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1 posted on 04/17/2007 7:39:40 AM PDT by freeplancer
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Where are all the men?

They’re wringing their hands and waiting to see what Oprah has to say about this.


2 posted on 04/17/2007 7:42:05 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Broad-minded is just another way of saying a fellow is too lazy to form an opinion." Will Rogers)
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“Trey Perkins, a 19 year old”

Leave the kid alone. American society does not allow men any longer - it is against the rules to be a man.

That said, single out this young man is wrong.


3 posted on 04/17/2007 7:43:00 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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Depens what they mean by reloaded. If he ejected the magazine and was stuffing new rounds into it then you have a point. If he ejected the magazine and inserted a new one then you have no point.

I can shoot a round from a gun and reload a new magazine and fire another round in about 1.2 seconds. Some people can do it under 1 second.


4 posted on 04/17/2007 7:43:18 AM PDT by BRITinUSA
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Where are all the men?.....going to Private Schools...........


5 posted on 04/17/2007 7:43:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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assault the ambush or die......simple as that, and it will never change.....


6 posted on 04/17/2007 7:44:11 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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Stand by for some Freeper to come along and tell you how insensitive you are—but that was the question my husband and I pondered this morning. Apparently there was one hero, a professor who was a Holocaust survivor, who blocked a door to help his students get away. Young strapping lads, however, didn’t have that “Lets roll” quality.


7 posted on 04/17/2007 7:44:31 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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The libs have fought hard to sissify American males. In some cases, it seems they have succeeded.

But let us not forget the brave men and women in Iraq. There are plenty of real men out there.


8 posted on 04/17/2007 7:44:34 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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The Police Chiefs' Association recommends that citizens not take justice into their own hands.

They recommend that people always cooperate with criminals so they won't hurt you.

The Police Chiefs Association knows best.

</sarcasm>

9 posted on 04/17/2007 7:44:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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You have your answer: "Cowards, bystanders, and wimps."

I too, am ashamed and disgusted. That doesn't require a military background.

Why have the sheep shunned the sheepdogs while the wolves threaten them??

10 posted on 04/17/2007 7:45:18 AM PDT by paulcissa (Only YOU can prevent liberalism.)
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Easy to say, but how many of us know what we’d really do in such a situation? I’d like to think that I would be willing to take the chance of getting killed myself to put a stop to a madman like this, but I don’t really know. I’ve never seen people shot around me and faced being shot myself. And it’s not like this was a war - most people were probably in shock, not having expected their class on rigid body dynamics to suddenly be interrupted by bullets flying, blood spilling, people crying, etc.

I admit though, you’d think maybe a few guys would get together, and with the increased courage that goes along with acting as a group, have jumped this guy and taken him down. But again, that’s easy to say from a thousand miles away sitting in front of a keyboard.


13 posted on 04/17/2007 7:46:33 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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Hey!

What happened to “Womens Lib”?

Why didn’t a 5’ 1” 101 pound blond school gurl tackle this guy?

Equal opportunity....right?

LOL


15 posted on 04/17/2007 7:47:14 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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All the media
had "experts" on yesterday
saying young folks' minds

have been made violent
by endless video games.
If that were true then

you'd think LOTS of kids
would have fought back. I don't think
any kids fought back . . .
17 posted on 04/17/2007 7:47:23 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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All the Republican Men are fighting in Iraq....all the liberals are sitting in classrooms turning tail....


18 posted on 04/17/2007 7:47:53 AM PDT by auto power
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good point.


22 posted on 04/17/2007 7:49:36 AM PDT by ripley
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He said there was no time to get over the obstacles, ie. the desks thrown down as a barricade. It sure is easy to judge sitting in your comfortable chair typing on a computer. What a leap of logic you make. You hardly have a complete picture, yet you casually talk about foolhardy action. You would have made a great remf general in World War I. The RE in remf stands for rear echelon.

Where are all the men in America? I saw them in the police officers yesterday. I see them going to Iraq and Afghanistan. We still exist no matter what you nattering nabobs of negativism keep spouting.


25 posted on 04/17/2007 7:49:56 AM PDT by Harris ((optional, printed after your name on post))
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It’s said that during life threatening situations, animals will either fight or flee (fight or flight reflex)

I think are two other reflexes: freeze or go into auto-pilot mode (i.e. military or police training)

These students couldn’t flee, they couldn’t fight (due to the overwhelming advantage of the armed gunman) and they had to auto-pilot mode to fall into, therefore, they froze like deer.


27 posted on 04/17/2007 7:51:04 AM PDT by grasshopper2
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Exactly the question I asked myself. I personally do not believe I could just stand by and watch someone shooting and killing other people. If by some chance I survived by hiding and cowering I could not live with that guilt.

This old overweight guy would have tried to do something.

28 posted on 04/17/2007 7:51:30 AM PDT by SledgeCS (A pacifist destroys his weapons and welcomes a non-pacifist into his home - to destroy it.)
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This is just one result of the feminization (i.e., wimpification) of boys all throughout school. Boys are not allowed to fight, are not allowed to play rough, are not allowed to be rambunctious, and basically are not allowed to do anything that boys by nature do.

The result is a classroom full of young adults who allow themselves to be lined up against a wall and shot one after the other. After the first few shots, don’t you think the rest, at least the men, would charge the shooter? That instinct, though, has been indoctrinated out of most college bound males by the time they are adults. (There is the other end of the spectrum, where esp. inner city schools have no control over the kids, but those kids don’t end up in college.)

The resulting submissive attitude is no accident: It’s the sheeple that the wannabe rulers on the left not only want, but need. And the resulting thugs on the other side are also needed to keep the sheeple scared and in line.

PS It’s not right to single out that one 19 year old. He certainly wasn’t the only one who had a chance to do something.


29 posted on 04/17/2007 7:51:53 AM PDT by piytar
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Good question.

Another question: what were the LEA’s, with all their expensive toys, doing?


32 posted on 04/17/2007 7:53:01 AM PDT by starlifter
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There were a set of brothers at one of the highschool shootings that took down a shooter. They were NRA members and understood that having a gun doesn’t make a person invincible. Anybody know of this incident?


33 posted on 04/17/2007 7:53:16 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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