Posted on 06/12/2006 9:24:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
The hypothesis that Jesus Christ is buried in central Srinagar, the summer capital of Indian-administered Kashmir, has aroused a lot of interest among historiographers, researchers, scholars, archaeologists and religious groups both in India and worldwide once again. A team of German researchers, including two archaeologists, is planning to visit Srinagar later this year to investigate the subject.
Within India, the political party known as the Janata Party has set up a group of experts from among its members which would be coming to Kashmir's summer capital soon to start research work. The party's president, Dr Subramanian Swamy, who was in Srinagar last week, said that after reading a booklet by a German he has a "feeling of curiosity" about Jesus Christ and Moses having visited Kashmir and in the belief that both had died and are buried in the Valley.
Muslims in Kashmir and elsewhere revere both Jesus and Moses as "noble prophets" of "Bani Israel" (Children of Israel), as the Koran makes a number of references to them. Swamy also pointed to the belief of many Kashmiris that they were one of the "Lost Tribes" of Israel.
"It is a matter of great interest that Prophet Moses is buried in Kashmir and that Jesus too had visited the Valley, went to Ladakh to visit the Hemis monastery where he took Buddhism as his faith, returned home but left it again for Kashmir to escape persecution, and died here in Srinagar," he said. The Janata Party leader said that the team he has set up would do methodical research on the subject and come out with its findings "which everybody in the country would be interested in."
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"In order to make the claim that "Christianity and Eastern religion are much alike", you find it necessary to throw out 2,000 or so years of Christian teaching and thought, including (explicitly) the Death and Resurrection of Christ."
Firstly, how much do you know about what you broadly club as "Eastern mysticism" in order to make the above claim that there is absolutely nothing common between the two?
Do you know that the Persians had a God called Mithra whose concept was borrowed from Krishna and also the a lot of things about Jesus is very similar to both Krishna and Mithra.
You claimed that "Christianity and Eastern religion are much alike, here's some books saying Jesus went to India."
I read the capsule descriptions and they claim that Jesus did not die during the crucifixion, and went to India instead of being Resurrected.
What you claim about the historicity of those accounts, is not my point. My point is that such accounts are explicitly NOT those of Christianity.
And, as I posted earlier, Jesus himself is quoted in all four gospels predicting his death, giving his life for the world, and coming to life again.
And those points are CENTRAL to Christianity, as they are not CENTRAL to any other religion I have heard of...and therefore the similarities are not as striking to me as the differences.
Cheers!
Perhaps this is why Islamofascists want to slaughter Hindus. Isn't that black rock in Mecca the stone once kept in a Hindu temple on that same site? And wasn't al al'elah a minor moon goddess in the Hindu pantheon?
To the above, no, and no. Ridiculous.
And, as I posted earlier, Jesus himself is quoted in all four gospels predicting his death, giving his life for the world, and coming to life again.
And those points are CENTRAL to Christianity, as they are not CENTRAL to any other religion I have heard of...and therefore the similarities are not as striking to me as the differences.
Resurrection is a very recurrent theme in many religion especially in Hinduism. Which is why I asked you how much do you know about the " any other religion " that you talk of.
I dont know if you know this or not but Christianity came to India far earlier then it reached Rome, (far earlier then the Roman Catholic Church came into existance). In fact the older eastern Chruches in southern India are one of the most prestine Christianity you will find anywhere. They preserve a lot of the original teachings and beliefs of Christ. Modern day Catholics, Protestants and Bapstist consider them to be heretics who need to be converted or "saved". They are not recognised as Christians.
You probably know this for fact that Bible (old Testament) was first written in Persia. Persia and India were the two places where the Vedic Aryans first settled. The Zenda Avestan and Vedic-Sanskrit cultures were almost the same, the two even shared a common linguistic heritage. Both cultures has the concept of Heaven and Hell, God and Satan, Demi Gods and Demons, personified Good and Evil etc.
"And wasn't al al'elah a minor moon goddess in the Hindu pantheon?"
Which goddess is that?
Pinging you again to an interesting discussion.
BTW The Trinity is actually a Hindu concept.
Well, the 10 tribes were mostly sent to different parts of the Assyrian empire, away from their homeland and they wouldnt' have been allowed to band up. remember that the nortern tribes were practically following the religions of the canaanites and other neighbours, so they most likely got assimilated amongst those peoples. The lost tribes descendents would be found amongst the present day peoples of Iraq, Syria and Jordan.
Note that these are Islamic beliefs. Islam is derived from Gnosticism and Arianism, so they would try hard to portray that Jesus never was crucified
Actually Mithra is older than Krishna -- he's an Aryanic god mentioned in the Vedas and the Avestan.
Hindu -- the term itself comes from the Persian meant to denote everyone who lived in the Indian subcontinent east of the Indus river.
Not really -- the emergence of the concept of the Hindu trinity is post-christian nestorian influence. Remember that Hindu thought was in flux after the falure of Buddhism in the 2nd century and 3rd century AD with the rise of the Nandas and others. That's about the period when VEdic Hinduism is slowly subsumed by Brahmanical Hinduism and the primitive Aryan gods (like Indra, Varuna, Agni) are displaced by more philosophically richer (and I agree that most of THAT philosophy is purely Indian in thought) Hinduism revolving around Vaishnavite thought.
No, the worldwide symbol of Christianity is the Cross.
Kinda hard to miss.
And not only did you gloss over Jesus' own quotes about his death and resurrection, you are completely incorrect about "but an imagery."
In that case from a rational point of view I would ask you how would it be possible for Jesus to die and then be "Resurrected"?
Umm, that's why it's *called* a miracle, and pointed to as a great work of God. D'oh.
Resurrection is a very recurrent theme in many religion especially in Hinduism.
Yes, but Jesus' Resurrection is held up as a specific occurrence for a very specific purpose (the sinless destroying death by His death and resurrection), prophesied beforehand, and not as part of a pattern in the great circle of life.
(far earlier then the Roman Catholic Church came into existance)
There was Christianity in Judea and the environs first of all; and Saul of Tarsus helped spread it far and wide; all before the Roman Catholic Church assumed formal organization...
Both cultures has the concept of Heaven and Hell, God and Satan, Demi Gods and Demons, personified Good and Evil etc.
Yup. But the Hebrew Scriptures pointed to Jesus, specifically...and Jesus Himself said so. But you choose to ignore that.
Cheers!
How dare they rip off the Japanses.
(/sarcasm)
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