Posted on 04/04/2005 8:07:34 PM PDT by Long Cut
Well, that time has come for me. I’m leaving FR. However, I do not consider this an “opus”, as I am NOT going to use it to rehash old slights or arguments, or to give my personal opinion of what “should be done around here”. As has been so often pointed out, this is Jim Robinson’s site, and he runs it as he sees fit. Rather, all I’m going to do here is give a general reason for my departure, and say a hearty-but-sad “GOODBYE!” to all the folks here who have enriched my life in the past four years.
I am a small-government, national-security and military supporting, pro-gun, economic conservative who also likes to enjoy the life I have to its fullest. I believe that the government does its best work when it restricts itself to the things it is supposed to do vis a vis the Constitution. That is, it should restrict itself at this time to shooting terrorists and delivering the mail, as well as doing its level best to ensure that the rights of one citizen are left untrampled by another. I hold that the government should stay as far as possible from any entanglements with religion, organized or not, save to ensure that ALL are treated fairly by the law. I also hold that the government should NOT be in the business of making laws regarding the personal, private behavior of its free citizens, so long as such behavior harms no other.
In these past months, it has become plain to me that this position is NOT that of a majority of FReepers, nor of the management itself. So, rather than “tilt at windmills”, I shall simply go my own way. I have no comments about this circumstance or its origins; it is simply the way I see things.
Also, I have grown as a person on FR. When I first joined, I’d be right in there flaming with the best of ‘em. As the years have past, I have come to realize the value of simple, civil discourse, for it is in that sort of discourse that a man may actually learn things, both about the topic at hand, and about himself and what being a true gentleman means.
As before, in the past months, the majority seems to prefer it to be otherwise. Again, no comments, just stating what I see.
Before I leave, however, I wish to do two things.
First and foremost, I wish to thank Mr. Robinson for providing this site…despite the necessity of leaving now, I have truly learned a great deal here, too much for words. I was able to “vent my spleen” on issues that mattered to me, talk about mutual interests with like-minded people, and get to know some absolutely terrific folks. Mr. Robinson, you did a good job. Sorry indeed am I that I must part ways. Nonetheless, as one old Sailor to another, “Fair Winds And Following Seas, Shipmate!”
Second, I wish to thank, and bid farewell to, some of the most outstanding people it has ever been my pleasure and honor to know.
- The folks over at the FReeper Canteen, shepherded by 68-69tonkingulfyachtclub. I was drawn to the Canteen almost on my first day here, as there exists there an outpouring of support and affection for this nation’s military (of which I am a part) the likes of which have seldom seen equal. From the first, they took me in as if I were one of their own families, and the regular posters there were with me with prayers and support, as well as joy and salutes, through many dark days indeed, and many bright ones.
I am an agnostic, religiously, but that did not matter to my Canteen Friends…they were there with prayers and, well, love when my wife and I lost our first baby. They shared in the joy we had when we finally had a healthy son. They prayed again, selflessly, for me when I went on deployment. Then, they welcomed me home again with open arms, and more prayers, as I came home to bury my dear mother. In doing this for someone they knew was not religious himself, and in doing it without any hesitation, they showed a non-believer the BEST side of Christianity one could possibly ask for. To the Canteen, including Ms. Behavin, Ms. Poohbear, La diva loca, trussel, Tonk, Spotsy, Bentfeather, KathyinAlaska, and all the rest too numerous to name, I say without any sense of irony at all, “BLESS YOU”.
- The many unbelievably intelligent scientists and science-lovers over on the Crevo and science threads, ably pinged by PatrickHenry. From you ladies and gentlemen of BOTH sides, I have expanded my scientific knowledge and thinking by an order of magnitude. Ichneumon, Vade, Junior, Radio Astronomer, Right wing Professor, Betty Boop, Alamo-Girl, and all the rest of the maniacs over there made it an edifying experience that could never have been acquired in a school.
- The HTT list. I thoroughly enjoyed the times we spent “raisin Hell”. Gabz, Formermilitarychick, exnavychick, and the rest shared many a laugh with this old Heathen.
- Archy, Squantos, Travis McGee, Glock Rocks, Joe Brower, criminall number 18f, and all of the guys and gals on the gun or “Bang List threads. I learned a ton of good gouge from you guys over the years. I’m gonna miss you, but with your advice I shan’t miss much else with a pistol!
- The Republican Party Reptiles. The Big B and company showed quite well that not ALL conservatives are stick in the muds. Many of us actually LIKE looking at pretty women in few clothes. B, I hope the party lasts a bit longer fer y’all.
- The WPPFF. Y’all know who you are, and why. All I can say is, we tried. And we tried long past what any normal person would have, to our credit.
- My individual Friends…DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet, Veronica, peach, the incomparable PukinDog, Wild Turkey, and about a hundred others I could take a couple of days naming. I’ll miss y’all sumpin’ turible.
Anyhoo, this has gotten longer than I ever thought it would. Anyone with me on their ping lists can go ahead and remove my name, if you wish. Those whose wish it is to gloat, say “good riddance”, and other such juvenile nonsense are welcome to begin, thus confirming my reasoning.
‘Bye, all. Godspeed.
What difference would that make? If someone is called a liar on the basis that the person has lied, isn't that merely accuracy?
And regardless, since you don't know what transpired, so what?
Remember, "another FReeper" might support the defeat of Sonny Perdue, the defeat of Rick Santorum or Jeb Bush in a presidential election, the legalization of heroin and prostitution, or the KLA...and I have seen FReepers lie through their teeth about everything from their purported military service to their identities.
Why do you keep baiting her? What's the point of this?
Hiya Onyx
Another fun day in the neighborhood huh?
Yes it is, and you wouldn't know it, if it jumped up and bit you in the ass. Bottom line is this: When someone lies, and they get called a liar, that is not calling names. It is the truth, and, as you say, it is a virtue.
Nice try though. As long as divisive, master baiters such as yourself are allowed to continue at FR, FR will continue to be marginalized more and more as people that are better, smarter, and have more to offer than you are pushed out the door...
But hey, enjoy the cesspool you helped create.
Well, I wish either of the Bush's had stepped up and said that this law is wrong and must be rewritten. It is wrong to order the death of an innocent and helpless person and this must be stopped.
I think an executive decision in this case holds just as much water as a judicial opinion. The branches have equal powers and both (or all three including the legislative branch) are entrusted with defending the constitution and our rights. The very worst thing that would've happened is Terri may have been permitted to live long enough to allow the legislators to try to get it right. And, of course, if the people thought the executive abused his power then he might be subject to impeachment. That's the way the founders set up the system.
Why is he leaving??
I said in at least three other posts that what she said was NOT THE TRUTH.
If you choose to defend lies, that's your problem.
Where'd you get the idea that I thought it was?
The WPPPPFFFT! manifesto stated plainly that the rest of FR wasn't worth participating in. If that isn't "splitting" off, I don't know what would be.
The people on those threads sure do think it is -- and, unless I'm mistaken, you were on them.
I have no problem with religion, jsut those that wear it on their sleves like a badge pushing it into people's faces.
The terri thing was personal for lots of folk, fine, some of us realized that the shameless whoring of her situation by hungry for votes from the religious right congressmen was disgusting.
There WAS a certain green eyed blond..LOL
They are still posting here! ;)
"Well, I wish either of the Bush's had stepped up and said that this law is wrong and must be rewritten. It is wrong to order the death of an innocent and helpless person and this must be stopped"
I am so happy to hear you say that. Not that I ever doubted your veracity....just that I am happy to hear it.
The question I have is:
how is it possible to err, when we choose life?
I guess you don't have the guts to say that to my face, do you?
YES!!! Thank you, I've been racking my brain for weeks trying to remember his name.
IMHO, the worst thing you could do at FR is get involved in anything other than reading and commenting on the news.
oh woe is me. Now I must be charismatic and charming to freepers who call me names. that's new.
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