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Grammar Police Requested

Posted on 08/29/2007 5:50:29 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel

I was in a *boring* meeting, absentmindedly doodling on a scratch pad. I was pretty amazed after the meeting when I noticed that I doodled the following:


"I so enjoy discussions like these", she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

After the meeting, I glanced at my notes and have a serious question: is these appropriate in this context? I mean, should the correct grammar be: "I so enjoy discussions like this", she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand. I mean, isn't discussions a collective and therefore implies a singular?

Please set me straight. I am longing for instruction.


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To: MrsEmmaPeel
I am longing for instruction.

This is the kind of statement that makes grammar Nazis tingle.

61 posted on 08/29/2007 7:55:23 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

Only if there are several bloody corpses of socialist democrats before you, as you ponder the grammar, are you correct. If only one bloody corpse, then the singular would have been more appropriate.


62 posted on 08/29/2007 7:59:12 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
"I so enjoy discussions like these", she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

The style book I consulted made a distinction between "this kind" and "these kinds."

If we reworded your sentence, it could be "these kinds of discussions" or "this kind of discussion." So it's clear that you've at least written in the appropriate sense (these discussions).

Whether you used it properly with regard to meaning is yet to be discovered.

It's somewhat context-sensitive. If your fictional(?) woman is rendered homicidal by particular discussion, you'd want to use "a discussion like this."

If, however, she were a situational murderer who was set off by examples of a general class of discussion, then I think "discussions like these" would be appropriate.

Alternatively, she may be set off by a repetition of the same discussion -- in which case "discussions like this (one)" would be fine.

So, really, it depends on you. Are you generally homicidal, or not?

63 posted on 08/29/2007 8:08:07 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: JennysCool

LOL! Good to see you old friend.


64 posted on 08/29/2007 8:09:48 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: r9etb
Are you generally homicidal, or not?

Hey I just glanced at my meeting notes. I was most concerned about the possible grammar infraction I may have committed

65 posted on 08/29/2007 8:12:55 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Hey I just glanced at my meeting notes. I was most concerned about the possible grammar infraction I may have committed

I'll put that down under "situationally homicidal." And I'll be careful with my apostrophes, next time we share a thread....

66 posted on 08/29/2007 8:16:32 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

And you as well!


67 posted on 08/29/2007 8:33:35 PM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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To: Shyla
I really could give a crap!!!!

See, now, that is technically incorrect. It should be that you couldn't give a crap.

Feel free to now tell me that you could give a crap about the fact that it should say that you couldn't give a crap.

:-) :-)
68 posted on 08/29/2007 9:09:43 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Mrs. Peel, sweep your comma inside your quotes and enjoy your sentence; it's yummy as is.

Is the meeting one discussion? Or is it rather a tide of voices ebbing and flowing, discussions like wave caps.

Is it the first meeting of these people, or yet another in a series, in which case these discussions is apt.

I enjoy discussions like these sounds smooth.

RoboCop2 would say, "I enjoy discussions like these, wielding my minigun against simpering castrati."


69 posted on 08/29/2007 9:14:01 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
I have no idea but must bump for Emma Pell, regardless.


70 posted on 08/29/2007 10:36:14 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Grammar Police Requested

You want to have your Gramma arrested? Why? What did she do?

71 posted on 08/30/2007 2:33:05 AM PDT by lowbridge ("We control this House, not the parliamentarians!” -Congressman Steny Hoyer (D))
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To: Yardstick

LOL


72 posted on 08/30/2007 5:12:27 AM PDT by Shyla
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To: RepublitarianRoger

lol :)


73 posted on 08/30/2007 5:13:08 AM PDT by Shyla
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
"I so enjoy discussions like these", she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

"I so enjoy discussions like these," she said, wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

OR

"I so enjoy discussions like these," she said while wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

74 posted on 08/30/2007 5:19:47 AM PDT by bannie
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
"I so enjoy discussions like these", she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

"I so enjoy discussions like these," she said, wielding a bloody axe in her ready, twitching hand.

75 posted on 08/30/2007 5:22:09 AM PDT by bannie
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To: processing please hold
Punctuation before quotations

Always?

There are always "exceptions"; it depends on the circumstances. ;)
76 posted on 08/30/2007 12:11:35 PM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and tshirtcollections.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: Petronski

COPY EDITOR TO THE WORLD


77 posted on 08/30/2007 12:12:48 PM PDT by cyborg (Long Island Half Marathon finisher!)
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To: bannie; G8 Diplomat
Is "In her hand" redundant?
is it better written as:

"I so enjoy discussions like these," she said, wielding a bloody axe.

Have to admit, I do like the "ready, twitching" addition.

78 posted on 08/30/2007 4:54:33 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Tax-chick
If you're speaking about discussions (plural topics/subject matter) that are taking place at that particular meeting, it's singular.

If you repeated the meeting it say two days later, it would be plural.

What did I win? LOL!

79 posted on 08/30/2007 4:59:47 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

I think you’re right.

“In her hand” is probably not needed.

Good call!


80 posted on 08/30/2007 5:29:44 PM PDT by bannie
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