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The Collapse Of The Soviet Union Was Staged
http://www.nowpublic.com/politics/collapse-soviet-union-was-staged-0 ^ | J. R. Nyquist

Posted on 11/25/2007 9:23:45 AM PST by Fennie

In 1984 a book was published with the title New Lies For Old. It was written by Soviet KGB defector Anatoly Golitsyn. The book claimed that the Soviet Union had a secret long-term strategy to disarm and defeat the United States through a controlled collapse of the Soviet empire that would take place in the last decade of the twentieth century. In the book's most remarkable chapter, titled "The Final Phase," Golitsyn accurately described the future of the Soviet bloc. Communism would give up its monopoly of power in Russia, he explained, as apparent freedom and democracy would be introduced. The communist Warsaw Pact alliance would be dissolved. The Berlin Wall might be taken down and Germany united as "the key to progress toward a neutral, socialist Europe"...


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To: Fennie; All

Funny how the libs keep trying to re-write history. (Communists and Liberals play on the same team)

The only reason they have not yet succeeded in flushing the real reasons for the end of the Cold War down the memory hole is that too many of us are still alive who lived through it and remember it.

Here is a good example: I went to a movie last night, and one of the previews was for “Charlie Wilson’s War”. I saw the book, but never read it. This preview was laced with small interview tidbits with the actors starring in it, Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts and so on. I like Tom Hanks, even though he is a raging lefty...he mostly keeps it to himself. In one of the interviews, Tom Hanks talks about how this guy Charlie Wilson was a real patriot who won the Cold War singlehandedly, and how there was no hypocrisy in his actions and deeds, etc.. Julia Roberts gushed over this guy, you get the idea.

Already, I think: “Hmm...Julia Roberts...Lefty...Tom Hanks...Lefty...these people would never do anything like this for someone like Oliver North, who was a genuine patriot...”

Then the preview tells you the screenplay was done by Aaron Sorkin...and that will tell you all you need to know about this.

They are relentless in their efforts to rewrite history, twist the language to suit their needs, and lie cheat and steal to gain power.


41 posted on 11/25/2007 10:08:54 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Fennie
Evidence of a long range Soviet strategy of controlled democratization and fake collapse for the purpose of disarming the West also appears in the writings of the high level Czech defector Jan Sejna. In his 1982 book, We Will Bury You, Sejna wrote of a plan to “convince the Capitalist countries that they had no need of military alliances.” He added that, “To this end we envisaged that it might be necessary to dissolve the Warsaw Pact, in which event we had already prepared a web of bilateral defence arrangements, to be supervised by secret committees of Comecon.”

Looks like those nasty Jihadist screwed up their plans.

42 posted on 11/25/2007 10:10:25 AM PST by Popman (My doohickey is discombobulated)
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To: TiaS
"Me thinks thee confuses sarcasm with the TRUTH — in all due respect."

And you think as well this was their grand plan?

Then I suppose they screwed it up in the execution.

Me thinks you give them waaay too much credit.

In all due respect.

43 posted on 11/25/2007 10:10:33 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Fennie
Well, the book was written in 1984 and it did claim what would happen. So either it’s real or the guy had an amazing talent for predicting the future. When you see Putie and his henchmen in control and they were all former KGB (even the Russian mob), and Russia is started to “backslide”, it does make you wonder.
44 posted on 11/25/2007 10:11:17 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: claudiustg

Yeah, right...

It’s true and so was 911. Yeah, that’s right.


45 posted on 11/25/2007 10:11:48 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Fennie

” claimed that the Soviet Union had a secret long-term strategy to disarm and defeat the United States”

The left’s hate for Reagan never ceases.

People don’t beleive it when I state that the hate for Reagan was much more intense than what we see against Bush today.

Viva La Reagan...


46 posted on 11/25/2007 10:11:49 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: rlmorel
"The only reason they have not yet succeeded in flushing the real reasons for the end of the Cold War down the memory hole is that too many of us are still alive who lived through it and remember it."

Well said, we lived through it.

47 posted on 11/25/2007 10:13:00 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Fennie; All

There have been at least two serious defectors assert such.

And, there are several other source threads asserting essentially the same thing.

Certainly the world military powers have been cooperating at least since . . . when 1954 or 1964 on the UFO stuff. I believe 1954 is accurate.

Lots of things are not as they seem.

And FREEPERS OF ALL PEOPLE

SHOULD KNOW

that VIRTUALLY NOTHING THE MSM asserts is as the MSM asserts it.

So, why on earth is it so difficult to see such HIDDEN IN PLAIN sight stuff by FREEPERS! Sheesh.

This is old hat, really.

The globalist puppet masters have been at it a very long time.

DERISIVE DENIAL is NOT a good survival trait!


48 posted on 11/25/2007 10:19:50 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
Most would laugh at this, but 60+ years ago, there was an address before the politburo from a Russian General who stated that this was indeed their plan. I remember getting a briefing on this one in a training class in the USAF back in the 80’s. He went so far as to state that they would in fact use capitalism to obtain the materials needed in order to defeat us — effectively they would use our rope to hang us. I never thought twice about that, until Putin woke the bear from hibernation.

I don't think the wounds to the former USSR are fatal and I do believe it will be back likely stronger than ever. They are still a military capable nation even having the infrastructure in place to produce weapons. Their plants are shuttered but not torn down unlike the United States former defense production plants. An influx of money will cure those woes for Russia and they will be ahead of us in production capabilities.

The fall of the USSR was for prophetic reasons and I see it as being short lived. Russia will join forces with Arabic nations to go to war against Israel.

49 posted on 11/25/2007 10:21:20 AM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

The globalist’s long ago co-opted all the significant leaders of any significance in any significant country.

It is, evidently, only a matter of whether a given leader will rush us to the global tyrannical government at the speed of light—like Shrillery . . . or someone else will move us there somewhat slower.


50 posted on 11/25/2007 10:22:33 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Fennie

Pastor David J Smith of the Newswatch radio program has been saying this for several years.


51 posted on 11/25/2007 10:24:14 AM PST by balch3
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To: sandyeggo

Thanks.

Glad someone’s awake.

Sad to see so many FREEPERS so willfully asleep; so willfully blind; so willfully walking about in blind denial.

We of all groups should be 1,000% awake and diligent in behalf of FREEDOM.

Sad to observe. Very sad to see sooooo many FREEPERS soooo blind.


52 posted on 11/25/2007 10:24:22 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Fennie

Everybody knows that the Soviet Union was just another Czarist scheme.


53 posted on 11/25/2007 10:25:05 AM PST by Popocatapetl
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To: fanfan

Cheap inaccurate shots must be

cheap fun.


54 posted on 11/25/2007 10:25:39 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Cicero

Methinks your research is lacking.


55 posted on 11/25/2007 10:26:49 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Popman

No.

The Jihadi’s are a later stage of their grand plan.

Just as von Braun asserted to Dr Carol Rosin in 1974 . . . first a war on terror. Then a war with Iraq.

Followed by a war in space with ET.

All to coerce and scare the world’s citizens into a global tyrannical government just as The Bible predicted 2,000 years ago.

Elementary, My Dear Watson.


56 posted on 11/25/2007 10:29:49 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Popocatapetl
Everybody knows that the Soviet Union was just another Czarist scheme.

You fool! The so-called "Czar" system was a clever ruse instituted by the Kniazes to fool the Mongols. Worked like a charm, too.

57 posted on 11/25/2007 10:32:20 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Fennie

One word refutes such conspiracy theories: Poland.


58 posted on 11/25/2007 10:34:14 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: al baby

She looks like somebody just hit her in the face with a shovel.


59 posted on 11/25/2007 10:37:00 AM PST by Nik Naym (If Republicans are your problem, Democrats aren't the answer!)
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To: Popocatapetl

lol


60 posted on 11/25/2007 10:38:09 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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