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Defiance angers judge in gang rape
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 05 Jan 07 | Mary Zahn

Posted on 01/06/2007 7:09:04 AM PST by rellimpank

The mother of a boy convicted Friday in the gang rape of an 11-year-old girl on Labor Day told a judge the girl was also to blame and that her son was the victim of "little flipper girls" who think it's cool to have sex with multiple partners.

That prompted Milwaukee County Children's Court Judge Mary Triggiano to abruptly interrupt her.

"What he did was rape that girl," Triggiano said, calling the deflection of responsibility to the girl appalling.

"He got caught. He didn't take responsibility until something pegged him

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: assault; attorney; consent; court; dna; flip; flipper; flipping; gang; gangrape; girl; godless; judge; juvenile; law; milwaukee; morals; rape; sex; sick; underagesex; wisconsin
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To: buck61

It might have had its roots in the 60s, but it came into full bloom in the 80s when the whole "I'm a victim so I'm not responsible for anything I do" philosophy was born--and replayed over and over on shows like Oprah and in the bookstores with a gazillion books telling people that whatever they're doing, it's someone else's fault.


21 posted on 01/06/2007 7:38:04 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Condor 63
There's one dreadful thing after another related to this incident. From the article of 9/9/06:

"Court records portray a motherless girl who longed for a mostly absent father and who tried to do the right thing even when it hurt.

Her mother died of AIDS, leaving her 18-month-old daughter infected with HIV, records state.

"In the latest assault, the girl told police that she had a crush on a 16-year-old girl and went over to her house to visit on Monday. The older girl then directed her to have sex with three teens and a 40-year-old man. When the 11-year-old later went to the basement, she told police, she was confronted by up to 15 other boys and men and performed various sex acts with them."

"A 15-year-old boy has been charged with two counts of party to the crime of first-degree sexual assault. Records show he was placed on one year of probation in October 2004 for possession of cocaine. In August he was placed on one year of probation for auto theft and possession of marijuana.

His mother, records show, is a long-time drug addict who has served time in prison. A relative who became his guardian said that in the past the boy was "living on the street and moving from home to home."

22 posted on 01/06/2007 7:38:59 AM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Perhaps if we started throwing the parents (if known) in jail, they'll start monitoring the activities of their kids.


23 posted on 01/06/2007 7:39:47 AM PST by jess35
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"If anyone has any doubts about how f***ed up our society is, please follow the link and read this story."

This ISN'T "our" society!!!

(What political party is the dominant force in Milwaukee politics? Hmmmmmmm....)

"My baby ain't never hurt nobody."

A triple-negative. So that means...ummmm...

Recommendation #1, mom:

Learn how to speak English.

24 posted on 01/06/2007 7:40:48 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -Pogo)
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To: Baynative

--Milwaukee is one of the few places to have elected a Socialist mayor-years ago--and I mean the political party, not self-styled--


25 posted on 01/06/2007 7:43:39 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Condor 63

"I have my doubts. A lot of people are completely in the dark for what is "hip" these days and what kids are doing behind mom & pop's back."


Take church out of society and this is what you get. Kids seeing this behavior normalized on TV and movies and being told in school that its ok with no guidance from parents is a recipe for disaster.


26 posted on 01/06/2007 7:52:47 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: rawhide
An 11-yr old girl cannot have consensual sex! Period! That is the law!

That is true. And it should (and in this case will) be punished. But don't also pretend that this is quite the same as a rapist violently kidnapping and forcing sex on an innocent girl, threatening her very life. That's a brutal crime of a far different and predatory nature. It just is.

It doesn't excuse this crime at all, but it's OK too for justice to distinguish differences like that, IMO.

27 posted on 01/06/2007 7:52:50 AM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Condor 63
I have my doubts. A lot of people are completely in the dark for what is "hip" these days and what kids are doing behind mom & pop's back.

Well then is it time for the laws to reflect the reality of what is the new morality? Age of consent laws reflect an older morality, that was more Christian in nature. If a Christmas Tree is offensive to some, a morally based law must be much worse? The "Flipper", is certainly a victim under the old morality, but in her culture, if she if freely acting normally, I wonder why waste any more taxpayer money on this? (Yes I do know why, but sometimes one wonders.) It could very well be that everyone involved deserves each other, because it is their culture and morality.

28 posted on 01/06/2007 8:23:35 AM PST by Mark was here (You are guilty of something when you do it, proving your guilt is something else.)
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To: rellimpank
The girl was HIV-positive (got it from her mother, who died of AIDS). Perhaps non-human justice will be visited on these monsters...

The entire story (including sexual assault by a relative when the girl was six or seven -- plus several cases of parental drug addiction) is a screamingly-loud condemnation of a racial culture that is totally corrupt.

29 posted on 01/06/2007 8:25:21 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Mark was here
Well then is it time for the laws to reflect the reality of what is the new morality?

Good question.

Wish I had the answer....

30 posted on 01/06/2007 8:30:38 AM PST by Condor 63
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To: rawhide
An 11-yr old girl cannot have consensual sex! Period! That is the law!

But a 14-yr old boy can?

31 posted on 01/06/2007 8:35:34 AM PST by TN4Liberty (Sixty percent of all people understand statistics. The other half are clueless.)
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To: Sooth2222

I share your outrage. It is almost too much to bear. I live in the area and have heard about this story since it broke.

But we simply can't draw a border and say that this isn't "us" or "ours". We have responsibilities to that poor child and all the others like her. Conservatism is not about not caring, its about showing our care through effective government and respect for the existence non-governmental "little platoons" like religious institutions. God would not forgive us for not being concerned and wanting to make a better world for all our fellow citizens.

Yes, Milwaukee is a liberal hell-hole. This is why its important to fight for our ideas.

I have a decades old friendship with a liberal who is on the staff of a religious school in Milwaukee. We were discussing the War on Terror and suddenly he knee jerked that Bush is "imposing a theocracy". Our friendship ended at that moment. No rational person can look at the events in the inner city of Milwaukee and think that the problem is the imposition of religious beliefs on the citizenry. I can't respect a "religious educator" who thinks that religion is important for the elite kids in his private school, but it wouldn't be right to promote religion elsewhere in society. You are so right, it is his side that brought this about.

We need to make it more and more possible for God to be in the ghetto through love and concern. Any governmental action which breaks down the family or the church has to be opposed and reversed. That is the only solution to this break down in civilization.


32 posted on 01/06/2007 8:42:30 AM PST by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first)
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To: GBA

Why refer to "parents?" Anybody want to bet on the likelihood of a father anywhere around?


33 posted on 01/06/2007 10:01:50 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

WI Ping


34 posted on 01/06/2007 10:52:51 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

That's been a digusting case to follow. Animals.


35 posted on 01/06/2007 10:56:47 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The boy's been duly convicted. Time to release his name.


36 posted on 01/06/2007 11:00:05 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro
The boy's been duly convicted. Time to release his name.

He's ben convicted as a juvenile. The name won't be released.

37 posted on 01/06/2007 11:10:39 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: rellimpank

just day-um...


38 posted on 01/06/2007 3:08:19 PM PST by LongElegantLegs (...a urethral syringe used to treat syphilis with mercury.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

What do we do about it? I really wish I had a good answer. I read the original story and a couple of posts of additional information and wonder if there is any possibility of salvation for anyone involved.


39 posted on 01/06/2007 8:19:37 PM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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