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Sexless and Proud - Asexuals Say They're Misunderstood in a Sex-Obsessed World
ABC News ^ | 3/23/06

Posted on 03/23/2006 11:42:25 AM PST by iPod Shuffle

ABC News

Sexless and Proud

Asexuals Say They're Misunderstood in a Sex-Obsessed World

March 23, 2006 — - David Jay has had plenty of girlfriends. But despite the 23-year-old Californian's success in dating, he's a virgin -- and he plans to stay that way. He's not joining the priesthood or taking any vow of celibacy; he said he simply has no interest in having sex -- ever.

"I'm sure that life is really, really great when it's all about sex. But life is also really, really great when it's not about sex," he told "20/20's" JuJu Chang.

Keith Walker of Texas was married for four years, but said he had sex only a handful of times. "I really had no real interest or desire for sex. It was certainly nothing that I would ever think to do."

Nancy Mulligan, a divorcee from Washington state, said her seven-year marriage was never consummated. "We did other things. We'd watch out for each other. We were affectionate with each other," she said.

Victoria Glancy and Karl Hodgetts are preparing for that sort of marriage with their summer wedding. They're prepared to live happily but sexlessly ever after.

"I don't really see any difference between our relationship and other people's relationships, except you know, we don't have sex," Glancy said. No Libido -- No Problem

Who are these people? From different ages and walks of life, they share one thing in common -- not low libido -- no libido. They call themselves "asexual" and they proclaim that they are not attracted to men or women.

David Jay said his lack of libido is nothing new. He said he's never experienced attraction -- to either sex. "I realized that I was asexual because when I was young, all of my friends started being attracted to people, and I had no idea what they were talking about," he said.

It was the same way for Nancy Mulligan, who felt isolated for years. "I thought I was the only one in the world. I had just kind of settled into the rut that I was different and decided to do the best I could with it," she said.

But now asexuals are building a community through a Web site -- asexuality.org. It has chat rooms, sells T-shirts and claims it has 6,000-plus members worldwide.

Jay is the Web site's founder, and the leader of what some call a new asexuality movement. He explains what's behind the group. "We're told that you need sex to be happy. We're told that the rules are that if you have a relationship, sex has to fit into it this way. And it's kind of fun to break that rule," he said.

Asexuality Is 'Not a Choice'

But some experts question if asexuality even exists. There's been virtually no research on the subject. Psychologists disagree on how to define it. And there's no certainty on what might influence it. Do hormones, genetics, personal experiences play a part? With no clinical or scientific conclusions on the subject, asexuals create their own definition.

And that definition is a far cry from celibacy, Jay pointed out. "It's not a choice. Celibacy is a choice, whereas asexuality is just the way that you are. Much like being gay is not a choice, or being straight or being right-handed," he said.

Some studies show that asexual behavior does exist in the animal world. Dr. Anthony Bogaert of Brock University in Ontario, Canada, who has conducted one of the few studies of human asexuality said he found as much as 1 percent of the population may be asexual.

"They may still have physiological arousal experiences, vaginal lubrication, erections, but they may not be able to, or [connect] that arousal to men, women or both," Bogaert said.

Living without that connection can be a challenge in a world fixated on sex.

"What I mind is when the idea gets enforced that people need sex. That without sex, you're somehow broken. And of course, we can be happy without sex," Jay said. Sex Therapist Questions Label

But Joy Davidson, a certified sex therapist, believes Jay and his fellow asexuals may be shortchanging themselves with the asexual label.

"Sex is a fabulous, enormously pleasurable aspect of life. And your saying you don't miss it is like someone in a sense who's color blind saying, 'I don't miss color.' Of course, you don't miss what you've never had," Davidson said.

Davidson cited a litany of factors that may be at the root of an asexual life.

"There may be something, maybe something physiological, endocrine, maybe something that has to do with trauma, or abuse, or repression, or severe religiosity, that has predisposed you to shutting down the possibility of being sexually engaged," she said.

But the asexuals Chang spoke with for "20/20" said they're perfectly happy as they are. They said they're used to people questioning their identity. They've even questioned it themselves. For years Victoria Glancy, who wasn't attracted to men, assumed she was a lesbian.

"I have slept with a couple of women, and it was just sort of, 'Oh, well, OK, we've done that now, so we don't have to ever do it again, right,'" she said.

Glancy ultimately decided that she's asexual -- a label Davidson has called problematic.

"You might as well label yourself not curious, unadventurous, narrow-minded, blind to possibilities. That's what happens when you label yourself as sexually neutered," Davidson said.

Some Asexuals Can Have a Change of Heart

Jay said his group is not trying to paint anyone into a corner. "The thing about the asexual community is that we're not a place people come to to stop exploring themselves. We don't want to slap a label on people and then have that confine them," he said.

It's true that even the most vocal asexuals can have a change of heart. To their astonishment, Victoria Glancy and her fiancé, Karl Hodgetts, recently discovered that their passions under the covers had been ignited.

Glancy said she and Hodgetts had been getting very close to having sex recently. And Hodgetts is open to that possibility. "I just feel completely comfortable with Victoria. I don't think I've ever felt so comfortable with someone. And so I'm willing to, you know, try things," he said.

So are Glancy and Hodgetts just ammunition for critics who say asexuals simply haven't found the right partners for themselves?

That doesn't matter to Glancy, because, she said, there's a possibility she won't want to have sex — or have it more than once.

"I could have sex with Karl one time and go, 'Oh, OK, saw what that was like,' and then not like it," she said.

At first, Glancy said, she felt a bit uncomfortable acknowledging her sexual attraction to her fiancé.

"When we were first kind of fooling around, and I'm like, 'Oh, I'm not supposed to like this.' But then that's stupid. I mean, you're just are who you are," she told Chang.

Although they hadn't yet had sex when Chang spoke with them, Glancy and Hodgetts removed themselves from the asexuality Web site. For the remaining members, giving voice to asexuality is still a proud mission.

Chang asked Jay: "If I had a pill that I could give you to make you sexual, would you want it?"

"I would not take a pill to become a sexual person. I'm having way too much fun as an asexual person," he said.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: asexual; asexuality; crevolist; grandmaster; intercourse; libido; losers; mywife; sex; sexless; sexual; sexuality; virgin
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To: Slings and Arrows

ROFL!


41 posted on 03/23/2006 12:09:58 PM PST by Toby06 (Jail employers of illegal immigrants.)
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To: iPod Shuffle

Hmmmm,
hormonal deficiency coupled with burn out from hypersexualized society....

Ok, that's my guess.

I kinda envy them though.

Less sex, more time to dance :)


42 posted on 03/23/2006 12:11:35 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: iPod Shuffle
Keith Walker of Texas was married for four years, but said he had sex only a handful of times. "I really had no real interest or desire for sex. It was certainly nothing that I would ever think to do."

Pffftt. I'll bet he can lift 300lbs with his left arm though.
43 posted on 03/23/2006 12:13:12 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: Toby06

The mark of great art is its universal message.


44 posted on 03/23/2006 12:14:15 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Facts are a Zionist plot!" --MarkL)
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To: Millee
"I don't really see any difference between our relationship and other people's relationships, except you know, we don't have sex,"

And she is insinuating we do?
45 posted on 03/23/2006 12:15:41 PM PST by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger)
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To: Millee; Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army; Lazamataz; Darksheare; pissant; Dashing Dasher; najida; ...
You know, I read the article and thought about life without sex.

OMG, it was the scariest image EVER!!!

46 posted on 03/23/2006 12:16:10 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Unmarked Package
I was an asexual, but marriage cured me. :-)

Interesting. I think a lot of people find that marriage makes them asexual. ;)

I happen to believe it is possible. In fact I think the Bible says something to this effect also. Something about some men being eunichs because they were made that way.

47 posted on 03/23/2006 12:18:32 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: beaversmom

ping


48 posted on 03/23/2006 12:19:11 PM PST by onef
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To: Dashing Dasher; Slings and Arrows; r-q-tek86; Toby06
Computer Geeks do it right, every time.

... unless there's a bug in the script...

49 posted on 03/23/2006 12:19:11 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: najida

Without sex, what's the point of dancing?

;-)


50 posted on 03/23/2006 12:20:22 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR)
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To: iPod Shuffle

So what kind of "Hey everyone! Look at me!!!" bumper stickers do asexuals put on their cars? A rainbow flag in shades of gray?


51 posted on 03/23/2006 12:24:16 PM PST by Redcloak (WARNING: This post may be a violation of Federal law.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

See post 27 - pretty much nails it.


52 posted on 03/23/2006 12:28:29 PM PST by day10 (Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense.)
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To: RockinRight

If I could have sex that was as good as dancing, I would believe in heaven :)


53 posted on 03/23/2006 12:30:25 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: RockinRight

...or breathing


54 posted on 03/23/2006 12:33:25 PM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: iPod Shuffle; najida; RockinRight; Dashing Dasher; Slings and Arrows
COME ON, EVERYONE!!! LET'S MAKE FUN OF THEM!!!!!!

BWAAAH HHAA HAA HAA HAAAA!!!!


55 posted on 03/23/2006 12:38:49 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: iPod Shuffle
"Keith Walker of Texas was married for four years, but said he had sex only a handful of times."

Probably got the calluses to prove it, too.
56 posted on 03/23/2006 12:39:28 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Redcloak
Close.


57 posted on 03/23/2006 12:39:41 PM PST by Chanticleer (Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready. T. Roosevelt)
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To: TXBubba
"I happen to believe it is possible. In fact I think the Bible says something to this effect also. Something about some men being eunichs because they were made that way."

That's a fascinating observation, and you are exactly correct about the biblical reference to eunuchs from birth:

Matthew 19:12 (King James Version)

"For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

58 posted on 03/23/2006 12:42:38 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

You know, I didn't read the article, but I think I know that guy.  When I was a senior in high school, I took an advanced placement class at the Community College and this guy used to sit in the back, right behind me.  His name was Donya and he used to pass me Polaroid pictures of himself wearing makeup, naked, with his wand tucked between his legs.

That's what asexual means, right?

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

59 posted on 03/23/2006 12:44:39 PM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Chanticleer

That reminds me,
It would be nice to fix martinis tonight.


60 posted on 03/23/2006 12:46:13 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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