Posted on 04/17/2007 7:39:36 AM PDT by freeplancer
First there was Salt Lake City, and now Virgian Tech. Trey Perkins, a 19 year old student who is now on fox News spewed his story about being in the same room as the gunman while he reloaded his weapons at least once. Did he get up and charge the gunman with reckless abandon to save his fellow students? NO
When the SLC shooting took place, the local news broadcast a cell video of the shooter discharging his weapons. While the owner of the cell phone stood there and filmed the shooter, who coincidently had his back to the camera, he did nothing. Cowards, bystanders, and wimps. I am ashamed and disgusted. Maybe it is my military training or having being in a war zone that makes me know I would take action or die trying.
I would not be jumping out of windows or filming a murderer in action, and I hope to God that whoever reads this would not either. Where are all the men?
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good point.
ps, there’s some kind of disconnect here - half or more of the posters on this board seem to think they would have done something if they were there. Is this board that unrepresentative of a sampling of average college students? Or is that maybe people aren’t as brave as they like to think they’d be?
Great point. Why didn’t they Grand Theft Auto the dude?
He said there was no time to get over the obstacles, ie. the desks thrown down as a barricade. It sure is easy to judge sitting in your comfortable chair typing on a computer. What a leap of logic you make. You hardly have a complete picture, yet you casually talk about foolhardy action. You would have made a great remf general in World War I. The RE in remf stands for rear echelon.
Where are all the men in America? I saw them in the police officers yesterday. I see them going to Iraq and Afghanistan. We still exist no matter what you nattering nabobs of negativism keep spouting.
LOL - good sarcasm - the cops were basically once again a clean up crew. It’s up to the individual to stop a crime against them or their fellow man. Or they can cower and get killed.
It’s said that during life threatening situations, animals will either fight or flee (fight or flight reflex)
I think are two other reflexes: freeze or go into auto-pilot mode (i.e. military or police training)
These students couldn’t flee, they couldn’t fight (due to the overwhelming advantage of the armed gunman) and they had to auto-pilot mode to fall into, therefore, they froze like deer.
This old overweight guy would have tried to do something.
This is just one result of the feminization (i.e., wimpification) of boys all throughout school. Boys are not allowed to fight, are not allowed to play rough, are not allowed to be rambunctious, and basically are not allowed to do anything that boys by nature do.
The result is a classroom full of young adults who allow themselves to be lined up against a wall and shot one after the other. After the first few shots, don’t you think the rest, at least the men, would charge the shooter? That instinct, though, has been indoctrinated out of most college bound males by the time they are adults. (There is the other end of the spectrum, where esp. inner city schools have no control over the kids, but those kids don’t end up in college.)
The resulting submissive attitude is no accident: It’s the sheeple that the wannabe rulers on the left not only want, but need. And the resulting thugs on the other side are also needed to keep the sheeple scared and in line.
PS It’s not right to single out that one 19 year old. He certainly wasn’t the only one who had a chance to do something.
“Is this board that unrepresentative of a sampling of average college students? Or is that maybe people aren’t as brave as they like to think they’d be?”
Yes, and Yes.
If that is your mindset, then I would suppose in the given situation, you are much more likely to act.
I’d also grant that a fair percentage of those who say they’d act in this kind of situation, would do nothing but soil their pants.
No snobbery intended. I’m a public school product. But these kids are the products of today’s public school of sheep herding...........
Good question.
Another question: what were the LEA’s, with all their expensive toys, doing?
There were a set of brothers at one of the highschool shootings that took down a shooter. They were NRA members and understood that having a gun doesn’t make a person invincible. Anybody know of this incident?
Surely you jest!!
Changing diapers while mommy is at work and then attending sensitivity training classes at night.
The real men are currently on active duty.
There was one man, the Jewish professor, who attacked the gunman and though he died, saved the students in his classroom. But then he knew what was at stake, not like the pampered elite he was teaching.
Israeli Professor Murdered As He Saved Students at Virigina Tech Shootings
Judeoscope &Jerusalem Post ^ | 4/17/07
Posted on 04/17/2007 7:03:09 AM PDT by meg88
Israeli professor murdered as he saved students at Vriginia Tech shootings Source: Jerusalem Post
As Jews worldwide honored on Monday the memory of those who were murdered in the Holocaust, a 75-year-old survivor sacrificed his life to save his students in Monday’s shooting at Virginia Tech college that left 32 dead and over two dozen wounded.
Professor Liviu Librescu, 76, threw himself in front of the shooter, who had attempted to enter his classroom. The Israeli mechanics and engineering lecturer was shot to death, “but all the students lived - because of him,” Virginia Tech student Asael Arad - also an Israeli - told Army Radio.
Several of Librescu’s other students sent e-mails to his wife, Marlena, telling of how he blocked the gunman’s way and saved their lives, said the son, Joe.
“My father blocked the doorway with his body and asked the students to flee,” Joe Librescu said in a telephone interview from his home outside of Tel Aviv. “Students started opening windows and jumping out.”
Liviu Librescu, was respected in his field, his son said.
“His work was his life in a sense,” said Joe. “That was a good place for him to practice his research.”
The couple immigrated to Israel from Romania in 1978 and then moved to Virginia in 1986 for his sabbatical, but had stayed since then, Joe told Army Radio.
How do you know that no one tried to do anything? They may have tried and been unsuccesful. Do you know that no one was moving towards the killer to stop him when they were shot?
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