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Rare Lincoln Letter Found in Allentown
AP ^ | July 19, 2006 | AP

Posted on 07/26/2006 3:22:50 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

ALLENTOWN, Pa. (AP) - July 19, 2006 - A University of Illinois researcher had discovered a fourth copy of a rare letter Abraham Lincoln had written by to the nation's governors in 1861.

The letter John Lupton found Tuesday in the Lehigh County Historical Society's holdings was one Lincoln wrote as part of an unsuccessful ratification process for a constitutional amendment Congress adopted during the term of his predecessor, President James Buchanan, that would have made slavery the law of the land.

The president remembered for abolishing slavery had been willing to push the amendment as "kind of a carrot to the Southern states" if that would preserve the union, said Lupton, associate director of the Papers of Abraham Lincoln Project of the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency.

"But even by that point, it was too late. By that time, the Southern states felt Lincoln's election was an affront," Lupton said. In fact, the letter discovered in Allentown was addressed to "His Excellency the Governor of the State of Florida," which had seceded from the union two months earlier.

Until Tuesday, only three of the letters were known to have survived. "It's a very cool document," Lupton said.

Joseph Garrera, the historical society director, said he will consult with the society's board to determine the best way to display the document and try to figure out exactly who donated the letter.


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To: mac_truck
i note that YOU never said if the GW/JFK "scam" FOOLED you????

inquiring minds want to know if you're one of the NAIVE folks who bought it, hook/line/sinker.

fwiw, JFK got to look "presidential" & GW got to look "tough on desegregation" (when, IN FACT, he was ANYTHING but a segregationist!). BOTH got exactly what they wanted.

free dixie,sw

381 posted on 08/11/2006 2:44:20 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

You mean you refuse to do your own homework to prove what you have told us is true.

Knowing that would be the case I spent several hours today attempting to find anything that would prove you right or at least would bare some sort of remote resemblance to what you say is the truth.

I can find nothing that indicates that southern heritage groups have ever even attempted any sort of legal action against any known racist group to prevent them from using the Confederate flag to futher the cause of racism.

None what so ever, I then have to believe that you are lying to promote a confederate cause. God only knows what else you have lied about towards those goals.


382 posted on 08/11/2006 4:13:17 PM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: usmcobra
in other words, NOBODY still CARES whether you say that you can find the case cites or NOT.

you've lost again, scalawag.

lol AT you!

free dixie,sw

383 posted on 08/11/2006 8:38:39 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: M. Espinola
Here's another candidate.


384 posted on 08/11/2006 8:45:47 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: stand watie
In other words what you said happened, never DID happen...

Now some would call that fiction,

I'll call it what it is.....A BIG LIE!!!!

Once again I've caught you in another lie.

How many does that make now?
385 posted on 08/12/2006 4:28:36 AM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: stand watie
JFK got to look "presidential" & GW got to look "tough on desegregation" (when, IN FACT, he was ANYTHING but a segregationist!).

The TV networks may have dramatized things, but it was Wallace who orchestrated the event and it was Wallace who appeared on camera NOT Kennedy. It was Wallace who was trying to gain a national reputation, NOT Kennedy who already had one. As to whether Wallace was or wasn't a segragationist in 1963, one need look no further than the Governor's inaugeral address that I posted to you earlier.

i note that YOU never said if the GW/JFK "scam" FOOLED you????

No STAND. I was never fooled by any GW/JFK scam, anymre than I believe in the Easter bunny.

386 posted on 08/12/2006 6:45:03 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: usmcobra
well, since you CANNOT tell truth form a LIE, that would seem to rule you OUT as an arbiter of truth/fiction.

"'fess up", scalawag, for ONE LIE, you NEVER worked a single day at the NOCM, did you??? (CONFESSION is good for the soul.)

CONFEDERATE GROUPS/INSTITUTIONS do NOT hire HATE-filled, REVISIONIST, SCALAWAGS.

free dixie,sw

387 posted on 08/12/2006 7:37:49 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
"don't you get tired of being RIDICULED as a FOOL and/or a HATER/BIGOT????"

Well, don't you Mr. Bates?

388 posted on 08/12/2006 7:41:15 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: mac_truck
your post tells me that you DON'T understand that the JFK/GW "scam" was ORCHESTRATED & RUN out of the kennedy White House!

in other words, you were one of the MANY who were/IS still FOOLED by the "camelot spin machine" of DAMNyankee,ELITIST, remorseless, LIARS. (i'm told that RFK was "into the scam up to his lying eyes" as well.)

in case you wondered where i got my inside information, it was from a senior DUSM, who was THERE & was FORCED to "participate in the little melodrama at the schoolhouse door".

he was DISGUSTED by the OBVIOUS "triumvirate of evil" = JFK/GW/the TV moguls.

free dixie,sw

389 posted on 08/12/2006 7:46:25 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: M. Espinola
yet ANOTHER STUPID, meaningLESS, IGNORANT, post from FR's very own "DUNCE-in-Chief" = "m.eSPINola", the BIGOT & arch-FOOL.

free dixie,sw

390 posted on 08/12/2006 7:48:41 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: M. Espinola
lol AT you!

PLEASE "rant on", as you DAMAGE the unionist cause with every IGNORANT,nitwitted, BIGOTED post that you utter.

free dixie,sw

391 posted on 08/12/2006 7:50:16 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
your post tells me that you DON'T understand that the JFK/GW "scam" was ORCHESTRATED & RUN out of the Kennedy White House!

That is correct, and your posts have offered NOTHING in the way of evidence that Kennedy(s) and Wallace collaborated together behind the scenes of their 1963 desegragation showdown in Tusacaloosa.

You'll have to provide more than unnamed police sources to convince me even a little bit that Kennedy & Wallace conspired together to scam the American public. I can envision Wallace using the media to create a dramatic event (standing in the schoolhouse door) against a big enemy (Kennedy & the Feds) to pump himself up as a national political figure, but I see no motivation for Kennedy to become involved in such a charade other than as an unwitting catalyst.

In fact, all you need to do now is add Marilyn Monroe as their buxom go between and somehow tie this political "love triangle" into a Cuban plot to assassinate the President, and you'll have an excellent plot line for the "alternative history bodice ripper" that you keep threatening to publish...[lol]

you were one of the MANY who were/IS still FOOLED by the "camelot spin machine" of DAMNyankee,ELITIST, remorseless, LIARS.

Sorry STAND, you'll have to come up with a better explanation than 'wanting to look Presidential' to explain why JFK would ever go along with such a far fetched plan. Otherwise your GW/JFK story will remain where it belongs...in the FICTION category...

392 posted on 08/12/2006 11:04:54 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: mac_truck
SORRY, NOT fiction. (without the consent of the retired DUSM i heard this from, first hand, i will NOT tell you his name or anything else that will further identify him.)

JFK was a "star-quality" DECEIVER. he was MOST, of all things, interested in the enhancement/perpetuation of his MYTH (i don't think ANYTHING he did as POTUS was ever, in his eyes, as good as his PT-109 heroism!). i won't call it a "legacy".

GW, otoh, was NOT a segregationist OR a racist. what he was, was a DECEIVER, too. perhaps he & JFK deserved each other!

in any event, the "scam" WORKED, at least on YOU.

free dixie,sw

393 posted on 08/12/2006 11:47:17 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
are you trying to replace "Mr SPIN", the BIGOT & DUMB-bunny, as our main laughingstock of the forum???

free dixie,sw

394 posted on 08/12/2006 12:56:45 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
Perhaps you should admit that you lied about working there, since In proved you knew nothing about where it was or what was in front of it.

But since you'll never admit to getting caught and yet another lie, let's play "KNOW YOUR CONFEDERACY", A game where I ask the questions, and you pretend to know the answers until I prove you don't.

Ready ? Tell me all you know about this strange looking craft.

395 posted on 08/12/2006 1:02:33 PM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: usmcobra
fwiw, i called a friend of mine (about some SCV business) from NEW ORLEANS (Tom was born & raised there,off Canal, near Mercy Hospital. he graduated from Xavier & did his post-graduate work at Loyola/NOLA) & during the conversation, asked him the EXACT QUESTION that you asked me.

his comment, when i told him your EXPECTED answer, was, "I can't believe that he asked a question that was THAT stupid. i've lived here all my life & i wouldn't have thought of THAT being the answer that he wanted. what an IDIOT child!"

so i guess i'm not the only one who thinks that you're either a FOOL/HATER/NITWIT and/or just a little TROLL.

"fess up", "snake", you NEVER worked at the MUSEUM did you??? not even ONE day?? (Tom's comment was: "we don't hire SCALAWAGS or FOOLS to work at our museums.")

we had a GOOD laugh at your expense! (btw, peddle your hateful NONSENSE elsewhere, i'm not buying any.)

lol AT YOU!

free dixie,sw

396 posted on 08/12/2006 1:34:47 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
In other words, you have no clue, what is in the picture I posted.

Want to buy a hint?

I'll give you a hint if you admit that you lied when you said...

"BOTH the UDC & the SCV went to state/federal courts NUMEROUS TIMES over about a 10-year period & sued the racists for desecrating our flag of HEROES & dixie MARTYRS."

If you admit that you lied when you said that on this thread, I'll give you a clue that will assist you so that you can make some sort of wild eyed guess at the picture I posted.

Or do you, STAND WATIE want to take an "I'M THE REAL SCALAWAG" card and find out the answer????

397 posted on 08/12/2006 3:33:18 PM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: usmcobra
have you NOT figured out that i don't CARE what it is OR what you think about ANY subject, SCALAWAG??

truthfully, i didn't bother to look at it.

i'd rather point out to EVERYONE that you are a TURNCOAT, a DUNCE and/or a TROLL.

my respect for your opinions is below ZILCH.

btw, i bet Tom is STILL chuckling at a person who asks such STUPID questions.

do you enjoy being laughed AT???

free dixie,sw

398 posted on 08/12/2006 3:54:56 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
laughing AT you!

free dixie,sw

399 posted on 08/12/2006 4:11:13 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
Actually STAND, we are determining what you know about The subject of the Confederacy, and quite frankly it isn't looking good.

Now I'm going to make my final offer to you, admit you lied and I'll give you enough clues to actual find enough information on the Internet to make it look like you knew what it was all along.

But first for those of you playing along at home our extra special bonus clue:Andrew Jackson rode his horse here

Remember that the "KNOW YOUR CONFEDERACY" play at home extra special bonus clue can only be seen with your specially selected viewer.

400 posted on 08/12/2006 4:19:24 PM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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