I mean, some people have never heard your music.
Posted on 09/04/2005 8:55:02 PM PDT by wagglebee
Rush Limbaugh is going to be deeply saddened, he's a big Celine Dion fan.
I used to like her too, but now, I'm done with her. She should take her Francophone behind back to French Canada.
It is a filthy city, you are right about that. And I grew up in NYC, so imagine how dirty it was if it bothered me!
I'm sure your statements seem obvious to most people. But they're actually the most pernicious, evil, wrong-headed ever made.
Human history is one of continual conflict. Do you really believe that people on the "other" side think of themselves as evil? That they share your views and interpretations? That they believe they're wearing the black hat and you the white one?
Disputes about good and evil are the basis of politics, philosophy, economics, social organization. You couldn't be more wrong.
From the incoherence of his statement, Kayne West looks like his mind is gone. It is unlikely that he will ever be able to realize the truth of the matter.
Can I go to her house?
The line of thought you're ridiculing is straight out of Sowell's "Ethnic America", and is obvious common sense observation.
Looters loot for the loot
Of course they do! Did I or anyone else say otherwise? What Dion said was that at least some of these people probably had never touched wealth before and never would again.
The underlying socioeconomic conditions is who's fault?
Nobody's...or God's. It's part of the march of history. Peoples conquer or get conquered and that has consequences.
Larry, actually you are more to blame since you push the race baiting and sel-vicimization that keeps the lower class from emancipating themselves.
Maybe I'm not being clear. Sorry. I'm trying a new line of thought and am not very good at it.
Those left in New Orleans are the lowest 20% of society and those looting, raping, and murdering are the lowest of the lowest. And they're operating under conditions that would try any man. In any competition there are losers. Not everyone can "emancipate" himself. When you push people too hard bad things happen.
Race is a factor. That can't be denied. My usual line of thought has been that this sort of bad behavior has been demonstrated by no other group in the face of natural disaster. The Japanese in Kobe, whites at Homestead, Asians in the face of the tsunami, etc - all behaved much better. But it's been pointed out to me that disaster exacerbated ethnic hatreds and conflictrs in Sri Lanka. So maybe I was wrong. And how important, how typical is this bad behavior of "race relations"? Is it in any way typical of New Orleans blacks? Of those 100,000 stranded in New Orleans how many behaved badly and how badly?
What about leadership failures? Who failed and how? Nagin has been criticized for not loading people on available buses and just driving them out of town - even if they had no place to stay. A bold move which would have left him open to severe criticism had things not gotten so bad. A failure of vision some say. But Bush is on record as saying no one expected the levees to fail - complete crap. And he didn't drop down into the crowd the way he did after 911. So there's plenty of blame to spread around.
Yep. Too bad the ones treating them like dogs are the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world.
I act out of self-interest and on my best conceptions. I fight hard for what I believe in, for the kind of world I want. So do my enemies.
The poster I was responding to claimed distinguishing right from wrong was easy for human beings. That makes all my enemies stupid or inhuman. Obvious bullshit. Therefore the poster was wrong...just as you are.
Take your PC garbage "nobody has the right truths" off of FR.
Idiot.
Putting it another way. We're arguing about right and wrong and disagree. Therefore one of us is stupid, evil, or inhuman. I say it's you.
The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons can be wrong too.
I hope this wakes Celine up to the fact that ordinary people come to see her concerts in Las Vegas, and some may have business in the NOLA area.
Sharpton, Jackson et al ARE wrong. They've done far more to oppress their race in the last 15 years than any white person.
Funny, she doesn't say the same thing when people steal her music. Of course no self respecting looter would be caught dead stealing one of her CDs from the Wal-Mart.
I mean, some people have never heard your music.
Many blacks have behaved badly. Agreed.
Many blacks haven't taken advantage of available opportunities. Agreed.
Many of their leaders are race hustlers and opportunists. Agreed.
Many blacks have behaved badly. Agreed.
Many blacks haven't taken advantage of available opportunities. Agreed.
Many of their leaders are race hustlers and opportunists. Agreed.
That's what it has to do with the current thread.
If dogs are treated badly they act badly. One must protect oneself from them...but can still have some understanding of, and compassion for, them.
I pointed out that their own "leaders" are much more likely to do so than anyone else.
Retraining is not easy. Especially so in an unfriendly environment. Their leaders come out of the same environment and, quite naturally, bear some scars and some resentments. It's an unfortunate truth that when power changes hands the new possessors of imperium are no improvement.
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