OK, if this was a government conspiracy, how did the government convince a number of people to fly the suicide missions with planes full of people into the towers as a diversion tactic?
This is your brain on drugs.
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Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC
By Elaine Jarvik Deseret Morning News The physics of 9/11 — including how fast and symmetrically one of the World Trade Center buildings fell — prove that official explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young University physics professor. In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives" in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones. In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer-reviewed publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous skeptics, including the authors of the Web site www.wtc7.net, whose research Jones quotes. Jones' article can be found at www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html. Stuart Johnson, Deseret Morning News"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three (WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says. Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU, is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation "guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by observations and calculations. "It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three buildings and set off after the two plane crashes — which were actually a diversion tactic," he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes. As for speculation about who might have planted the explosives, Jones said, "I don't usually go there. There's no point in doing that until we do the scientific investigation." Previous investigations, including those of FEMA, the 9/11 Commission and NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and Technology), ignore the physics and chemistry of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001, to the Twin Towers and the 47-story building known as WTC 7, he says. The official explanation — that fires caused structural damage that caused the buildings to collapse — can't be backed up by either testing or history, he says. Jones acknowledges that there have been "junk science" conspiracy theories about what happened on 9/11, but "the explosive demolition hypothesis better satisfies tests of repeatability and parsimony and therefore is not 'junk science.' " In a 9,000-word article that Jones says will be published in the book "The Hidden History of 9/11," by Elsevier, Jones offers these arguments: • The three buildings collapsed nearly symmetrically, falling down into their footprints, a phenomenon associated with "controlled demolition" — and even then it's very difficult, he says. "Why would terrorists undertake straight-down collapses of WTC-7 and the Towers when 'toppling over' falls would require much less work and would do much more damage in downtown Manhattan?" Jones asks. "And where would they obtain the necessary skills and access to the buildings for a symmetrical implosion anyway? The 'symmetry data' emphasized here, along with other data, provide strong evidence for an 'inside' job."
• No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever steel columns, he says.
• WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6 seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object dropped from the roof to hit the ground. "Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational laws of physics?" he asks. "That is, as upper-falling floors strike lower floors — and intact steel support columns — the fall must be significantly impeded by the impacted mass. . . . How do the upper floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the collapsing buildings?" The paradox, he says, "is easily resolved by the explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near free-fall-speed collapses." These observations were not analyzed by FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.
• With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without explosives? Remarkable, amazing — and demanding scrutiny since the U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."
• Horizontal puffs of smoke, known as squibs, were observed proceeding up the side the building, a phenomenon common when pre-positioned explosives are used to demolish buildings, he says.
• Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel — and neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20 minutes in any given location, he says.
• Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly used explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by explosives "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal," Jones says.
• Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.
Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which point "everyone around me started applauding." Following several months of study, he presented his findings at a talk at BYU in September. Jones says he would like the government to release 6,899 photographs and 6,977 segments of video footage for "independent scrutiny." He would also like to analyze a small sample of the molten metal found at Ground Zero.
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OK, if this was a government conspiracy, how did the government convince a number of people to fly the suicide missions with planes full of people into the towers as a diversion tactic?
This is your brain on drugs.
You would think that part is too obvious to have to be restated, but I guess the denial runs too deep even to accept that.
But these tinfoil wackos always, invariably make the leap to 'it was an inside job' and MIHOP, at which point I flick their deranged theories like a booger. It's always about sliming President Bush. Always.
I guess NOBODY saw those planes loaded with fuel fly into those buildings. It was trickery. Planes flying 400 MPH crash into the earth and leave huge craters, but you don't think they can take out steel columns, and the heat from thousands of gallons of jet fuel wouldn't weaken the rest?
Sure, it was all a Mossad conspiracy.
What an idiot.
I don't know how much more evidence these people need. MILLIONS of eye-witnesses, MILLIONS of pictures, TONS of evidence, yet they still don't get it. They are either (1) disingenuous or (2) congenital imbeciles.
The truth is gaining momentum
Good that this kind of stuff comes up every so often.
As Released by the Pentagon on Thursday, December 13, 2001:
Note: "UBL" is Usama (Osama) bin Laden speaking.
(Transcript and annotations independently prepared by George Michael, translator, Diplomatic Language Services; and Dr. Kassem M. Wahba, Arabic language program coordinator, School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University. They collaborated on their translation and compared it with translations done by the U.S. government for consistency. There were no inconsistencies in the translations.)UBL: (...Inaudible...) we calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy, who would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all. (...Inaudible...) due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. This is all that we had hoped for.
UBL: We were at (...inaudible...) when the event took place. We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on. It was 5:30 p.m. our time. I was sitting with Dr. Ahmad Abu-al-((Khair)). Immediately, we heard the news that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. We turned the radio station to the news from Washington. The news continued and no mention of the attack until the end. At the end of the newscast, they reported that a plane just hit the World Trade Center.
UBL: After a little while, they announced that another plane had hit the World Trade Center. The brothers who heard the news were overjoyed by it.
Your post is so pathetically lame, marketz.
It's not even worth the energy to personally expend a ZOT.
I'll just laugh as others lay you to waste.
Jack.
My uncle sent me this last night. He believes EVERY hair-brained conspiracy theory that comes down the pike. He's still a great guy though.
As for this professor, seems his claim to fame is a solar cooker. Quite an accomplishment for his scholarly background.
What a waste of money for his parents.
I use to post on the Yahoo Message boards before I was introduced to FR.
There were spinners there that tried posting the towers never came down. I couldn't get them to respond to me though as to whether they meant the towers never existed or if they meant the towers were still standing :P Guess they didn't work out those details before introducing that thought.
"Man, you must invest heavily in tin foil.
Readjust your hat. It's slipped on the left side of your head."
The M.I.T. study link to earlier in the thread suggests that tinfoil hats may actually amplify mind control waves ..this may be part of the problem... :)
It just really irks me when the DUmmies claim that we did this ourselves so we could pillage the oil supply and torture peaceful citizens.
Anything DU says urks me :)
I do know floors came down first. Full floors just came collapsing down into the lobby before the building structure.
What I don't get is why these idiots on the left that come up with these completely retarded conspiracy theories never listen to what these Muslim Jihadists say, never take their threats to destroy western civilization seriously.
They are either completely retarded, or Islamic jihadists posing as leftists. (that doesn't make them any less retarded mind you, Islam causes atrophy of the brain) Here's a good online book to pass around
http://www.musulmanbook.blogspot.com/
Inside the muslim mind, written in 1922 by a Frenchman none the less! It seems at one time the French did know what islam was all about, too bad they can't follow this old, well written study.
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