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Microsoft CEO: Vista sales expectations too high
Businessweek Online ^ | 02/15/2007

Posted on 02/15/2007 7:04:00 PM PST by Swordmaker

Microsoft Corp. Chief Executive Steve Ballmer said Thursday that Wall Street's current expectations for revenue from its newest operating system may be too "optimistic."

"I'm really excited about how enthusiastic people are about Vista, but I think some of the revenue forecasts for Vista in 2008 are overly aggressive," Ballmer said in a meeting for financial analysts. "(Vista) is primarily a chance to sustain what (Windows) revenue we have -- not every release is a revenue growing opportunity.". . .

Ballmer also responded to a question about a series of commercials made by smaller computer maker Apple Inc.. . .

"I'll give Apple credit for what it's done," Ballmer said. It's not like they've really grown a lot of market share (through the commercials). Remember, when you're the little tiny niche guy who owns about 2 percent of the worldwide (computer) market, you can be cute one time and it helps you grow."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: lowqualitycrap; microsoft; operatingsystems; vista; windows
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To: antiRepublicrat
HP Pavilion a1730n(RK574AA) Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2GB DDR2 320GB NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE Windows Vista Home Premium - Retail ($749.99 after $50.00 Mail-In Rebate)

See, how can Apple compete with this?

61 posted on 02/16/2007 10:22:02 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Spktyr
I wouldn't try again either.

I would, selling software is pure profit... leave it up the marketing department for the "new spin", they could have the "PC guy" lose some weight and dress up in some nicer clothes... ;)

62 posted on 02/16/2007 10:23:53 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

How many times did you burn yourself on your parents' stove before you learned fire burns? Are you still doing it?

You continue to fail to understand Apple's business model. The OS is a means to sell the hardware. The iTMS is a means to sell iPods.

One without the other simply does not work, in the context of their business plans and in their experience.


63 posted on 02/16/2007 10:28:09 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Then why do they make iTMS for windows?


64 posted on 02/16/2007 10:35:49 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

Um, because that lets them sell more iPods?


65 posted on 02/16/2007 10:37:56 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

well... lots more... PC's in the world... that would sell LOTS of OSX's... "pretty much total profit and at $120 or so a pop" ... now, those customers, MAY purchase a mac on their next machine or just get a PC with OSX again... but, you are still getting $ from them... where before you were getting nothing...


66 posted on 02/16/2007 10:52:03 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

You do know that the development cost of OS X is much more than $120 per copy, right?

Apple would have to sell every copy of OS X for PC at a loss.

So you are proposing that Apple should make a loss on every sale, but make it up with volume?


67 posted on 02/16/2007 11:15:50 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Echo Talon

And that's worked out *soooo* well that driver problems have been eliminated on Windows.... not.


68 posted on 02/16/2007 11:17:10 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

I don't have any "driver" issues. I'm using Vista Ultimate and
my brother just bought a brand new 7.1 pixel Olympus camera I took some pictures and made a little movie, I plugged it in without installing ANY software, Vista recognized it, installed the drivers and asked me where i wanted to transfer the files... easy as pie.


69 posted on 02/16/2007 11:21:59 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Spktyr
You do know that the development cost of OS X is much more than $120 per copy, right?

huh? it's doesn't need "that" must "refinement" MOST of that has already been done for them VIA the hackers on the internet... obviously, they would use their own methods, but the model is already there, OSX already works on PC's... or didn;t you know that?

70 posted on 02/16/2007 11:25:29 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Duke Nukum
If you didn't have a teeny tiny little fragile Mac ego, how could my little quips upset you so much :).

And now you personalize your insults. Way to go, big guy. Real smart. Try using some facts.

By the way, have you ever heard of "projection?" Ask you therapist about it.

71 posted on 02/16/2007 12:19:56 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Echo Talon
See, how can Apple compete with this?

One, by not looking like a piece of junk. Two, by having everything integrated into one essentially thick LCD monitor (yes, comes with monitor). Three, by having a superior OS as opposed to the injured Vista Home Premium. Four, by using the superior Core 2 Duo. Five, gigabit Ethernet. Six, a LOT more useful software. Seven, a high-end mouse. Eight, built-in camera with video conference software. Nine, Bluetooth. Ten, I don't know how much power it sucks, but it's probably a lot more than the 180W for a mid-range iMac (including monitor). BTW, did you know you can wall-mount a 24" iMac with a standard VESA kit?

But what you posted isn't a bad deal if you just want a basic box with decent speed and storage.

72 posted on 02/16/2007 1:08:39 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Echo Talon
They would still have control over their drivers... just like MS does... WHQL anyone?

That's not control. That's just an audit. There are third-party drivers for Mac hardware too.

73 posted on 02/16/2007 1:19:13 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Swordmaker
Apple topped 3% of the world market in December... and 6% of the US Market. 12% of the US laptop market. And growing.

I sign of things to come. I love my new 17" MacBook Pro I won't go back to Windows. The latest reviews of Vista prove that I made the right decision.

74 posted on 02/16/2007 1:23:21 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Echo Talon
Sorry, Echo, but I have to disagree on that one. If Apple wasn't on the radar screen, the Zune wouldn't exist, MS wouldn't have opened their own music store, the Aero desktop wouldn't exist and MS wouldn't have incorporated "Gadgets" on the Vista desktop.

If you haven't read "Business at the Speed of Thought", it's a good read. Gates talks about the future of business, and also about his business philosophy. MS has always operated in a state of controlled paranoia.

75 posted on 02/16/2007 1:45:39 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Swordmaker

I have to say, tweaking Mac users is pretty fun. And that's a fact. It's always fun to tweak a group that has no sense of humor about itself. Or just plain no sense of humor. PETA, Democratics, Mac users, Linux users etc. etc. All good fun.


76 posted on 02/16/2007 2:02:59 PM PST by Duke Nukum (Chickens are part of the natural cycle of life, and that is why we play chickenball in the house.)
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To: Duke Nukum
I don't think most of them know a Mac is only a computer.

The Mac is just a computer - and that's all we want it to be. It does what it's supposed to do, and it just works.

A Windows PC is more than a computer. It's a mind-numbing, virus-breeding, spam-spewing zombie colony.

It's not like it was something cool.

It's only as cool as it's user.

77 posted on 02/16/2007 2:30:37 PM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000
It's only as cool as it's user.

Oh, well, this explains a lot.

78 posted on 02/16/2007 2:42:34 PM PST by Duke Nukum (Chickens are part of the natural cycle of life, and that is why we play chickenball in the house.)
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To: Duke Nukum
And think about the Mac die hard himself, once everyone is a Mac user, how is he going to stroke his little ego and feel part of something special? Mac popularity will cause a schism in the user community and little start-ups will pop up and there will be fifty little Mac micro-brews each claiming to adhere to the One True Faith.

Wow. Your not full of hate or anything are you?

79 posted on 02/16/2007 3:43:03 PM PST by Bronzewound
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To: Bronzewound

Spelling correction. Your = You're


80 posted on 02/16/2007 3:48:52 PM PST by Bronzewound
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