Rare Lincoln Letter Found in Allentown

AP ^ | July 19, 2006 | AP

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ALLENTOWN, Pa. (AP) - July 19, 2006 - A University of Illinois researcher had discovered a fourth copy of a rare letter Abraham Lincoln had written by to the nation's governors in 1861.

The letter John Lupton found Tuesday in the Lehigh County Historical Society's holdings was one Lincoln wrote as part of an unsuccessful ratification process for a constitutional amendment Congress adopted during the term of his predecessor, President James Buchanan, that would have made slavery the law of the land.

The president remembered for abolishing slavery had been willing to push the amendment as "kind of a carrot to the Southern states" if that would preserve the union, said Lupton, associate director of the Papers of Abraham Lincoln Project of the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency.

"But even by that point, it was too late. By that time, the Southern states felt Lincoln's election was an affront," Lupton said. In fact, the letter discovered in Allentown was addressed to "His Excellency the Governor of the State of Florida," which had seceded from the union two months earlier.

Until Tuesday, only three of the letters were known to have survived. "It's a very cool document," Lupton said.

Joseph Garrera, the historical society director, said he will consult with the society's board to determine the best way to display the document and try to figure out exactly who donated the letter.

[RaceBannon]

I dont know why he was evasive to you, or if he was just ignoring you.

Remember, while the 3 of us were Freepers for over 5 years, most Freepers of 5 years or more never met or even conversed socially.

So, when you two started calling each other out, neither of you knew the other was an old timer with great credentials! (namely, my sound endorsement) :) (And humility)

So, that means, due to the furious patriotism and love of country and a desire to keep FR cean and free of interlopers and usurpers, you two, not knowing each other before, were ready for armed combat!!

I like that in a man...but I digress...

Anyways, I think a free 3 beers are in order. I dont care what you two drink...

[RaceBannon]

Stand Watie clearly stated why he continues the maniacal idiocy over the name bit. He claimed on one Civil War related thread it was to "irritate Damnyankees" which is beyond typical for that backward, neo-confederate fanatic.

Stand, how many times do I have to tell you, DAMN and YANKEE are 2 different words!!!

[usmcobra]

I'm really not mean spirited or evasive at all, I just can "stand" hypocrites.

To me when someone that has devoted their life to the defense of this country and swore an oath to defend it against ALL enemies foreign and domestic says they want to divide this nation into two parts again through armed rebellion to create a New confederacy for the sake of those few whose only claim to the old confederacy is that they look good in hoods or butternut, is a wee bit hypocritical?

STAND suffers for "Re-enactors Syndrome", it's a common mental disease among grown men that like to dress up in period uniforms and play with toy guns and sleep in tents in the fields of glory. They get so wrapped up in being people that are long dead they often forget the real reason why so many died, the southern Democrats could not win a debate in congress on slavery so they tried to sneak out of this country and broke it into two.

Being a Marine allows me to break things down into simplistic terms almost anyone can underSTAND, well almost anyone could underSTAND that is. STAND has admitted that Democrats ran the south, and he has admitted that slavery was truly evil, now the only thing left for him to do is admit that so many died so that democrats could maintain the evils of slavery and the south and his Re-Enactor's Syndrome might be cured, all he'll have to do then is dress up like Honest Abe for a week and verbal memorize the Gettysburg address to the point where tears flow freely every time he hears it and he'll be cured.

So repeat after me STAND.....

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground.

The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract.

The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here.

It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.


STAND, in truth, Lincoln was talking to the whole nation as it's President, not half but all.

[stand watie]

yet ANOTHER false,ignorant, STUPID post from "Mr SPIN", the LIAR/FOOL/DUNCE and outright BIGOT!

don't you ever get tired of being RIDICULED???

aren't you HUMILIATED that just about everyone on FR thinks that you're STUPID and a BIGOT???

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

NOPE, DAMNyankee is just ONE word.

DAMNyankee describes the HATE-filled,LOUD-mouthed, ARROGANT,abusive, terminally ignorant, 10-15% of northerners, who HATE dixie, her flags, her memorials to her honored dead, her CSA cemeteries, her culture & her wonderful PEOPLE. (fwiw, all southerners are born KNOWING the difference in a "northerner" & a "DAMNyankee"!)

face it, Race the DAMNyankee MINORITY is no better than the worst of racists. if they didn't hate dixie so much, they would be some other sort of BIGOT!

Race, you KNOW that i am extremely fond of MANY of the northerners on FR. but those are NOT DAMNyankees;they are just northerners. FReepers like Dr Raoul,KLT,CYBORG, ELS, Exit 148 & a HOST of other northern FReepers are WONDERFUL people & GOOD friends of mine.

otoh, we have a FEW DAMNyankees on FR, who are GARBAGE in semi-human form & i do not suffer their KNOWING LIES & obvious HATRED of southerners, quietly.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

btw, MOST of the "northerners" on FR are HUMILIATED by the antics, LIES & abusive behavior of the minority of DAMNyankee HATERS, who inhabit FR.

i've had many of them tell me that in person, in e-mails & in PMs.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

in TRUTH, "dishonest abe" was GARBAGE & one of the WORST presidents that the country has ever had. he was PERSONALLY responsible for the NEEDLESS DEATH of a MILLION people, as he INTENTIONALLY chose WAR rather than PEACE with the new dixie republic.

i frequently compare him to "wee willie klintoon", as they were of the same sort. BOTH would DO & SAY ANYTHING to get more POWER & $$$$$$$.

NEITHER had the morals of an alley-cat. it's called "NO MORAL COMPASS"!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

btw, as USUAL, "m.eSPINola" LIED about that too.

if you want to see the OBVIOUS difference between a "northerner" & a "DAMNyankee" & HATER, you need look no farther than the posts of "ELS" & those of "Mr SPIN", the south-HATER!

"ELS" is a WONDERFUL lady from New Jersey, whose posts can ALWAYS be TRUSTED to be TRUTHFUL,factually correct, honorable & DECENT.

otoh, those of "Mr SPIN" the DAMNyankee,ARROGANT FOOL & BIGOT are ALWAYS of a "much different character".

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

"DIShonest abe" AND "wee willie klintoon" BOTH made "fine sounding speeches".

EITHER would have advocated CANNIBALISM as a "life choice", if 2-5% of the voters had wanted to kill & eat people.

PITY that you are "taken in" by what POLITICIANS & SHYSYTER lawyers SAY.

one would think that you were old enough to SEE what people DO is MUCH more important than what they SAY.

free dixie,sw

[usmcobra]

stand, you need to lie down and take a nap before your head explodes.

You take this stuff way too seriously.

I'll pray for you.

[stand watie]

fyi, it is IMPOSSIBLE to take our vanishing LIBERTY "too seriously".

most, if not all, of us southrons started out being "true believers" in the country. SADLY, we have learned that there will NEVER be true FREEDOM as long as we are "UNEQUALLY yoked together" with the SOCIALISTS, LEFTISTS & lunatic financial/media/social/intellectual ELITES of the northeast & the UNelected bureaucrats of the federal government.

the northeastern elites will FOREVER seek ever more intrusions into our schools, churches,private businesses, local governments,families & our personal LIVES.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

fwiw, he didn't ignore me. rather, he LIED to me.

FACT!

free dixie,sw

[usmcobra]

Prove I lied, You can't.

[stand watie]

VERY SIMPLE.

first you said you could post my picture anytime you wanted to AND also that you wanted me to post the picture that you said was NOT on the forum.

the INESCAPABLE conclusion is that you knowingly LIED, one time OR the other. (UNLESS, of course you are so out of touch with REALITY, that you can't remember from one minute to the next what you said. in that possible case, we need to seek you PROFESSIONAL HELP "at a facility, to which you have no suitable key".)

perhaps, you think that being "less than honest" is OK, if you are dealing with someone who is NOT a member of "the DAMNyankee coven of lunatics, haters, weirdos & a BIGOT"???

free dixie,sw

[mac_truck]

You take this stuff way too seriously.

Brother you can say that again. Personally I like seeing STAND dressed up as a Union soldier, it makes me feel like there might be some redemption for his poor deluded soul.

[YCTHouston]

Those words could be said of most of the civil war threaders. Some of them do nothing but post on these topics, and it's always seemed a little surprising to me to see that some of the yankees are just as angry and sometimes more so.

I don't know that I'd say they take it too seriously, for it's a serious topic, but a little civility all around might make the read more interesting for those of us who lurk.

[usmcobra]

Try again STAND, I never said your picture wasn't in the forum only that I wanted you to post yours before I posted mine.


Feel free to point out anywhere on this thread that I said anything otherwise by post number if you can't figure out how to link the particular post of mine

[M. Espinola]

Your admitted long standing association with the likes of neo-Nazi & Klan lawyer, Kirk Lyons, clearly proves you are the one in open league with "a coven of lunatics, haters, weirdos & bigots".

The bait and switch tactics you perpetually pull do not function on here. Too many people know what lurks behind your neo-confederatre mask - something far more ugly.

[stand watie]

MORE evasive, nonsensical BILGE from one of FR's two "SPINmeisters".

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

lol AT you, FOOL!

don't you get tired of being RIDICULED as an IDIOT by the smarter people on BOTH sides of these threads.

you HUMILATE the smarter DAMNyankees, as well as converting "neutrals" into "southrons".

free dixie,sw