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The Hobbit Hole XXII - ...Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe
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Posted on 06/01/2005 7:12:04 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: HairOfTheDog

Let's play it by ear then...


5,961 posted on 06/30/2005 7:19:08 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog

Yeah, but with responsibility comes the tether of being available 24-7 with the cell phone and email @ home.


5,962 posted on 06/30/2005 7:21:09 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: HairOfTheDog

Heh! This has been brewing since MONDAY! When he told me he changed it to the evening to accommodate some self-employed dude, I just felt awful!

I'm all for looking good and "moving up in the company" extra work...but if he can get it done during business hours (not always possible, I know), that's what I want him to do...make it a priority to come HOME.

That is what so upset me...home wasn't the priority, nor was school. That dude's schedule was.

He told me he'd go back to the normal time he's done it. The guy can adjust or find another monitoring person to work with. For the dude, it's not that big a deal...there are other options for him.


5,963 posted on 06/30/2005 7:25:16 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: Lil'freeper

Well, that's sortof what I meant... with exempt positions comes the responsibility without compensation at all for the overtime.

I was exempt as a secretary at one position in the past, when I was in the corporate ratrace....


5,964 posted on 06/30/2005 7:26:00 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: 2Jedismom

Heh..at one stinking job I used to have it didn't matter how much you got done during the day. If the POS manager didn't see you working after hours and on weekends, you were a slacker.


5,965 posted on 06/30/2005 7:26:59 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
You're a slacker, McFly!


5,966 posted on 06/30/2005 7:30:44 AM PDT by ecurbh
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To: Overtaxed

Heh!!! Steve should take lessons from ya!

He's overly accommodating. He never asks "What's in this for me?" or even tries to figure it out.

He's the same way with me! He just does without question and then is always kinda shocked to find out there really was something in it for him! The chickens, for example. He built that coop to my specifications and to his delight, he has fresh eggs for breakfast every morning. Even when we don't have very many, the fresh eggs go to Dad, because he enjoys them so much.

He's stared out the kitchen window at those chickens and muttered "Who would have imagined..."

LOL

I love him so much. He really is a great guy.


5,967 posted on 06/30/2005 7:32:52 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: ecurbh

Yep. Slacker!


5,968 posted on 06/30/2005 7:35:20 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: 2Jedismom

It sounds hard, 2J, and I'll bet Steve feels bad about the time he pulls away from you. It's just as hard for him not being around as it is for you not being around him. I know you know that, and I'm glad you're blowing the steam off here and not at Steve. Because it'll just make Steve feel worse and he's got a lot on his plate right now too.

There's also a difference between "permitted to do it during office hours" and "encouraged to do it". Could the office be putting pressure on him to do more of his hours outside of business hours?


5,969 posted on 06/30/2005 7:43:44 AM PDT by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog; Lil'freeper; Overtaxed

I imagine I'll be a lot more understanding when we get that big paycheck. But at 28K take home a year, I feel like they already get their pound of flesh. And if there were a chance for him to move up in the city, I'd look at it differently too...but there really isn't.

But now there's the paper. The city told him they'd pay him overtime for the paper (his thesis). It was a study they needed done. Then the grant fell through and he didn't get any overtime. But it's all good. I'm happy as a clam with how it worked out. Overtime would have been sweet, but the fact that they let him stay and work on it in the quiet of his office every single evening and on some weekends was compensation enough.


5,970 posted on 06/30/2005 7:45:02 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: JenB

No, it was just that guy that has nothing to do with the city or Steve's office or anything. He told Steve he couldn't do it during the day anymore and instead of Steve saying "Sorry about that." Steve switched to the evening.

This organization is made up of all kinds of volunteers...even private citizens can volunteer. But companies do it and the city does it and even the county does it because it's good PR.

This guy does it for the same reason...it's good PR for his company.

"Environmental Activism"


5,971 posted on 06/30/2005 7:48:47 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: JenB

Oh, and the other people in Steve's office do it during business hours too. Except for a few people, but I think they view it as a social event and actually enjoy going out with their pals and doing the monitoring. They do it on the weekends and such. Actually do it more than they have to. They really enjoy it. That's great! Dandy for them! More power to them!

It's just not us.


5,972 posted on 06/30/2005 7:53:43 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed; Lil'freeper; JenB

Ok, here's my final comment on this situation...

When I was working full time, before we had a family...the hospital I worked for would participate in health fairs...or sometimes they'd give away free flu shots or something. I would volunteer to do it (it wasn't as expected as it is with Steve, but nonetheless, it looked good). I loved it! Nursing was my passion and I really loved it and enjoyed spending a day off doing it.

Steve LOVES what he does and after school is over, I don't think it will bother me when he volunteers for things. IF they are things he can't get done during business hours (like the Pollution Collection Event and the Creek Cleanup). I can actually see Steve volunteering for this stuff even after he retires! It's his passion!

We just don't see him enough *at this current time* for him to accommodate someone else's schedule.


5,973 posted on 06/30/2005 8:09:50 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: 2Jedismom

Understood :~D


5,974 posted on 06/30/2005 8:12:55 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ExGeeEye

I'll see if I can find out how much it is before we go on the 15th.


5,975 posted on 06/30/2005 8:13:10 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: 2Jedismom
My beef is if he has the option to get it done during work hours, he should do so, instead of accommodating some self-employed dude.

I can fully understand that!

5,976 posted on 06/30/2005 8:15:21 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Corin Stormhands
We saw a preview of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory when we went to see War of the Worlds, yesterday. It actually looked pretty interesting. Depp didn't come off as creepy in the long trailer as he did in the teaser trailer.
5,977 posted on 06/30/2005 8:17:32 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

If he's creepy... it's a good thing. I'm thinking they did the story right this time.

Loved that book as a kid. Loved a lot of Dahl's weird, dark humor. The Gene Wilder version cleaned it up and sanitized it too much for my liking.


5,978 posted on 06/30/2005 8:28:49 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Overtaxed

Here it is 10:30 in the morning and we have had only .02 inches of rain. The sidewalk under the tree is still dry. That storm is going to have to start really producing for us to get the 1/2 inch the weatherweenies promised us!


5,979 posted on 06/30/2005 8:28:55 AM PDT by LSAggie
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To: Corin Stormhands

So that means we all have to see the new Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie?


5,980 posted on 06/30/2005 8:29:22 AM PDT by JenB
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