Steve Jobs announces Apple Safari web browser for Windows XP and Vista

Steve Jobs ^ | June 11, 2007

[HAL9000]

Steve Jobs at Apple Worldwide Developers Conferences announces -

11:10 am - Safari 3 on leopard...now runs on xp/vista

Live transcript: http://www.macrumorslive.com/

[HAL9000]

Sorry—I’ve used both. Safari sux. Firefox puts Safari in the shade in so many ways. Safari isn’t better in any way.

Safari launches faster and uses less memory. Firefox has known problems with text rendering. And in my opinion, Safari has a better user interface, better typography, and it's web page rendering just looks better - especially during extended usage.

I do use Firefox on rare occasions where Safari has a problem. The Safari 3 beta seems to fix some of the old problems, so my usage of Firefox will probably continue to decline.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

An explanation of the multiple posts:

Selected post once. It took a long time to finish, and had to get off the computer soon. So selected stop.

Pressed post again, and when the screen changed to the thread page, shut down the computer promptly (by pressing the button).

Then when got onto the internet today and selected restore session, the post screen was up again with the message--as though it hadn't posted. So selected post again.

There. That's why there are so many posts. You can make snide comments if you want....

[goldstategop]

No issues with the upgrade on Mac OSX and the installs on Windows Vista.

[goldstategop]

Its a beta. It may work better with a PPC Mac.

[Spktyr]

Today’s example: www.magnaflow.com has rendering errors on Firefox. Just go into their catalog pages - only the first screenful will render, cutting the rest of it off.

[ShadowAce]

how do you run two operating systems at the same time on the same computer?

Check out VMware Server. You run the second (or third, or fourth) OS within a VM inside the first OS.

[dayglored]

>> how do you run two operating systems at the same time on the same computer?

> ... You run the second (or third, or fourth) OS within a VM inside the first OS.

The "native" OS is the one that boots when the hardware of the computer starts up. Let's say that's Mac OS X. It will be the "host" OS of your virtual machines (VM).

Once the host is booted, you start an application task, same as if you were starting a word processor or web browser. Except that -this- task, instead of being an environment in which you edit a file or surf the web, is an environment in which you will boot another operating system. Completely "encapsulated" in the application's environment, the "guest" OS can be almost anything, including another copy of the same OS used as the host, if you want.

You can have more than one guest OS running, the same as you can have more than one application running -- they're independent environments.

You can do networking between them, share folders, etc. just as if they were on separate hardware.

You don't need VMware server, by the way. Here I am doing it on a MacBook (the small one), running:

• Mac OS X 10.4 (native, host)
• Windows XP Pro (guest VM)
• Linux Fedora Core 4 (guest VM)
• MS-DOS 7 (guest VM)

All these operating systems are running AT ONCE (concurrently), and they can communicate with each other and the internet.

[dayglored]

Oops, sorry, forgot to say...

> ...You don't need VMware server, by the way. Here I am doing it on a MacBook...

... that screen snap was while I'm using VMware "Fusion", their new product for Mac OS X, currently a free beta. If you want to use Windows or Linux as your host OS, use VMware Workstation (~$150) if you want to create your own VMs from scratch, or VMware Player (free) if you want to use existing ones from other folks or downloaded.

www.vmware.com

P.S. I am not in any way associated with VMware. I'm just a thrilled customer.

[unspun]

I never did get the love for Firefox.. I found Opera & IE run much better.

Opera bump!

[GATOR NAVY]

Itunes for Windows stinks on ice.

I can't compare it to a mac because I've never used one. But my Windows iTunes works fine. I run 3 different iPods on 3 different user profiles with no problems.

[Mr. Know It All]

Oooooh! Nerd porn!

[dayglored]

[pic of multiple VMs running on the Mac...]

> Oooooh! Nerd porn!

Nah, the porn was running on the -fourth- VM... hidden behind the other ones... ;-)

[martin_fierro]

Just downloaded it today to my XP laptop.

Will give it a spin, but it’s gonna take a lot to lure me away from FireFox.