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What else could I have said to one so young?
1 posted on 03/01/2005 8:09:17 AM PST by Mears
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To: Mears
Why on earth would a teacher say things like this to a child who thinks if the teacher said it then it must be true.

I think the answer is contained in the question.

2 posted on 03/01/2005 8:10:15 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Mears

Its the teacher you should be talking too, and not so gently.


3 posted on 03/01/2005 8:10:36 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around.....)
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To: Gabz; SheLion; TexasCowboy; Madame Dufarge

Need feedback here---I'm at a loss for words about this!


4 posted on 03/01/2005 8:11:33 AM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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What do your granddaughter's parents say about this?


5 posted on 03/01/2005 8:11:45 AM PST by Auntie Mame ("Whether you think you can or think you can't -- you are right." Henry Ford)
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My daughter is in the 3rd grade also and she is glad that Bush won. Go figure.


7 posted on 03/01/2005 8:15:36 AM PST by loborojo (What the hell is a "Reagan Democrat"?)
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To: Mears
For your reference, my post just previously

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1353421/posts

I told my own daughter when she came back from school saying Bush is stupid to not protect nor subsidize the type of people who tell her that. They are not her parents and have only interest in their job, not her welfare, they could care less about her but of being the teacher and getting $$s, and that is why they want Bush out, to kill her, and keep their jobs.

8 posted on 03/01/2005 8:15:40 AM PST by vigilanteonvigilante
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I would talk to YOUR child and explain to him/her what your granddaughter told you. It is incumbent on your child to complain to the school principal and to the Board of Education about the teacher's activities. I haven't been in third grade in over fifty years, but I don't believe a third grade curriculum includes political science. Concededly, as a liberal, the teacher might have mistaken third graders for her intellectual comrades of the left, but what she's doing/done has NO place in a third grade class.
9 posted on 03/01/2005 8:16:11 AM PST by PzLdr (Liberals are like slugs-they leave a trail of slime wherever they go.)
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I'm glad you are trying to help your grand-daughter -- but what about the parents? I expect they see their child more often than you do (I'm guessing). Are they trying to achieve the same goal you are?

My child (born 1994) never knew Bill Clinton's actual name until she was 6 years old. But by the time she was 3 she could recognize him and call out "The President Who Lies All The Time is on TV!" That was his name as far as she was concerned. I take cedit for that.

Parents can counteract a great deal of what the Left tries to force on kids. But it's a daily struggle. It's little things, at every mealtime and during every news broadcast. The teacher spends hours with the child 5 days a week. Countering that takes daily effort.

10 posted on 03/01/2005 8:16:32 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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Home school, enough said.

Semper Fi


11 posted on 03/01/2005 8:17:23 AM PST by dd5339 (A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
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Is she mature enough to understand what a bigot is? Her teacher is one. Her teacher wants a stable supply of oil at the price of Arab blood. She is willing to ignore the suffering of millions of Arabs so she can enjoy the benefits of luxury that a stable oil-driven economy provides: like the convenience of a quick jaunt down to Starbuck's for a decaf latte at the expense of Arab children. Bernard Lewis would call her a bigot:

"There is some justice in one charge that is frequently leveled against the United States, and more generally against the West: Middle Easterners frequently complain that the West judges them by different and lower standards than it does Europeans and Americans, both in what is expected of them and what they may expect, in terms of their economic well-being and their political freedom. They assert that Western spokesmen repeatedly overlook or even defend actions and support rulers that they would not tolerate in their own countries.

...there is nevertheless a widespread [Western] perception that there are significant differences between the advanced Western world and the rest, notably the peoples of Islam, and that these latter are in some ways different, with the tacit assumption that they are inferior. The most flagrant violations of civil rights, political freedom, and even human decency are disregarded or glossed over, and crimes against humanity, which in a European or American country would evoke a storm of outrage, are seen as normal and even acceptable.

...The underlying assumption in all this is that these people are incapable of running a democratic society and have neither concern nor capacity for human decency."

The Crisis of Islam, Bernard Lewis, p104



13 posted on 03/01/2005 8:20:11 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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My son is in 3rd grade. We haven't had any serious problem with teachers like -- then again, he goes to a private school. However, my wife and I regularly talk to him about what we believe in and why we do. We see it as part of parenting.

Age nine is still a kid, but I don't think it's "so young" that they aren't starting to think about these things -- particularly in a household where the adults follow politics.
16 posted on 03/01/2005 8:23:55 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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A. Your granddaughter is too young to vote, so forget about it for now.

B. This teacher(?) is using it's bully pulpit in a reprehensible manner and should be dismissed.

C. This teacher(?) is just a Michael Moore wannabe on a power trip with a captive audience.

20 posted on 03/01/2005 8:32:07 AM PST by cowboyway (My Hero's have always been cowboys.)
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I received the following in email awhile back about the Dumbing Down of America.  Maine and New England are the worst culprits when it comes to our school system and the teachers trying to frame the young minds sitting before them in a class room.

I had watched Kelley Taylor Ryan's(public access show in southern Maine I

referred to previously) interview with the author of "The Deliberate Dumbing

Down of America". This author has in her book all the documentation to

support the following: Maine is leading the US in instituting a communist

curriculum in it's school systems to dumb-down the people so the power

seekers will have more malleable subjects. She has worked in the Maine school

systems since the 70's and as I said, has retained the documentation and

plans for how our government will accomplish this. The book is $50 and can

only be ordered from a private publisher so I do not have it as yet myself.

I do have "Cloning of The American Mind" and started reading it yesterday.

In it, Eakman explains how surveys mixed in with school achievement tests

are used to see how the dumbing-down is working and provide the means to see

where the curriculum needs to be changed.

Already, advertisers and politicians are using databases loaded with personal information on each one of us to target us for various sales ploys. As I read about this, the light bulb went off: Now picture one of these huge databases collecting

student's answers to surveys on their own personal laptop and using the

computer to gear curriculum for each individual student to influence their

morals, political views, and dumbing-down. Each student will have their own

curriculum programmed to manipulate their minds, their own personal

brainwasher, if you will. And guess which state is leading in attempting to

instill this program? – MAINE!

21 posted on 03/01/2005 8:32:08 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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What else could I have said to one so young?

You should tell her the noble history of the Republican Party, that it was founded as a bulwark against slavery, and has been doing so ever since.

Regards, Ivan

22 posted on 03/01/2005 8:34:57 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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Obviously, you inform her that the teacher is a liar.


23 posted on 03/01/2005 8:38:22 AM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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I then told her that I had voted for Bush

That's good. Give her some idea why you voted for Bush.

and that more people in the USA had wanted Bush for president than had wanted Kerry

That's fine but, I hope she doesn't take that to mean the majority is always (or even usually) right.

25 posted on 03/01/2005 8:41:21 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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Go to the teacher and tell that you will sue him If he won't tell the kids that Bush is cool.


28 posted on 03/01/2005 8:43:56 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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Back then if the teacher said something I would be more inckined to disagree with it! That stayed with me my whole life! They say I have a problem with authority, but the damn truth is I am doing great! Hahaha! (Chomping cigar!)


30 posted on 03/01/2005 8:50:43 AM PST by HitmanLV
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What else could I have said to one so young?

Sounds about right as far as what you could tell your grand-daughter. The teacher on the other hand would get a major piece of my mind, as well as the administrator of the school. I'm sure they're all fellow travellers, but I would put them on notice that I didn't approve of politics being discussed with a third grader in the manner that they had been conducted. assuming, of course, that the parents are on the same page as you are on this matter.

40 posted on 03/01/2005 9:15:38 AM PST by Space Wrangler
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Send the kid to Catholic school.

From a Catholic school graduate....


42 posted on 03/01/2005 9:20:56 AM PST by RushCrush (I like America to some extent. -Michael Moore)
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