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There is a little Neanderthal in a lot of us
The Telegraph UK ^ | 29/08/2006 | Roger Highfield, Science Editor

Posted on 09/01/2006 8:36:50 AM PDT by patton

People who have large noses, a stocky build and a beetle brow may indeed be a little Neanderthal, according to a genetic study. But the good news is that other research concludes that Neanderthals were much more like us than previously thought.

People of European descent may be five per cent Neanderthal, according to a study published in the journal PLoS Genetics, which suggests we all have a sprinkling of archaic DNA in our genes.

"Instead of a population that left Africa 100,000 years ago and replaced all other archaic human groups, we propose that this population interacted with another population that had been in Europe for much longer, maybe 400,000 years," says Dr Vincent Plagnol, of the University of Southern California, who with Dr Jeffrey Wall analysed 135 different regions of the human genetic code.

They looked at 34 people from Utah with ancestors from Northern and Western Europe and Yoruba people from West Africa. Using statistics and computer modelling, the researchers focused on linkage "disequilibriums", or sections within genes that did not make sense if only modern human matings are considered.

The missing genetic links only fit if some other hominid population is introduced. "We found that a simple model cannot explain the data if we do not add an 'ancestral population'," said Dr Plagnol.

Dr Plagnol explains that different parts of the genome have different ancestry, so an individual could have a fraction of a certain chromosome that is inherited from a Neanderthal, but still have mitochondrial DNA which is "very typical Homo sapiens".

A second study has concluded that Neanderthals were much more like modern humans than had been previously thought, after finds from one of the most famous palaeolithic sites in Europe were re-examined by Bristol University archaeologist, Prof Joao Zilhao, and his French colleagues.

Prof Zilhao has been able to show that sophisticated artefacts such as personal ornaments found in the Châtelperronian culture of France and Spain were genuinely associated with Neanderthals around 44,000 years ago, rather than acquired from modern humans living nearby.

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To: patton
Waxman: A cross between a hyena, pug and a tapir, with a dash of the Phantom of the Opera.

Milkulski: A heady mix of cockroach, baboon and fat sow.
21 posted on 09/01/2006 9:39:14 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

No argument here.


22 posted on 09/01/2006 9:41:55 AM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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Are you part Neanderthal?
Australian Broadcasting Corporation | Wednesday, 23 August 2006 | Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News
Posted on 08/23/2006 1:25:51 AM EDT by SunkenCiv
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23 posted on 09/01/2006 9:48:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

24 posted on 09/01/2006 9:50:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: CarrotAndStick
LOL

Brezhnev had the best monobrow. Ever.

25 posted on 09/01/2006 9:51:06 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: patton

But if they could interbreed and produce fertile offspring, were they really different species? I know the old definition of species would say no, but I think new information may have changed that. Anyone?
susie


26 posted on 09/20/2006 4:27:01 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea
Ah, but could they? I don't know.

And neither does anyone else - yet.

27 posted on 09/20/2006 7:42:34 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton

The article suggests they could, and if they could, that *might* indicate they were the same species (I think).
susie


28 posted on 09/21/2006 6:48:43 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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