Posted on 04/18/2006 1:35:19 PM PDT by gondramB
We have a home warranty and today they assigned a plumber to fix a couple of toilets. There were some complications so we had a long while to talk - it was very eye opening.
The plumber is a polite guy, born and raised in Atlanta as a Baptist about 5 miles from where I grew up. He is a convert to Islam and says he attends the largest mosque in Atlanta.
Some of the things he said just blew me away and I wanted to share. This isn't somebody from a foreign country - he is a native Georgian.
He said (and he was very matter of fact about all this as if none of it would possibly be disputed)
1. There was no way 9/11 was done by Muslims. Bin Laudin always claims responsibility when he does something and he said right away he didn't do it. Everybody at the mosque knows the tapes where he supposedly said he did it were unintelligible and the translation was fake. Nobody at the mosque thinks Muslims could do 9/11. You have to look at who benefitted - we didn't benefit. The people who want war and wire tapping benefitted.
2. The suicide bombers aren't Muslims. Muslims can't kill women. You can kill a child before you can kill a woman. Jihad has to be fought with your chest - out front, not with your side or your back. I don't know who is doing the bombings but everybody at the mosque is sure it isn't Muslims.
3. The President of Iran is saying those things about Israel and the bomb to get President Bush to attack Iran. He (the Iranian president) doesn't care about his life or the lives of Iranians - he cares about the after-life. A world war is coming and the war with Iran will be part of what sets it up - Syria and Pakistan will join the war on Iran's side.
4.There are millions of people ready to die for Islam. They are all peaceful. Islam means peace. But when it clicks that the final war has started they will die for Islam.
5. Ayatollah Khomeni captured the Shah of Iran and castrated him and paraded his head through the streets. (Historical note - the Shah died in Egypt after President Carter's decision to allow him into the United States for treatment triggering the embassy takeover, hostage crisis and the most screwed up rescue operation in U.S. history.)
6. Muslims are peaceful people who just want to live a simple life. But when people stop them from living that life, when people won't leave them alone, they have to fight. They have to jihad.
7. "I just wish we could have one generation of peace for my children to live for a while before it starts."
At least it wasn't a islamic plumber in the middle east... they've had toilets described to them, but have never actually seen one.
"Pakistan will join the war on Iran's side.
hmmmm....really?"
The absurdity of some of the things he presented as being common beliefs taught to everyone in the mosque just blew me away.
What evidence do you have that he was perfectly normal before he became an Islamicist?
A fair number of American blacks already start with alternative theories of reality. (Gov't is giving AIDS to blacks, white people are richer because gov't gives them bigger checks) So maybe it's not a stretch.
"That said, this is a perfect example of why I replace my own toilets."
I am mechanically incompetant - hence the home warranty - nothing that breaks in the house can cost more than $60.
EVERY cult begins with normal people and then gets them to believe what no normal person would believe. In truth, all religions have at one point or another spawned cults who turned normal people into kool-aid drinkers. Christianity included. But Islam is reading its kool-aid right out of the book! I am not surprised that some Muslims believe that bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11. Believe me, there are plenty of Muslims that believe he did and are cheering for another one. No doubt many Imams tell their (American) flocks that Islam is peace and it is impossible for Muslims to do any of these bad things. I would expect nothing less.
"What evidence do you have that he was perfectly normal before he became an Islamicist?"
I concede that point of logic. He mentioned playing Grand Theft Auto and watching the Sporanos.... he SEEMED normal other other the aformentioned insane ideas.
LOL ... so am I. You'd be surprised what you're capable of doing when push comes to shove.
"A fair number of American blacks already start with alternative theories of reality. (Gov't is giving AIDS to blacks, white people are richer because gov't gives them bigger checks) So maybe it's not a stretch."
Well, my bias is showing. I like to think "Atlanta is not like that" and "Cynthia McKinney is an aberation." But you have a point.
I understand intellectually that you are right. I just am having feelings of unreality right now. He was just so much like a normal guy from my town but now insane.
"LOL ... so am I. You'd be surprised what you're capable of doing when push comes to shove."
Well, I can tell you one thing, I'm changing plumbers.
Yup. Look at all the cults that sprang up over the generations. Most of the ended in violence of some sort!
And if it comes to it, we should be happy to accommodate them!
A Baptist convert to Islam. There's one born every minute. It never ceases to amaze me that anyone Westerner could convert to this cult. Before conversion, anyone considering it should spend a month in Saudi Arabia!
He's right about that, die they will.
On another note,I wouldn't let a moron like this work on plumbing in my house, I would leave him in charge of a used match.
"A Baptist convert to Islam. There's one born every minute. It never ceases to amaze me that anyone Westerner could convert to this cult. Before conversion, anyone considering it should spend a month in Saudi Arabia!"
What really amazes me is Baptist women that convert.... I just don't get it.
"On another note,I wouldn't let a moron like this work on plumbing in my house, I would leave him in charge of a used match."
Yeah...we're gonna be changing plumbers. I wanted to hear him out though to see if there was any hint of his being personally involved in violence.
"nothing that breaks in the house can cost more than $60.'
I had one of those warranties once. They replaced my water heater. By the time they 'brought it up to code' it cost me more than had I just bought a water heater and replaced it myself. Watch them!
...And I believe your plumber has had way too much muslim Kool-aid. I doubt most muslims fully trust converts anyway.
It's fatal blindness.
Islam is incapable of reforming itself.
Draw your own conclusions.
It's interesting, the rest of his screed was patently ridiculous, but this echoes something that I've seen in several articles on this very site. Perhaps we should pay attention to this bit of Muslim "word on the street."
Thanks for posting this, btw. Informative though a little scary.
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