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Mortgage meltdown: The lawsuits
http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/16/real_estate/here_come_the_judgements/index.htm?postversion=200708201 ^ | 8-20-07 | Les Christie,

Posted on 08/20/2007 9:56:04 AM PDT by Hydroshock

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Earlier this year, a Wisconsin couple won a judgment against Chevy Chase Bank that said the bank deceived them over the terms of their mortgage.

The judge ordered Chevy Chase to rescind the loan and certified the lawsuit as class-action, which could potentially release thousands of other borrowers who felt misled.

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According to their attorney, Bryan and Susan Andrews believed they were getting a loan with a fixed 1.95 percent annual interest rate for the first five years. What they got was an option adjustable-rate mortgage (ARM); the 1.95 percent rate only applied for the first month and rose every month afterwards.

"The second month, the interest rate was about 5 percent," said their attorney Kevin Demet. "After a year it was about 7 percent and now it's in the 8s."

The bank said it clearly spelled out the loan terms, but the judge found that Chevy Chase violated the Truth in Lending Act (TILA), which mandates that mortgage documents must be clear and understandable. Chevy Chase is appealing the judgment, and did not respond for comment for this article.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: applesonly5cents; depression; despair; doom; dustbowl; grapesofwrath; lawsuits; lawyers; mortgage; realestatebubble; speculation; subprime; vulturegram
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To: Hydroshock
Agreed, but I expect to hear more of this. I remember reading of a county in TX were the banks could not foreclose on any property in the depression, the sheriff would not do it adn the county judges would not take part init as well. In a year or so will any jury find for the bank in these cases?

McMansion exception?

21 posted on 08/20/2007 10:34:15 AM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: Hydroshock
ARM’s are for idiots, and that will soon be the mantra of many by this time next year.

Idiots who want to save money. Right now the spread has come down, but it saved me a half of a point over 5 years when I did it, which more than justifies it. I have never stayed in a house more than 3 years. You can live in a bomb shelter with a security blanket if you wish. You have to base decisions on reality. You can't just make blanket statements and call everyone an idiot who does not agree with 'your reality'.

22 posted on 08/20/2007 10:34:17 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: TexasCajun
I understand they even have interest-only mortgages available?

Not only do they have them BUT many "Interest Only" loans DO NOT EVEN REQUIRE PAYMENTS WHICH COVER THE INTEREST!

THE UNPAID INTEREST IS ADDED TO THE PRINCIPAL EACH MONTH!!!

23 posted on 08/20/2007 10:37:19 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Always Right
And lose their homes. I saw a whole lot of ARM’s foreclosed on in the late 1980’s. An I am seeing it now on a larger scale. If you can not afford 120% of the total cost of a house on a 30 year or better yet 15 year fixed with 10% down it is to costly for you. ARM’s are gambling with your families financial future. I will not do that to my kids.
24 posted on 08/20/2007 10:37:57 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: ExSES
THE UNPAID INTEREST IS ADDED TO THE PRINCIPAL EACH MONTH!!!

Just when I thought I'd heard everything.

25 posted on 08/20/2007 10:41:12 AM PDT by Aquamarine
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To: Hydroshock

You base all your decisions on a paranoid reality. Just because a rate is adjustable does not make it more likely you will lose your home. For the first five years, it is less likely if you have a lower rate. Why do you insist that your reality applies to everyone???? It is STUPID to pay extra for a rate when you know you are gonna move. STUPID. End of discussion.


26 posted on 08/20/2007 10:41:26 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

When the rates are at historic lows which way will they go? Up. I for one will not gamble my family’s future on an ARM.


27 posted on 08/20/2007 10:45:24 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

A 5-year ARM is FIXED for FIVE YEARS! I really don’t care which way the rates are going if I move anytime before then. Get it?


28 posted on 08/20/2007 10:55:27 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

So? Like I said I could have sworn on a stack of bibles I would be out of my current house in under 5 years, that was 6 years ago. Life does not always follow your plans and why take a chance this big with your family? Get it.


29 posted on 08/20/2007 10:58:04 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Aquamarine
Just when I thought I'd heard everything.

There are some really flakey mortgages out there and many are hiding within AAA rated CMOs courtesy of "generous" securities rating agencies! Is it any wonder that hedge funds (and other entities), when forced to account for what the value of their "TRUE ASSETS" is, no buyers can be found (thus giving their assets a immediate ZERO value?

It will be many months (hopefully not years) before an accurate picture of the extent of this problem will be revealed!

Just wait until all these "genious" portfolio managers are exposed as either careless idiots or outright crooks! All this after they collected exhorbitant fees for placing their clients' assets in "Gilded Junk"!

30 posted on 08/20/2007 10:59:33 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Hydroshock
I'm happy with my ARM, primarily because I did some simple math before signing on any dotted line. I got a fixed rate of 4.875 for 36 months. My rate can then adjust upward with a 2% annual cap, so beginning with my upcoming January payment, my new rate will be (at the most) 6.875%. Sounds high, right? My principal is currently $66,567. That means my interest payment will increase from $271 to $276. Five bucks a month.
31 posted on 08/20/2007 11:03:11 AM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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To: goldstategop

What more do banks need to do? Read the disclosures to the applicants? And they best get it on tape or else the shysters will go after them.


32 posted on 08/20/2007 11:04:39 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("I mean, he's gone from Jane Fonda to Dr. Strangelove in one week." - Romney on B. Hussein Obama)
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To: grellis
6.875%. Sounds high, right?

No but in 10 years you could be paying 24.875%. Now that sounds high.

33 posted on 08/20/2007 11:13:38 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Hydroshock
So? Like I said I could have sworn on a stack of bibles I would be out of my current house in under 5 years, that was 6 years ago. Life does not always follow your plans and why take a chance this big with your family? Get it.

So, there are millions of people who do move within 5 years, but because you did not, everyone is stupid. Got it.

34 posted on 08/20/2007 11:15:28 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

And how many will get burned by not being able to move or not wanting? The risk is way to great to play with something so important to you family.


35 posted on 08/20/2007 11:19:37 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock
ARM’s are for idiots

Wow: Talk about a mile wide broad brush.

There are excellent ARMs provided people got them for the right reasons. I know someone very well who has a 7/1 ARM with a 4% interest rate that doesn't reset until 2011, by which time he planned on downsizing anyway, since the kiddies will all be done with college then, for several years. In fact, when he realized that money was essentially free in 2004 when he took out the mortgage, he borrowed more than he actually needed, and still has over 65% equity in his home.

36 posted on 08/20/2007 11:20:31 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Always Right

You are right, as always! ;-)


37 posted on 08/20/2007 11:20:57 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Hydroshock

5% fixed is one thing when your talking about a 175,000 dollar piece of real estate.

It’s quite another if it is a 375,000 piece!


38 posted on 08/20/2007 11:21:05 AM PDT by djf (America welcomes immigrants! Sadly, America welcomes crimmigrants even more...)
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To: Hydroshock

On a 5 year Arm, I would say real close to zero. You have zero tolerance for risk and see fear everywhere.


39 posted on 08/20/2007 11:22:50 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Not zero, but I do not take cances when I do not have to. And I figure many will side with me afte rhte next 2 years.


40 posted on 08/20/2007 11:27:19 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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