[gondramB]

It boggles my mind how two guys who grew up so close together could wind up so far apart. I didn't even try to change his mind about anything - that train has left the station.

Well, actually I did tell him that I was certain that Al Quaida was behind 9/11 and that we had identified all the hijackers but it had no effect. This experience left me feeling quite pessimistic. I just don't understand how this set of beliefs are possible.

[areafiftyone]

It's called Brainwashing - ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION IT'S A CULT! Every Cult brainwashes you into believe what they want you to believe!

[jigsaw]

Lucky you didn't have a Koran hanging on the wall for toilet paper!

[pissant]

Idiot. Fortunately, my experience with Muslims in this country gives me hope.

[heartwood]

Was this guy white or black or what?

He should have a year long tour of Islamic lands. Maybe reality would sink in.

Mass paranoia, conspiracy nuts. Even just one gives me the willies.

[ncountylee]

The mindless followers of an illiterate, mass murdering pedophile...what do you expect?

[Pan_Yans Wife]

I wouldn't be too pessimistic, if I were you. How many uneducated Muslims who are being used by their faith actually know reality when it stares them in the face? They don't question what the imams say, or what they learn at the massadras in general. There are those, who DO seek out reality. But, when education is lacking, it is very hard to reach the surface.

Remember, 50 million people have been liberated in Iraq! That more than makes up for the ignorance of the plumber you met, today. (Did he acknowledge that the Iraqis' freedom was a positive thing?)

[EagleUSA]

Pipe bombs, anyone??

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My Islamic Plumber

Great idea for a new sitcom.

[wallcrawlr]

Pakistan will join the war on Iran's side.

hmmmm....really?

[chapin2500]

Sounds like a closed minded liberal. No discussion of current events are possible. Ever!

[Rummyfan]

There are millions of people ready to die for Islam. They are all peaceful. Islam means peace. But when it clicks that the final war has started they will die for Islam.

And if it comes to it, we should be happy to accommodate them!

A Baptist convert to Islam. There's one born every minute. It never ceases to amaze me that anyone Westerner could convert to this cult. Before conversion, anyone considering it should spend a month in Saudi Arabia!

[muir_redwoods]

"But when it clicks that the final war has started they will die for Islam."

He's right about that, die they will.

On another note,I wouldn't let a moron like this work on plumbing in my house, I would leave him in charge of a used match.

[Noumenon]

It's fatal blindness.

Islam is incapable of reforming itself.

Draw your own conclusions.

[Hetty_Fauxvert]

3. The President of Iran is saying those things about Israel and the bomb to get President Bush to attack Iran. He (the Iranian president) doesn't care about his life or the lives of Iranians - he cares about the after-life.

It's interesting, the rest of his screed was patently ridiculous, but this echoes something that I've seen in several articles on this very site. Perhaps we should pay attention to this bit of Muslim "word on the street."

Thanks for posting this, btw. Informative though a little scary.

[Clemenza]

Let me guess: he was of "African" descent, like most U.S. Muslim converts?

Don't know of the black folks in your area, but I hear stuff like this from NON MUSLIM African Americans all the time, along with "AIDS was invented by the white man to kill black people" and "Bush stole the election."

[bayouranger]

Has he served time as a convicted felon?

[Jaysun]

You should have took one for the team on this one, cut his brake lines or something.

[FreedomPoster]

2nd the "it's not a conventional religion, it's a cult" comments.

One that is diametrically and irreconceivably opposed to Western ideas of individual rights and freedoms at that. And completely intertwined with the political realm.

[grey_whiskers]

Congrats, gondramB!

I've decided to make your thread the subject of my next Daily Political Limerick...

Cheers!

[AntiGovernment]

Nobody at the mosque thinks Muslims could do 9/11. You have to look at who benefitted - we didn't benefit. The people who want war and wire tapping benefitted.

Germany didn't benefit from World War II, it lay shattered in ruins, while the United States prospered. Therefore, Germany can't have started World War II.

The suicide bombers aren't Muslims. Muslims can't kill women.

Yes, only beating women is permissible, or shooting them in the head when they refuse to wear a headscarf. By the way, I think the underlying message is that Muslims are perfectly capable of killing innocent men, even though your plumber is no terrorist.

The President of Iran is saying those things about Israel and the bomb to get President Bush to attack Iran. He (the Iranian president) doesn't care about his life or the lives of Iranians - he cares about the after-life.

Correct. He seeks to bring chaos and destruction, to see the return of the 12th imam.

A world war is coming and the war with Iran will be part of what sets it up - Syria and Pakistan will join the war on Iran's side.

In his dreams.

There are millions of people ready to die for Islam. They are all peaceful. Islam means peace. But when it clicks that the final war has started they will die for Islam.

Thank God, let them get themselves killed.

Ayatollah Khomeni captured the Shah of Iran and castrated him and paraded his head through the streets.

Historically incorrect, yes, but let's look at the stuff this guy made up. It seems as if liking gore (as well as Gore) is in Muslims' genes.

Muslims are peaceful people who just want to live a simple life. But when people stop them from living that life, when people won't leave them alone, they have to fight. They have to jihad.

BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!