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Posted on 11/12/2005 11:32:57 AM PST by marketz

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Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC

By Elaine Jarvik Deseret Morning News The physics of 9/11 — including how fast and symmetrically one of the World Trade Center buildings fell — prove that official explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young University physics professor. In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives" in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones. In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer-reviewed publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous skeptics, including the authors of the Web site www.wtc7.net, whose research Jones quotes. Jones' article can be found at www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html. Stuart Johnson, Deseret Morning News"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three (WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says. Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU, is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation "guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by observations and calculations. "It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three buildings and set off after the two plane crashes — which were actually a diversion tactic," he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes. As for speculation about who might have planted the explosives, Jones said, "I don't usually go there. There's no point in doing that until we do the scientific investigation." Previous investigations, including those of FEMA, the 9/11 Commission and NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and Technology), ignore the physics and chemistry of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001, to the Twin Towers and the 47-story building known as WTC 7, he says. The official explanation — that fires caused structural damage that caused the buildings to collapse — can't be backed up by either testing or history, he says. Jones acknowledges that there have been "junk science" conspiracy theories about what happened on 9/11, but "the explosive demolition hypothesis better satisfies tests of repeatability and parsimony and therefore is not 'junk science.' " In a 9,000-word article that Jones says will be published in the book "The Hidden History of 9/11," by Elsevier, Jones offers these arguments: • The three buildings collapsed nearly symmetrically, falling down into their footprints, a phenomenon associated with "controlled demolition" — and even then it's very difficult, he says. "Why would terrorists undertake straight-down collapses of WTC-7 and the Towers when 'toppling over' falls would require much less work and would do much more damage in downtown Manhattan?" Jones asks. "And where would they obtain the necessary skills and access to the buildings for a symmetrical implosion anyway? The 'symmetry data' emphasized here, along with other data, provide strong evidence for an 'inside' job."

• No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever steel columns, he says.

• WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6 seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object dropped from the roof to hit the ground. "Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational laws of physics?" he asks. "That is, as upper-falling floors strike lower floors — and intact steel support columns — the fall must be significantly impeded by the impacted mass. . . . How do the upper floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the collapsing buildings?" The paradox, he says, "is easily resolved by the explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near free-fall-speed collapses." These observations were not analyzed by FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.

• With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without explosives? Remarkable, amazing — and demanding scrutiny since the U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."

• Horizontal puffs of smoke, known as squibs, were observed proceeding up the side the building, a phenomenon common when pre-positioned explosives are used to demolish buildings, he says.

• Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel — and neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20 minutes in any given location, he says.

• Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly used explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by explosives "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal," Jones says.

• Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.

Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which point "everyone around me started applauding." Following several months of study, he presented his findings at a talk at BYU in September. Jones says he would like the government to release 6,899 photographs and 6,977 segments of video footage for "independent scrutiny." He would also like to analyze a small sample of the molten metal found at Ground Zero.

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To: marketz

I think you broke the record for a sleeping troll! Congratulations.


41 posted on 11/12/2005 11:45:59 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: marketz

This is garbage. There were not explosives at certain positions within the building. Not possible.

Take your fairytale somewhere else.


42 posted on 11/12/2005 11:46:06 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe in Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: dighton
You've got to be joking ...

No joking about it.

These (pre-positioned explosives claim) will be the DNC's new talking points by next week.

43 posted on 11/12/2005 11:47:09 AM PST by Edit35
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To: Right Wing Assault
office material fires would burn out within about 20 minutes in any given location, he says

This man must never have seen another high rise fire. A building next to mine in Chicago had a fire last year, it took about 4 or 5 hours of intense firefighting to extinguish. By why argue with an consipiracy theorist? Any evidence you provide will just be part of a further coverup.

44 posted on 11/12/2005 11:47:40 AM PST by sharkhawk (Play me a dirge matey)
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To: marketz
This Thread Belongs Here

Caution: Only the mentally disturbed should click the link

45 posted on 11/12/2005 11:47:48 AM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: marketz

I want some of what you've been smoking. It must be good stuff, for you to believe this tripe.


46 posted on 11/12/2005 11:47:48 AM PST by Maigrey (1-800-pryrwrr. Just a ring away...)
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To: sharkhawk
Well everyone is intitled to their opinions but it looks bad that he isn't here defending his. A post and run?
47 posted on 11/12/2005 11:47:56 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: marketz

Well then, let me drive right over to the mosque and apologize for calling them all scum. I'll have to look at my checking account to write them a significant donation check!


48 posted on 11/12/2005 11:48:05 AM PST by aShepard
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To: sharkhawk
"Wow, a 6 year sleeper troll. I wonder if that is a record?"

Trust me, there are a few more of them about.

49 posted on 11/12/2005 11:49:15 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: marketz
It must be pretty lonely where you live.

HA HA

50 posted on 11/12/2005 11:49:25 AM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: marketz
It's not that you're a dumbass that bothers me, it's that you would willingly dishonor those who died and their families that makes me want turn you over to those you defend. Just to see the look on your face as you realize that cold blade you feel on the back of your neck is not another government conspiracy. I would never wish that on anyone normally, but in your case I would make an exception
51 posted on 11/12/2005 11:49:47 AM PST by txroadkill
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To: Fzob

This is right up your ladder


52 posted on 11/12/2005 11:50:34 AM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: marketz

I don't see this article on worldnetdaily.com, or even wprldnetdaily.com.

Can you please provide the exact URL?


53 posted on 11/12/2005 11:50:56 AM PST by counterpunch (~ Let O'Connor Go Home! ~)
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To: CindyDawg

"Muslims are (probably) not to blame"

Everybody over at DU knows it was the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOWS


54 posted on 11/12/2005 11:51:15 AM PST by skimask (Whatever happens it's Bush or Roves' fault.)
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To: marketz

"Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you have a lot of surprises ahead of you,"

Oh, my Saints. Call Chris Matthews and tell him we've got somebody he can interview.


55 posted on 11/12/2005 11:51:16 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: MadIvan
What plane?

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56 posted on 11/12/2005 11:52:26 AM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: Popman

I sometimes browse there when I get bored. Holographic airplanes, embedded explosives, Barbara Olsen was arrested on the Polish/Austrian border with millions of Italian lyra, and a few relatively sane DUmmies trying to rationally rebut the wilder claims. It's better than a Clive Cussler novel sometimes.


57 posted on 11/12/2005 11:52:45 AM PST by sharkhawk (Play me a dirge matey)
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To: marketz

58 posted on 11/12/2005 11:53:26 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: marketz
No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever steel columns, he says.

No steel-frame building fire, other than the WTC fires, was driven by over a hundred tons of jet fuel

59 posted on 11/12/2005 11:53:47 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (I do what the voices in lazamataz's head tell me to)
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To: marketz
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60 posted on 11/12/2005 11:54:01 AM PST by skimask (Whatever happens it's Bush or Roves' fault.)
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