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Microsoft takes on the free world (Gates wants royalties on Linux)
Fortune Magazine ^ | May 13, 2007 | Roger Parloff

Posted on 05/13/2007 4:05:27 PM PDT by Zakeet

Free software is great, and corporate America loves it. It's often high-quality stuff that can be downloaded free off the Internet and then copied at will. It's versatile - it can be customized to perform almost any large-scale computing task - and it's blessedly crash-resistant.

A broad community of developers, from individuals to large companies like IBM, is constantly working to improve it and introduce new features. No wonder the business world has embraced it so enthusiastically: More than half the companies in the Fortune 500 are thought to be using the free operating system Linux in their data centers.

But now there's a shadow hanging over Linux and other free software, and it's being cast by Microsoft. The Redmond behemoth asserts that one reason free software is of such high quality is that it violates more than 200 of Microsoft's patents. And as a mature company facing unfavorable market trends and fearsome competitors like Google (Charts, Fortune 500), Microsoft is pulling no punches: It wants royalties. If the company gets its way, free software won't be free anymore.

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KEYWORDS: chairthrowing; intellectualproperty; linux; microsoft; monkeyboy; opensource; patents; software; tech
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To: goodnesswins
Didn’t Gates take his “software” from IBM???? Or am I misremembering something.

No, the other way around. IBM was desperate for an OS for their new PC computers. Gates had one with MS-DOS (Microsoft Disk Operating System). I think he wrote it himself, but I"m not sure. Gates held out for a royalty deal. IBM had no choice but to cave in.

The rest is history. PCs took off and Microsoft got a royalty payment on every copy of MS-DOS packaged with them.

On the one hand I admire Gates who not only was a very good programmer but proved to be multi-dimensional as he oversaw probably the most rapid growth of a mega-corporation ever. On the other, I believe MS often used predatory and illegal methods to crush their competition.

81 posted on 05/13/2007 7:32:34 PM PDT by Northern Alliance
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To: Zakeet
Software patents are little more than a racket.

And Microsoft is acting like a racketeer.

82 posted on 05/13/2007 7:33:02 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: mamelukesabre
Someone could theoretically patent the process of trading stocks and then demand a royalty on every profit made on wall street. Right?

No, because they have to prove that the patent is "non-obvious", and you also have to deal with "prior art", meaning the "invention" has not already been invented.

83 posted on 05/13/2007 7:36:05 PM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Northern Alliance
Gates had one with MS-DOS (Microsoft Disk Operating System). I think he wrote it himself, but I"m not sure. Gates held out for a royalty deal. IBM had no choice but to cave in.

Gates knew IBM was looking for an OS, so he bought the forerunner to MSDOS from a company called Seattle Computer Products. Their product was a CP/M clone for the 8086 CPU. Gates bought it from SCP for I think $75,000. Eventually Microsoft paid them $1 million to settle a lawsuit.

84 posted on 05/13/2007 7:42:17 PM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: denlittle

I just had a wild idea.

Start patenting or copywrighting lottery numbers. When they come up winners, you get some of the loot.


85 posted on 05/13/2007 7:53:53 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Viking2002

Bill Gates made a statement about ten years ago about the possibility that someone else could develop a product that could beat Microsoft’s OS, and that was simply a market reality, so Microsoft would have to keep continuing to improve their product (the latter in reality is becoming very debatable).
Now someone else develops a better product, and one company doesn’t like it and sues. Wahh!
Microsoft’s day is coming to an end if it adopts this practice. If this course of action (sue the competitor if the competitor develops something better) is truly the direction of Microsoft, then it is time for Microsoft to die. Disclaimer - this is not a terroristic threat against Microsoft. The marketplace will eventually take care of Microsoft’s demise.


86 posted on 05/13/2007 8:05:39 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Mannaggia l'America

Are you sure? I thought IBM was talking to Gary Kildall at the same time they were talking to Gates. Supposedly, they showed up at his house, Kildall was out, his wife wouldn’t sign an NDA, so Gates ended up getting first crack, and the rest is history.


87 posted on 05/13/2007 8:32:14 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
Microsoft's gradually become irrelevant as its core customer is now a shrinking base of home users who (are forced to) buy Windows only with new PC's.

Yes, and Apple is starting to eat into Microsoft from the home side, while Linux tears them a new one from the corporate side. Couldn't happen to a finer bunch of fellows.

Windows has always been a piece of used food. I am so happy to see everyone finally realizing that the emperor has no clothes.

-ccm

88 posted on 05/13/2007 9:03:31 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: goodnesswins
a good friend of mine just got a new computer....she needed one badly....and she isn’t very computer literate....she, of course, got one with VISTA.....she HATES IT!

Should have got her a Mac.

-ccm

89 posted on 05/13/2007 9:06:10 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ccmay

Hmmmm.....I wonder if she can return it.....she’s in Montana....I’m not.....but, tell me....can a mac user use the same excel, word, publisher files, i.e. are they transferable yet?


90 posted on 05/13/2007 9:25:28 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: Mannaggia l'America
The precursor of MSDOS wasn't much better than CP/M. Gates hired J. Gordon Letwin away from Heathkit where he authored most of HDOS (Heathkit DOS). Letwin incorporated the loadable device driver from HDOS into the new MSDOS to make it more flexible than CP/M. Microsoft also licensed System 7 UNIX from Western Electric. That became the baseline for their Xenix product on the Tandy/Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 16 (68000). Letwin incorporated the tree structured filesystem of UNIX into MSDOS, but bastardized the slash/backslash orientation to pretend it was "different".

I recognize much of the technology snitched from HDOS and UNIX as I've had full source code to both since 1980.

91 posted on 05/13/2007 9:25:49 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: goldstategop
Microsoft: The Borg Of The Software World

When you can't compete in the marketplace, you send in the lawyers to sow FUD. 

92 posted on 05/13/2007 9:33:58 PM PDT by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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To: Zakeet

That’s why we have BSD, lol.


93 posted on 05/13/2007 9:50:39 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: D-fendr

Plus, if MS sues, they’ll have to highlight just which parts of the Linux kernel violate their patents. Any code that might offends can be repaired in six months.


94 posted on 05/13/2007 9:51:59 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: VeniVidiVici

That would be wrong. :p

It isn’t uncommon for server farms to have individual blade servers with 32 GB per individual system.


95 posted on 05/13/2007 9:55:28 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: denlittle

LOL

96 posted on 05/13/2007 10:03:12 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Zakeet
On issues like this, I find it useful to refer to our Constitution -

"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;"

Microsoft is entitled to some exclusive rights for their true inventions. If their rights are insufficient - or excessive - we fail to promote science and useful arts.

But Microsoft is also a convicted monopolist, so it is reasonable to expect them to license their intellectual property on a fair basis.

For a technology like the SMB/CIFS protocols - which doesn't really represent much of an innovation - the Linux consortium ought to be able to obtain a perpetual, non-exclusive license for a six-figure fee. Most of Microsoft's other protocols should be available for less than that.

97 posted on 05/13/2007 10:05:31 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: BJungNan
At least that Blue Screen of Death will let you recover your data that you were working on before it crashed.

Huh?

98 posted on 05/13/2007 11:03:28 PM PDT by Erasmus (This tagline on paid leave, pending the deportation hearing.)
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To: Myrddin; Mannaggia l'America
> The precursor of MSDOS... Letwin incorporated the tree structured filesystem of UNIX into MSDOS, but bastardized the slash/backslash orientation to pretend it was "different".

Ummm, nope. Microsoft adopted backslash for the directory separator because the UNIX forward slash directory separator was already in use as a switch character in CP/M (and every DEC OS: RT-11, RSX-11, VMS) and to retain command-line compatibility with CP/M it was necessary to retain the forward slash for switches -- for the user, anyway (the OS itself wouldn't care, of course).

The obvious and correct choice for switch character would be the dash (hyphen) used in UNIX, right? And the UNIX forward slash for directory separator, right? Well, guess what...

1. The ONLY place where the backslash is required for directories -- to this day in Windows -- is in the user interface. All places in the BIOS and operating system calls (e.g. INT 21), either forward slash or backslash are valid as directory separator.

2. In versions of DOS prior to 5.0, you could set an environment variable called "SWITCHAR" which would be interpreted as the switch character. That is, if you

set SWITCHAR=-
you could use UNIX '-' for the switch character on all COMMAND.COM commands. DOS function 3700 allowed a program to query the SWITCHAR to interpret the passed commandline.

Unfortunately, SWITCHAR didn't gain wide acceptance except among (us) UNIX programmers who were forced to deal with MS-DOS, and it was eventually dropped. But it was there.

Anyway, the backslash wasn't chosen "to pretend it was different", it was because they HAD to be different, if they were to retain CP/M compatibility on the command-line.

And with regard to "bastardized" -- you are exactly right!

99 posted on 05/13/2007 11:09:35 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Constantine XIII

Happy Decoder Fun Ball Turnon.

What you say!


100 posted on 05/13/2007 11:13:01 PM PDT by Erasmus (This tagline on paid leave, pending the deportation hearing.)
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