that power clearly remains on the side of tyranny.
China already holds a big chunk of our Treasury Notes.
The Islamo-Fascists hold much of our oil supply, receiving trillions of dollars from us for it, which they use to fund Islamic tyranny on every country in the world. With their allies in the environmental movement, the Russians and Islamo-Fascists have insured that we don't drill for much oil in free lands.
Yes - Iraq is in part about oil. Not about us stealing the oil, but about us keeping the forces of tyranny from stealing it. And it is about fighting Islamo-Fascists there instead of here, and about surrounding and containing Iran, so that they neither wipe out Israel, nor invade and conquer Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, the key source of the oil that is the essential fuel of our economic engine.
But our biggest battle is right here at home, with the Left. The Left won two Presidential elections by supporting Perot as a third party candidate, and they are well along toward winning two more by supporting RINO's such as McCain, and when he fell behind, Giuliani, who will dampen the enthusiasm of the conservative base, which is critical to holding majorities in the House and Senate, as well as gaining the White House.
If we loose further ground to the Left here at home, then we cannot stand up to the forces of tyranny abroad. If we grow stronger at home, including gaining greater energy independence (that means domestic drilling, coal and nuclear, not windmills or solar panels or destroying our industrial base) then none can defeat us abroad.
I don't even nec. doubt that such a "plan" could have existed in the minds of this or that delusional Soviet. That doesn't mean that (a) everything that has happened since has gone according to such a "plan" or that (b) some sort of resurgence is inevitable because that's what the "plan" says.
Was Chernobyl part of the "plan"? the devaluation of the ruble? the pyramid schemes and kleptocracy of the 1990s? rejection of Russia-linked leaders in former Soviet state after former Soviet state (cf. Yuschenko, Ukraine)? all part of the "plan"?
Heck, let's even stipulate that that it was - that all of that is part of the "plan". My conclusion: terrible, terrible "plan".
Let's remember, these are people who had plenty of "plans" over the course of 70 years. None of them worked out all that well; why would we give them unwarranted credit for the ability to craft "plans", or imbue those "plans" with any sort of genius or momentum?
I never thought twice about that, until Putin woke the bear from hibernation.
Putin "woke" nothing, he just makes more noises, so what. Russia is a sad, backwards mafia state and getting more so. The only thing the USSR really had going for it was that it was seen as the vanguard of an ideology that appealed to romantics and intellectuals. But that ideology has been thoroughly eviscerated and now all Russia really has is oil money and the ruthless men who sit on it. Russia's greatest minds come to the west and get rich in computers or Wall Street. (another part of the "plan"?) Those left behind either have no sense of national pride (the state religion having been discredited) or, in some cases, lapse into an ugly variation of skinheadism. Meanwhile the birthrate is deflating, the "state" has devolved & is somewhat of a fiction (Moscow functions as a sort of superstate-within-the-state). The armed forces rely on conscripts for crying out loud (those who can't bribe or college their way out of it).
This may be enough to convert Russia into something akin to Saudi Arabia but that is a far cry from USSR at its peak.
That's bizarre because usually in lefty talking-points, Charlie Wilson's actions vis a vis Afghanistan are cited as Exhibit A for how 9/11 was "blowback" and we "created" Osama bin Laden. I guess consistency takes a back seat when you're a lefty and trying to sell a movie.
There was nothing amazing about predicting the collapse of the USSR in the '80s, unless you were in academics or the CIA. Do you forget that Ronald Reagan himself had predicted it long, long before that? :)
So at some point, Poland and the Czech Republic and Hungary and East Germany and Lithuania and (etc) will all fall back behind the Curtain? I wonder what they'd have to say about that.
Tyranny is part of human nature. So I don't know if we "defeated" the "forces of tyranny".
We sure as hell, however, defeated the USSR.
I'm starting to think that many of us in the West have forgotten what it means to defeat someone in warfare (cold or otherwise). All the discussions of the Iraq war the past few years are another symptom of this. Someone bombs a market somewhere and we decide it means we "lost" the Iraq war. Bizarre.
Apparently we've become so good at winning wars that we've started to think that the purpose of all wars we get into is to "defeat the forces of tyranny" once and for all (as if that were possible).
Inaccurate in who’s opinion, based on what facts?
I used to have this book, and the author was quoting it accurately
In it, he predicted the collapse of the BGerlin Wall and the handover of former soviet bloc nations to an expanded NATO
Not a joke, the guy wrote it when Reagan was still in office for his first term
Thanks for keeping us on the straight and narrow. While we keep conjuring conspiracies mounted against us, we have created the greatest conspiracy of all time, as Ronald the Magnificent reminded us. It is called individual liberty and free market capitalism. It is simply amazing how many people are willing to sign on to this scam, from Texans to Indians. Even some former KGB members have signed up to it. The beauty of this conspiracy is that it is out their in public where everyone can see it.
I'll go further to say that the rebirth of Russia as a major power will include all Europe a rebirth of the Roman Empire already in the making. A charismatic leader will arise in Europe and unite these nations into one government. This will include alliances with China and Arabic nations.
Actually they have just reorganized things a bit. Those countries have now voluntarily joined the European Soviet region of the global worker's paradise. America is sliding quickly into the American Soviet (NAFTA/CAFTA = American Union). There is an African Union now, and the Asian counterpart is well underway as well. The UN Charter was modelled on the Soviet Constitution and is rapidly becoming the world government.
Evidence that our fearless leaders are all working together can be found in the global warming/carbon dioxide scam which has been endorsed by the leaders of all of the major countries, even though it is such an obvious hoax. This along with the Law of the Sea Treaty will give the UN taxing authority and independent sources of income.
It is a win/win for all. Socialists get their paradise while the Rockefeller/Rothschilds of the world will own the global central banks and be the true rulers/owners behind the scenes.
“Get ready for the exciting sequel “The Collapse of the Republican Party Was Staged”.’
Don’t mock it. Communism never died. They just took the “hold territory using military force” option off the table.
Most Russian industry is run by former communists, the government is run by former communists the infrastructure is run by former communists and what isn’t run by communists is run by the Russian mafia. Even the oil industry and the media are run by communists.
And with no 100 billion a year in support of the military, that money is going someplace.
Who knows what the truth is?
Golitsyn also said that Prime Minister Harold Wilson in the UK and Prime Minister Lester Pearson in Canada were KGB.
To construe such facts about globalism as false . . .
that
construction on reality
is itself, more false!
Gobalism is real. Communistic, socialist, tyrannical, satanic. It is real. It has been advancing steadily as long as I’ve studied it—since 1965.
It was evidently quite tenaciously advancing long before that—some say 400 years.
In any case . . . we now have a world economic system with the Biblical Mark of The Beast computer chip implant looming larger and larger. Was it the Dolphins football game recently where the DIGITAL ANGEL or whatever they are called with the main push for the ID CHIP IMPLANT had a big van there and lots of advertising—one could sign up and get chipped right there at the football game.
What do you think Shrillery’s goals are?
Who do you think is behind Shrillery and Rudy?
Who has been destroying our Constitution for decades?
Who has been destroying the family life of Western Civ for decades?
Who is so eager to Federally indoctrinate and consume children from near birth through University and beyond?
Who has been attacking authentic Christianity increasingly for decades?
Who is so fully behind Planned Parenthood and the ACLU?
Who is so fully behind infanticide/abortion? Have yoau researched
THE GEORGIA GUIDE STONES?
Who wants to and is fast at work toward reducing the world’s population to 200,000,000?
Wake up, toots.
When we defeated the USSR in the Cold War, they lost their Eastern Europe colonies, but their Russian homeland stood strongly in the grasp of the same forces of darkness that have controlled them since 1917. To this day, the KGB and some Russian Mafioso still run the place.
We cut off their right arm, but we didn't cut off their head.
They remain a dangerous enemy. We did not defeat the forces of tyranny within Russia (note - I didn't say that we didn't defeat the forces of tyranny for all time in all places - that I agree is not possible - I said we didn't defeat the forces of tyranny in Russia at that time.)
Similarly, we did not defeat the forces of darkness in Germany after World War I. We forced them to collapse, reform and regroup. That's why we got to fight World War II.
Reagan was one of the great leaders of our time or any time. He understood freedom better than most of us, and was willing to devote his life and great talents to fighting tyranny. Collapsing and morphing the Soviet empire was a great victory. But the Russian snake is not dead, its head is not decapitated and crushed. Rather it is just morphed. And it is resurgent.
I fear for my country. With the Leftist control of much of the media, education and government, we may not be able to mount a full scale war again. This great light of liberty that has shown on this nation for the last two centuries will grow dim for many centuries when that day comes.
And this is all part of Russia's plan because ____?
To some people, any action positive or negative, whether it strengthens or weakens Russia, could be part of their plan, I suppose. Maybe when Czech, etc, joins the EU (which keeps out Russia) that's all part of Russia's "plan". Maybe Russia's "plan" for "winning" the Cold War and emerging victoriously as the ruler of a world empire is to become, in practice, a mafia backwater. "From this position of apparent weakness, we shall rule", they say, rubbing their hands together.
But at some point reality has to creep in. If a guy you meet down at the beach claims to be Napoleon, or part of a cabal which secretly rules the world, or something, it might be fun for a while to entertain the notion that it's actually true. But at the end of the day you're still looking at a crazy person. :)
It is a win/win for all. Socialists get their paradise while the Rockefeller/Rothschilds of the world will own the global central banks and be the true rulers/owners behind the scenes.
Even to the extent that what you're saying is true, it has little to do with crafting an actual case that actual Russia is on the path towards anything resembling a resurgent USSR empire with Russia at the helm.
I mean, if any pro-socialist development counts in your book as another piece of evidence that the USSR is coming back, methinks you give Russia entirely too much credit. People certainly don't need Russia's example, let alone her schemes, in order to be attracted to socialism. I think all of what you describe would be taking place equally as quickly if Russia did not exist at all.
I too have always been skeptical of the Soviet morph.
We have disarmed to a very large extent.
Heck, we are taking missile subs and redesigning them for conventional weapons and Seal deployment duty.
I believe we no longer have any land based ICBMs.
We are designing conventional warheads for sub based ICBMs. A multi-zillion dollar missile carrying a conventional warhead!! Have we lost our minds?
We don’t have enough troops to peacekeep in Iraq. What if there was a real war?
And what has Russia done while we are junking capability?
Developed new ICBMs they claim are capable of penetrating any anti-missile defense we are likely to field.
And developed other offensive weapons that slip my mind at the moment. A new bomber IIRC
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the whole reinvention of the Soviet Union was to disarm us.
It could explain Putin’s vehement objection to anti-missiles in Poland, some of the ‘Stans.
He’s not worried about stray incomings, he is concerned about his outgoing.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
And they couldn't find their asses with both hands and a flashlight.
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