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Rape Accuser Had Photo ID'd Possible DNA Match
NBC CHANNEL 17 ^ | 5/11/06

Posted on 05/11/2006 9:17:59 PM PDT by TexKat

DURHAM, N.C. -- A Duke lacrosse player whose DNA may match tissue found under the fake fingernails of an exotic dancer who claims she was raped was identified in a photo lineup with 90 percent certainty, sources tell NBC-17.

The Durham Herald-Sun reported Thursday tissue found under the accuser's acrylic fingernail came from the same genetic pool and was "consistent" with the bodily makeup of one of 46 lacrosse players who gave DNA samples for testing.

The paper cites several sources and said scientists also ruled out a possible match with any of the other 45 students, according to the sources.

If accurate, the fingernail tissue match would offer the first DNA evidence potentially linking the dancer and an alleged attacker.

But because a complete DNA pattern was not obtained from the tissue, it was not possible to match it with the nearly 100 percent certainty that DNA results usually offer, the sources added.

90 Percent Certainty

Now, NBC-17 has learned that the player is not one of the two already accused in the case -- Reade Seligmann, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, of Garden City, N.Y. He is, however, a player that the alleged rape victim picked out in a police lineup with 90 percent certainty.

The 27-year-old North Carolina Central University student told police she was beaten and raped by three lacrosse players while she performed at a March 13 team party. She said she clawed at the players in an effort to fight them off.

Never Applied?

Defense attorneys claim, however, that nothing about the reported possible DNA match means anything to the case if you look at the type of fingernails, where they were found, and if you look at a picture of the accuser's hand shortly after she arrived at the party.

According to defense attorneys, police found four stick-on acrylic fingernails in a trashcan at 610 Buchanan Street, the house where the party took place. The tissue connected to the possible DNA match was found under one of those fingernails.

But defense attorneys said the third player accused lived at the house and it is no surprise that trace amounts of his DNA could be found inside his own trashcan. They also said they don't believe the type of fingernails that were found -- the kind that are applied with an adhesive strip -- actually ripped off during an attack. They don't believe the fingernails were ever applied and they say they have pictures to prove it.

NBC-17 has seen a picture of the dancer's hand at the house when she performed her dance routine. It appears that long, fake fingernails were on some of her fingers in that photo, but not all of them.

Other photos show what defense lawyers believe is red fingernail polish on the walls of the house and on the railing outside the house. They believe the accuser was painting and applying her nails while at the party.

Defense attorneys admit that none of them have seen the DNA report the Herald Sun article is based upon, but they said if District Attorney Mike Nifong has the DNA report, their clients are entitled to see it.

Accuser's Father Responds

The accuser's father called reports of a DNA break in the case long overdue.

"I wasn't surprised to hear that. I feel like we should have learned it before," he said.

Kim Roberts, another dancer who performed at the party where the alleged attack took place, paid an emotional visit to the accuser's parents on Thursday.

"It was real emotional -- she was crying, my wife was crying. She said that she was sorry she left (outside) the house before my daughter did," the accuser's father said.

Authorities said they would know what the DNA shows by early next week.


TOPICS: Local News; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: daysofourlives; duke; dukelax; durham; thedukesaga
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To: Neverforget01
She probably left them on the sink or something and one of the boys threw them in the basket. That would be a norm.

If one of these nails come off, there is always some sticky residue on the underside of the "false" nail. You take the old sticky off your real nail, put a new sticky on your real nail and press the false nail on.

I suppose I'll get a set tomorrow to prove the common scenario. Now, how hard do I scratch?? I stopped using them BECAUSE they come off so easily. Sometimes they even fall off in the spaghetti sauce!! :-) (Never did find that one!!)

21 posted on 05/11/2006 10:19:26 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
I did try those back in the day, and you have to walk around like you have wet nails. You know hands in the air, because the minute you try to do normal chores, they lift off. If you try typing by the time you are done they are all sitting up on your fingers, away from your finger tips
22 posted on 05/11/2006 10:22:32 PM PDT by Repub4bush (Congratulations Tony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Publius22; Howlin; All

This is what happens when you go on 1.5 hours of sleep.

IF this is correct, it's David Evans in hot water.

"Sutton said Nifong, in meetings with lawyers, had specifically cleared her client, Matt Zash, and co-captains Dan Flannery and Bret Thompson"
http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/story/5673991p-5087932c.html

Someone Private Mailed me and told me the above statement was wrong and there was other errors in the article. But, rereading it she's not saying Flannery is her client, and the other reported 'Error' in the article is accurate info..
So, I'm inclined to believe the NYT.. (never thought I'd say that).

I need sleep, you guys figure it out.


23 posted on 05/11/2006 10:24:59 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Sacajaweau
Sometimes they even fall off in the spaghetti sauce!! :-) (Never did find that one!!)

Lol, reminds me of when I was mixing up meatloaf ingredients not too long ago and discovered a few hours later I had broken and was missing a real fingernail. Oops!

24 posted on 05/11/2006 10:26:52 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: OakOak

I was just about to say sorry for repeatedly posting that I thought it was Flannery.


25 posted on 05/11/2006 10:34:42 PM PDT by Waterfall
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To: Repub4bush

I only wore them on special occasions but always carried extra nails and stickies in my purse....in case I scratched the waiter.


26 posted on 05/11/2006 10:37:07 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Waterfall

Wasn't Butch Williams hugging Nifong when he got elected? I hope Flannery is getting new representation.


27 posted on 05/11/2006 10:52:09 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the DBM)
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To: All
This is the old shell game and we're looking at the wrong DNA. We should be looking for HER DNA..hair, clothing fibers, body fluids on the rug and/or bathroom floor.

Why haven't they posted a layout of the bathroom or at least the size of it. These aren't little boys and I'd guess they would need about 8 X 3 feet of clear space to engage in rape.

And where was "Mother of the Year" BEFORE she went to Duke's....not an inkling for us. No... Earlier in the day, she went to ...........

28 posted on 05/11/2006 10:56:42 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Waterfall

Flannery--Another Garden City, NY boy.


29 posted on 05/11/2006 11:03:06 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the DBM)
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To: Neverforget01; Waterfall

You guys thinking Flannery,, I'm thinking it's Evans
David Evans, that would pit Joseph Cheshire against the Nifong.

I got that PM that told me that article (NYT) was all wrong, but re-reading it I couldn't find errors.

What are you basing Flannery on (for discussion purposes only) .. I know we'll probably find out Monday.


30 posted on 05/11/2006 11:16:59 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak
WENDY MURPHY SAID ON TUCKER CARLSON THAT THE AV WAS ORALLY SODOMIZED!


Hope you weren't eating breakfast !!!

31 posted on 05/11/2006 11:25:11 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Neverforget01; Waterfall; Howlin; ladyjane; Publius22; All

Wendy Murphy (5/11) on Tucker Carlson:

"I'll bet you there's going to be someone named DAN indicted on Monday"
endquote

IF TRUE, Memo to Kerry Sutton: Mike Nifong lied to you.
Mrs. Sutton - Care to change your statements in support of him for re-election?

In this Link, Sutton says Nifong told her Dan Flannery has been "Cleared":
http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/story/5673991p-5087932c.html

"Sutton said Nifong ...had specifically cleared her client, Matt Zash, and co-captains Dan Flannery and Bret Thompson"


32 posted on 05/11/2006 11:33:34 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak
I've been trying to catch up.... you guys are going fast tonight...

I have a question... How do they know the fingernails belonged to the AV...??

33 posted on 05/11/2006 11:44:41 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: darbymcgill

Crystal said her Red, Polished fingernails were ripped off in the attack as she fought to breath.

Nifong said 4, Red, Polished nails were recovered at the scene, consistent with the accuser's account.


34 posted on 05/11/2006 11:46:35 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: darbymcgill

They were found in the bathroom trashcan.. one reportedly has DNA


35 posted on 05/11/2006 11:47:24 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak
Nifong said 4, Red, Polished nails were recovered at the scene, consistent with the accuser's account.

Did they find any of her DNA on them?

Another question... did we ever resolve the question that she named 4 boys as attackers instead of 3? I re-read the ID process and she appears to name 4.... both 4 and 5, then RS and CF... Has that been resloved?

36 posted on 05/11/2006 11:54:38 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: darbymcgill

I don't know about her DNA.
To my knowledge, the ID discrepancy is outstanding and unchanged.


37 posted on 05/12/2006 12:01:18 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: All; darbymcgill

These kids are getting screwed, big time.

I'm late to the game, but Looking over the ID transcript,,


This is why someone NOT involved in the investigation is
supposed to admister the ID procedure.

Look how the Main investigator gets HIS answer from the
AV:

Image 26
Victim:
He was in the Living Room

Sgt:
He was in the Living Room?

Victim:
Sitting down.

Sgt:
Do you recognize him? I'M SORRY, YOU SAID HE WAS IN THE LIVING ROOM?

Victim:
I meant the Master Bedroom

The Lead Investigator (Sgt) led the AV right into his answer. Otherwise, she'd look confused and her story would conflict. He's keeping her on track.

That's why the Policy says to use someone NOT INVOLVED in the investigation to admister the ID process.


38 posted on 05/12/2006 12:03:38 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: TexKat

""It was real emotional -- she was crying, my wife was crying. She said that she was sorry she left (outside) the house before my daughter did," the accuser's father said."

I've had an allergy-related cough lately. I'm happy to learn that my gag reflex is as good as ever.


39 posted on 05/12/2006 12:25:27 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: OakOak

Does Dave Evans live at the Buchanan property?


40 posted on 05/12/2006 12:28:35 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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