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The Polynesian Connection
Archaeology, Volume 58 Number 2 ^ | March/April 2005 | Blake Edgar

Posted on 03/31/2005 8:09:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv

They called themselves "people of the tomol" and their canoe the "house of the sea." For the Chumash people, who inhabited the southern California coast as well as several islands across the Santa Barbara Channel, the sewn-plank canoe, or tomol, anchored both their identity and economy... Some archaeologists argue that the tomol made possible the complexity of Chumash culture... What if the Chumash encountered the unchallenged masters of oceanic navigation, the Polynesians, and learned the idea from them? ...[N]ow a distinguished California archaeologist and a linguist of the Chumash languages have marshaled new evidence for a Polynesia-California connection.

(Excerpt) Read more at archaeology.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: archaeology; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history
Not much to that webpage, it's merely an abstract (not in the scholarly sense). My apologies if it has appeared on FR before, I wasn't able to locate anything.

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1 posted on 03/31/2005 8:09:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 03/31/2005 8:10:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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3 posted on 03/31/2005 8:15:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh, so The Polynesian's discovered America, not Columbus?

I still say the vikings entered North America first. They came in through the Hudson Straight, into Hudsons Bay, down the Nelson, and down the Red river all the way to Mississippi.
They were our first "Indians". They adapted to the land, learned how to make tee-pee's and build canoes. Then they bred with the Mongoles who came in across through Russia followed the coast and moved east. THEN a few centuries later, Columbus came and discovered them. :o)


4 posted on 03/31/2005 8:19:48 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: Nuzcruizer

The Vikings found the "Indians" already here, referred to them as "skraelings". But check out Hjalmar Holand's book on the Kensington Runestone, if you haven't already.


5 posted on 03/31/2005 8:23:25 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The more we learn about ancient civilizations, the more we realize that there were probably many more contacts between different peoples than have been generally accepted as "facts"

I think an analysis of the posts on FR which have been distributed by Sunken Civ. over the past few months will bear this out. [ref: cocaine mummies; chinese voyages; viking maps; red-haired mummies in China, etc.]


6 posted on 03/31/2005 8:23:56 AM PST by wildbill
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To: SunkenCiv

I like my story better, It makes more people upset.


7 posted on 03/31/2005 8:26:27 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: wildbill

Just wait 10,000 years from now. After the earth recovers from the next ice age, the remaining civilization, who will have forgotten all history, will -re- discover America, and find a whole mix mash of different ethnic skulls. They'll never figure out Multi-culturalism.


8 posted on 03/31/2005 8:30:58 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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9 posted on 04/05/2006 11:27:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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10 posted on 04/05/2006 11:27:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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an update and upcoming event:
Were Polynesians in California before Columbus?
"Linguistic and Archaeological Evidence for Prehistoric Polynesian Contact with Southern California"
University of Arkansas
FOR RELEASE: Tuesday, April 04, 2006
The Robert L. Stigler, Jr. Lecture in Archaeology at 6:30 p.m. Thursday, April 6, in Giffels Auditorium, Old Main, will feature Terry L. Jones, associate professor of anthropology, California Polytechnic State University, and Kathryn A. Klar, lecturer, Celtic Studies Program at the University of California, Berkeley, speaking on "Linguistic and Archaeological Evidence for Prehistoric Polynesian Contact with Southern California." The collaboration of Jones and Klar sheds light on a puzzle: did Polynesians before Columbus sail to southern California? Jones received his doctorate in 1995 from the University of California, Davis. He is the co-author of "Prehistoric California: Archaeology and the Myth of Paradise."

Jones is an acknowledged authority on California prehistory and adaptations to coastal, estuary and marine settings. Klar's undergraduate and graduate degrees in linguistics are from the University of California, Berkeley. She was awarded a National Science Foundation Graduate Fellowship from 1971 through 1974. After a Smithsonian Institution Postdoctoral Fellowship, she returned to Berkeley in 1978. Klar has taught in the departments of linguistics and comparative literature before her most recent appointment in 1989 to the Celtic Studies Program. In 2000, she was honored as a Berkeley Language Center Fellow. Klar teaches Welsh, Welsh poetry, and has dealt extensively with native California languages including Chumash, which is central to hers and Jones' argument about Polynesian seafarers. Among Klar's current projects is a full-scale intellectual biography of American linguist and ethnologist John P. Harrington.
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11 posted on 04/05/2006 11:29:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Nuzcruizer

No, Chuck Norris discovered America first.


12 posted on 04/05/2006 12:15:41 PM PDT by BJClinton (No war. For oil.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Were Polynesians in California before Columbus?

Was Columbus ever in California?

13 posted on 04/05/2006 12:57:05 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SunkenCiv

I am not surprised if the first Americans were Polynesians and Ainus, who probably came around 50,000 years ago. I suspect Ainus and Polynesians are the same people, among them Veddas, Australian Aborgines, and Bataks. Some South American Indian languages are similar to Polynesian languages like Quechua.


14 posted on 04/05/2006 12:57:15 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: lepton
Was Columbus ever in California?

He's still there. ;)

15 posted on 04/05/2006 1:00:28 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: SunkenCiv

I believe I've read that genetics proves some relationship between between the Polynesians and some Native American groups


16 posted on 04/05/2006 1:09:42 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: lepton
Was Columbus ever in California?

Everybody knows Columbus is in Ohio.

17 posted on 04/05/2006 5:44:25 PM PDT by curmudgeonII (One man...and the Lord...are a majority.)
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To: lepton
He's all over the place...

Syracuse NY

18 posted on 04/05/2006 11:20:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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