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Rare Lincoln Letter Found in Allentown
AP ^ | July 19, 2006 | AP

Posted on 07/26/2006 3:22:50 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

ALLENTOWN, Pa. (AP) - July 19, 2006 - A University of Illinois researcher had discovered a fourth copy of a rare letter Abraham Lincoln had written by to the nation's governors in 1861.

The letter John Lupton found Tuesday in the Lehigh County Historical Society's holdings was one Lincoln wrote as part of an unsuccessful ratification process for a constitutional amendment Congress adopted during the term of his predecessor, President James Buchanan, that would have made slavery the law of the land.

The president remembered for abolishing slavery had been willing to push the amendment as "kind of a carrot to the Southern states" if that would preserve the union, said Lupton, associate director of the Papers of Abraham Lincoln Project of the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency.

"But even by that point, it was too late. By that time, the Southern states felt Lincoln's election was an affront," Lupton said. In fact, the letter discovered in Allentown was addressed to "His Excellency the Governor of the State of Florida," which had seceded from the union two months earlier.

Until Tuesday, only three of the letters were known to have survived. "It's a very cool document," Lupton said.

Joseph Garrera, the historical society director, said he will consult with the society's board to determine the best way to display the document and try to figure out exactly who donated the letter.


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To: usmcobra
in other words, you remain a SCALAWAG, a lunatic & a WILLFULLY CLOSE-minded south-HATER.

PITY!

why not leave FR permanently, head over to DU & sup with persons (MANY of whom used to be members of "the DAMNyankee coven" on FR!),who share your DUMB outlook on life???

take "Mr SPIN", the BIGOT, with you as you dance out the door. NEITHER of you will be missed on FR.

lol AT you.

free dixie,sw

141 posted on 07/31/2006 9:13:18 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
who is standing inside your hollow SHELL, "Mr 0000"????

and tell the TRUTH for once. you NEVER worked a DAY at the NOLA Confederate Museum, did you??? (or did they FIRE YOU, as soon as they found out that you are a SCALAWAG/TURNCOAT???)

lol AT you!

free dixie,sw

142 posted on 07/31/2006 9:33:44 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
actually, what i want from this nation is:

1. a SINCERE & heartfelt APOLOGY for the slaughter of the 92 MURDERED members of MY family and for those of ALL the OTHER families, whose loved ones were RAPED/ROBBED/ASSAULTED/TOUTURED/MURDERED, by "the filth that flowed down from the north",

2.that congress pass & the POTUS sign, a law establishing a "National Day of Prayer,Mourning & Contrition" (to be designated & observed annually) for the ATROCITIES committed in the name of the USA during the WBTS,

3. the south-HATING,radical REVISIONIST BILGE removed from all public school textbooks,

4. that the "lincoln memorial" be removed from VA, and

5. the federal government simply get OUT of our schools, homes, churches & synagogues & out of our LIVES for GOOD.

those things would "bind up the bleeding wounds" of so MANY southerners.

free dixie,sw

143 posted on 07/31/2006 9:59:36 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
STAND as promised I am deleting every private message you send me from here on out.

If you can't say it in this forum I don't want to read what you have to say.
144 posted on 07/31/2006 10:03:16 AM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: usmcobra
frankly, i didn't want to EMBARRASS, you with what i was told about your alleged service. so i thought i'd ask you privately.

free dixie,sw

145 posted on 07/31/2006 2:31:31 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
Knowing that you, a life member of The SCV are part of the election process (an election judge) in South Carolina is enough to guarantee that The NAACP will always be able to claim that blacks are disenfranchised whenever they try to vote.

Anything you want to say to embarrass me about my service to this country, you can say in an open forum, but you better be able to back up whatever you say with verifiable proof from a reliable source, such as The United States Marine Corps.

146 posted on 07/31/2006 3:45:09 PM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: usmcobra
IF i had the PROOF, i would have posted it. what i have is a PM from a person whose claims i do NOT know how to assure are TRUTHFUL.

that's why i tried to ask YOU.

UNLIKE the members of "the DAMNyankee coven of lunatics, haters, weirdos & at least ONE BIGOT", i do NOT assume everything that someone says is FACTUAL, just because i don't personally like the other person. (for example, "mac_truck" is evidently dumb enough to believe a KNOWN liar, just because he doesn't LIKE me. thus he believes ANYTHING that someone says that is NEGATIVE & NOTHING that is POSITIVE. it's called UNthinking, ignorant,PREJUDICE!)

147 posted on 07/31/2006 8:53:25 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
IF i had the PROOF, i would have posted it. what i have is a PM from a person whose claims i do NOT know how to assure are TRUTHFUL.

that's why i tried to ask YOU.

UNLIKE the members of "the DAMNyankee coven of lunatics, haters, weirdos & at least ONE BIGOT", i do NOT assume everything that someone says is FACTUAL, just because i don't personally like the other person. (for example, "mac_truck" is evidently dumb enough to believe a KNOWN liar, just because he doesn't LIKE me or my message. thus he believes ANYTHING that someone says that is NEGATIVE & NOTHING that is POSITIVE. it's called UNthinking, ignorant,PREJUDICE!)

free dixie,sw

148 posted on 07/31/2006 8:55:12 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
fwiw, the members of the "leadership" of the "naaLcp" are ALWAYS going to claim "disenfranchisement" because they are ONLY interested in PERSONAL political POWER & $$$$$$$$.

TRUTH,morality,integrity, fairness & the WELFARE of the common members is NOT on the agenda of the "leaders". the "leadership" serves ONLY the "leaders"! (that is the MAIN reason i left the NAACP membership.)

btw, i'll give your UNknowing, arrogantly ignorant, personal opinions all the respect those OPINIONS deserve = NONE.

free dixie,sw

149 posted on 07/31/2006 9:02:21 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
STAND you've never needed proof before, so why bother with it now?

After all with all the vile and insulting things (by your standards) you said about me in the past what's a few more rumors from a suspicious source with a malicious intent bent on ruining my Internet reputation.(I can't believe I said that with a straight face, giggling like a madman is effervescing in my throat).

Go ahead STAND hit me with whatever you have, anything you got that comes from someone that doesn't have the balls to say it themselves, isn't going to hurt me at all, and if you are willing to be his puppet and proxy, so be it.

That is of course, if you have anything at all, and aren't bluffing your way out of a jam once again.

150 posted on 08/01/2006 4:08:45 AM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: stand watie; mac_truck
Just so you know, I pinged mac truck to this thread since you didn't have the courtesy to do so when you started to run off at the mouth about him.

"mac_truck" is evidently dumb enough to believe a KNOWN liar,"

Since I believe that all the information mac_truck has gathered on you has come from what you have told everyone about yourself, wouldn't you be the KNOWN liar, you are talking about????

STAND, time to put up or shut up and show us what you got, I don't even need to know who told you what, since I going to assume you are making it up as you go along anyway.....

151 posted on 08/01/2006 6:00:53 AM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: usmcobra
actually, what the "expose" consisted of was what the "author" SAID that i had said. in actuality he made the MAJORITY of the "expose" up. that is why he got BANNED permanently.

the "mods" didn't have a lot of "sense of humor" about a KNOWN LIAR attempting to ruin someone's reputation, absent ANY proof of his allegations. when a "nice lady of the forum " pointed out several instances of portions of the "expose", which had been "modified" to say something other than what was obviously meant "in context", he was GONE. (btw,there's a word for that too. it's called LYING!)

what i said to "mac" about people, who believe "the WORST" of others, based on whether he personally LIKES them or not, goes for YOU "in spades".

such people are called BIGOTS, by "fair-minded persons"

free dixie,sw

152 posted on 08/01/2006 7:30:00 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie; usmcobra; All
Your claiming to "know" why someone got banned is about as credible as the rest of the crap you post ad nauseum on these forums. Unless (of course) you went to the mods in the first place. But you would NEVER do that, because YOU regularly CHASTISE the people who complain about YOU as being WIMPS who cannot defend themselves...

Frankly, your pathetic need for ATTENTION has caused you to embroider the truth over the years or make up from whole cloth many "facts" which, when put together now, contradict one another in a quite humorous fashion. IOW your self aggrandizing stories(just like your bizarre perception of history) do not pass the "sniff" test, although when strung together they make for some enjoyable reading. Link.

My conclusion is that your constant spamming of these threads is symptomatic of a larger psychological problem, perhaps some form of Munchausen's symdrone, which would be more humorous if it weren't so..sad.

Get some professional help chief, or paint yourself blue and jump off a cliff. It really doesn't matter to me.

153 posted on 08/01/2006 8:33:55 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: mac_truck
another DUMB-BUNNY post that makes KNOWLEDGEABLE, educated, FReepers lol AT you.

pardon me, but your ignorant PREJUDICE is showing.

you would be MUCH happier over on DU. why not head over there TODAY. they will welcome you with "OPEN ARMS". (btw, i'm told by someone i trust that your "author" of the "expose" is a member of DU & very active with Whisky Papa, cvn76, #3fan & a HOST of other BANNED ex-FReepers. ALL of them are former members of the "DY coven". NONE of them are "rebs".)

you'll feel "right at home" & nobody on DU will RIDICULE you or "hurt your poor, little feelings", by pointing out that you evidently are "mentally challenged" & a BIGOT/south-HATER/fool.

free dixie,sw

154 posted on 08/01/2006 8:49:47 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie; usmcobra
actually, what i want from this nation is...

Too much trouble. How about we just give you a forum where you can flap your gums and complain about how it would be sooooo much better in that tin-horn, despotic, banana-republic that the confederacy was on a path towards becoming?

155 posted on 08/01/2006 8:56:00 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
IF "lincoln, the clay-footed, secular saint of DAMNyankeeland" had survived Booth's bullet, he might well have destroyed the REPUBLIC & made the whole nation into a "tin-horn,despotic,banana-republic", given his interest in:

1 locking up people who disagreed with him up without warrant/indictment, or even a SHAM trial,

2. confining both civilians (who had done NOTHING UNlawful) and prisoners of war in CONCENTRATION CAMPS to be starved/assaulted/raped/denied food,clothing,medical care/murdered in cold blood,

3. enforcing the laws that agreed with and IGNORING the ones that would have restrained his excesses &

4. surrounding himself with a bunch of "yes men", who NEVER tried to "rein him in" regardless of how dishonest, immoral, hate-FILLED and/or UNwise his inclinations were,

YEP, "DIShonest abe" might well have taken the WHOLE of the USA into "dictatorship".

free dixie,sw

156 posted on 08/01/2006 9:08:29 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
YEP, "DIShonest abe" might well have taken the WHOLE of the USA into "dictatorship".

Sorry but every single action you mentioned was done by Jefferson Davis.

157 posted on 08/01/2006 9:39:54 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
SORRY, but EVERY ONE of those things WERE DONE by "DIShonest abe", WITHOUT any REASON, other than EGOMANIA, GREED & IMMORALITY. just as the WAR he started KILLED a MILLION Americans for NO good reason. NONE!

as i've said before, "lincoln the clay-footed, secular saint of DAMNyankeeland" was JUST LIKE wee willie klintoon.

BOTH would do ANYTHING for $$$$$$$ & POWER. ANYTHING!

as for President Davis, he didn't even WANT to be POTCSA. instead he wanted to be a GENERAL in the PACSA. (YOU, UNlike the rest of the unionists here, are smart enough to KNOW that.)

free dixie,sw

158 posted on 08/01/2006 9:46:11 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
So in other words you have no problems with people being locked up without trial, laws ignored, constitutions being trashed, and civilains being murdered so long as it was the confederacy doing all that?

as for President Davis, he didn't even WANT to be POTCSA. instead he wanted to be a GENERAL in the PACSA.

Instead the confederacy got a twofer. An incompetent as president acting as an incompetent commander in chief. Jeff Davis did more to win the war for the Union than Sheman and Grant combined.

159 posted on 08/01/2006 9:52:09 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
btw, i'm told by someone i trust...

Ah, another of those mysterious, unverifiable "sources" that you constantly trot out. Is this the same one who told you that I'd been banned?

Or is it, like I suspect, another of those pesky voices in your head?

160 posted on 08/01/2006 10:41:19 AM PDT by Heyworth
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