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Steve Jobs announces Apple Safari web browser for Windows XP and Vista
Steve Jobs ^ | June 11, 2007

Posted on 06/11/2007 11:14:01 AM PDT by HAL9000

Steve Jobs at Apple Worldwide Developers Conferences announces -

11:10 am - Safari 3 on leopard...now runs on xp/vista

Live transcript: http://www.macrumorslive.com/


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; firefox; ie; microsoft; safari; vista; windows; xp
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To: HAL9000
In my experience, it's the "Internet Explorer" workarounds that cause a lot of grief.

Amen.

I haven't been on the "front lines" of GUI development for a while a Google search shows that my impression of Safari is a few years out of date. It looks like it's considerably less buggy than it was in earlier releases (then again, what isn't? Oh yeah, IE.)

21 posted on 06/11/2007 1:26:42 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: Spktyr

The latest Firefox won’t let me fill in my electronic timesheet, which is hosted online. I’ve been doing it for the last few days on Internet Explorer (Aieeeeee!!) or at home on Safari - no problems with that, thank you very much.


22 posted on 06/11/2007 1:40:26 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (It's never a good time to get sucked into an evil vortex.)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; ..

23 posted on 06/11/2007 6:00:41 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: HAL9000; ShadowAce; martin_fierro; Keith in Iowa; Mr. Know It All
Let's recall that Apple is a HARDWARE company.

They have every motivation in the world to try to attract the attention of Windows users. Giving Win-users Safari costs them nothing, and puts one more instance of the Apple logo on the Win desktop. One more potential Win-user to be seduced to the Apple side.

With VMware's Fusion for the Mac, I can run Mac OS, Windows (XP and/or Vista), Linux, BSD, and whatever else you name, all concurrently. But only on Apple hardware.

If you want to run Mac OS, you buy Mac hardware. Then you can run everything else too, even all at once. I'm doing it as I type, it's a gas. OS-X 10.4, Win-XP, Fedora Core 4 Linux, NetBSD 3.1, and (OMG!) DOS 7.1. They can share files (Samba) and even cut/paste text between OSes.

Apple's not stupid, and their hardware prices are constantly becoming more competitive. They are rapidly becoming the hardware platform of choice.

24 posted on 06/11/2007 6:29:25 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: HAL9000

not a pc it’s not.
http://www.2and2.net.nyud.net:8080/files/466da2e7adac5.jpg
dang near suck the life out of your pc.

on a mac it feel more at home but seems to cause problems on some multimedia type sites.

firefox isn’t perfect either on a mac sometimes it really screws up some websites layouts.

imo: IE is the best and fastest, to bad it is like sharing a needle while having sex with a hooker. ever time you go on the net, you are going to catch something.

i use firefox because it feels the same on every OS. i like that.


25 posted on 06/11/2007 7:00:23 PM PDT by postaldave (republicans need spending rehab before trying to control congress again.)
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To: ShadowAce

I pulled down the Safari beta today at work - it’s pretty slick. I have a mac here at home and love Safari. I can’t wait until leopard is out.

Of course, Drudge has a story about how Apple used the occasion of their conference to kick the Republicans in the nads... Oh well, as long as they don’t run linux, I guess that’s ok.


26 posted on 06/11/2007 7:02:09 PM PDT by Salo
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To: dayglored

And coincidently, it will also run on the new Iphone.


27 posted on 06/11/2007 7:11:10 PM PDT by gondramB (Do not do to others as you would not wish done to yourself. Thus no murmuring will rise against you.)
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To: HAL9000
It's ugly, it removes what was typed in other tabs' url boxes (for most people this might not be much of an issue), it seems strange, and it's almost as though it's a cheap knock-off of Firefox.

This is being posted on Safari btw.

Going back to Firefox.....

28 posted on 06/11/2007 7:20:18 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: HAL9000
Back on Firefox.....

And Safari (in contrast to what they state) was slower, too.

29 posted on 06/11/2007 7:21:32 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: dayglored

I think your post is spot on.


30 posted on 06/11/2007 7:22:43 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Nor does it seem to save sessions, and it doesn’t appear to be as customizable as Firefox.


31 posted on 06/11/2007 7:27:29 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: dayglored

Why would you run more than one operating system at the same time? An actual question.


32 posted on 06/11/2007 7:29:12 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: dayglored

Why would you run more than one operating system at the same time? An actual question.


33 posted on 06/11/2007 7:29:56 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
> Why would you run more than one operating system at the same time? An actual question.

Because I want to run different applications that only are available, or work best, in different OSes. For instance, Citrix GoToMeeting is only available for Windows, iPhoto is only on MacOS, etc.

I've always got half a dozen windows open to different tasks -- it's how I work. Email in one, a few browser windows on different sites, a Word doc, a spreadsheet or powerpoint, GoToMeeting, Skype, a text editor, a few xterms to the Unix boxes, etc. Back in the bad old days I had to either be dual-booting all the time (lost productivity) or have an array of machines on my desk and a KVM switch. Using VMs (virtual machines) is the perfect solution.

34 posted on 06/11/2007 8:54:48 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Mr. Know It All
> I think your post is spot on.

Thanks.

FWIW, I've been more or less OS-agnostic for 30+ years of computing, with times as a Mac-head, Unix-head, DOS-head, Linux-head, even (I admit) a Windows-head. I use what works best for the tasks at hand, and don't get into religious battles, because although they all have their good points, nothing is perfect, and at some level they all suck, too.

At different times of day, I'm on FreeRepublic with my Linux box (like now), or my Mac, or my Windows machine. It doesn't really matter to me; usually I'm Freeping in one window while (allegedly!) working in another couple of windows...

Virtual machines (VMs) changed my life. I can now have it all on one piece of hardware. The fact that it happens to be a Mac is nice, I like their styling. But that's secondary.

35 posted on 06/11/2007 9:01:38 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: HAL9000

Sorry—I’ve used both. Safari sux. Firefox puts Safari in the shade in so many ways. Safari isn’t better in any way.


36 posted on 06/12/2007 9:22:09 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred D. Thompson for POTUS!)
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To: Spktyr

Where have you run into rendering errors with Firefox? Or had it refuse to load a page??


37 posted on 06/12/2007 9:24:49 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred D. Thompson for POTUS!)
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To: dayglored

Why would you run more than one operating system at the same time? An actual question.


38 posted on 06/12/2007 9:52:09 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: dayglored
Sorry for the double post.

Your response has brought up another question: how do you run two operating systems at the same time on the same computer? Have only tried running more than one OS on a single computer recently (a computer with Windows broke down, and some freepers suggested that Linux be used), and to get on Linux, it was selected in the boot menu (although the Puppy Linux desktop did have tab on the bottom with Windows in it (but it didn't work)......). Is it similar to having multiple browser windows open at the same time, and there's some way that toggle between OSs. Curious.

39 posted on 06/12/2007 10:01:32 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: HAL9000
Can I get rid of Internet Explorer now? Hehehehe
40 posted on 06/12/2007 10:20:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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