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Auburn wins Sugar Bowl, joins Utah as co-faux-national champs
ABC TV and the Bogus Championship System | 1/3/05 | French figure skating judge

Posted on 01/03/2005 8:44:12 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat

Auburn beats VA Tech in the Sugar Bowl, 16-13, to finish the season undefeated. 2 days ago Utah whipped Pitt in the Fiesta Bowl to also complete an undefeated season.

USC and Oklahoma play tomorrow night in the bogus national championship game, but in truth, once again no one will know who was the best team this season.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: allabigscam; auburn; auburntigers; aufootball; bogaucity; collegefootball; fraud; goutes; itsallfigureskating; oklahoma; pagingtonybruno; playoffnow; sooners; southerncal; trojans; utah; utes; vatech; wareagle
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To: Diverdogz

I remember USC fans whining a lot last year about who played in the title game (Oklahoma and LSU) and what did it get them?.....Enough sympathy that USC remained number 1 throughout the year despite too many close calls (Cal..not as good as everyone thought and Oregon State...that powerhouse).

What did "whining" get Texas? A shot in the Rose Bowl. Seems the squeaky wheel does get the grease. Until we have a true playoff, like Division 1A and Division 2 football....we will always have these sorts of arguments.


41 posted on 01/03/2005 9:07:15 PM PST by MissouriConservative ( Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more; you should never wish to do less. - Robert E. Lee)
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To: Diverdogz
Auburn needed to blow Va Tech away, but it just didn't happen....Auburn should not get a share of a championship.

It amazes me that people actually think like this, that people can actually buy into the NCAA "winning every game is not enough" nonsense.

Division 1-A football is such a total joke and a fraud.

42 posted on 01/03/2005 9:07:24 PM PST by denydenydeny
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To: Arkinsaw

Same here for an LSU fan.


43 posted on 01/03/2005 9:07:30 PM PST by Bogey78O (Hillary Clinton + Fertility pills + Scott Peterson + rowboat = Success)
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To: Diverdogz

I have to agree. Auburn had to win convincingly. VT stood a chance at the end of the game. Auburn blew their chance.


44 posted on 01/03/2005 9:07:41 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: MissouriConservative

We'll see...we'll see. Personally, I don't care about conferences or schedules. As it is, there are only about ten schools that have an actual chance at a Title each year. The rest are just screwed, but no one will say that out loud. Had USC, Oklahoma, and Auburn all ended up with one regular-season loss, I'd have loved to see a Utah-Boise State Title game. :-) Teach those mucky-mucks a thing or two and watch all the big boys bitch and scream about how neither one "deserved" a title shot. If it's not settled on the field, then AFAIC, any team is just as deserving as another.


45 posted on 01/03/2005 9:07:47 PM PST by TheBigB ("Eat my rubber!"--Clark W. Griswold, Jr.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Written by the French figure skating judge from ABC?

Cool!

ROFL


46 posted on 01/03/2005 9:08:43 PM PST by El Gran Salseron ( The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own risk. :-))
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To: sinkspur

Bama has a long history of National Championships. If you ever lived in the state (perhaps you have), you'd understand the inferiority complex of Auburn fans. Its pitiful to watch.


47 posted on 01/03/2005 9:08:59 PM PST by Diverdogz
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To: Husker8877

(at) Utah 52, BYU 21
USC 42, (at) BYU 10

(at) Utah 63, Colorado St. 31
(at) USC 49, Colorado St. 0

Utah 23, (at)Arizona 6
(at)USC 49, Arizona 9

(at)Utah 41, Texas A&M 21
OU 42, (at)Texas A&M 35

Not that much of a difference between the USC, OU, and Utah, especially if OU wins tomorrow night.


48 posted on 01/03/2005 9:09:14 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Husker8877
Dude, I don't think this is the year for Husker Fan to run smack on the Utes. Utah went undefeated, while the Blackshirts are now afraid to schedule the Houston Cougars and instead scheduled I-AA MAINE next year. Why not schedule Division III Kenyon College and Ohio Northern University while you're at it; you need a few easy wins to get to .500 and be eligible to play in Boise, Idaho next December.

What the hell is going on in Lincoln anyway?

49 posted on 01/03/2005 9:10:32 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: TheBigB

I hope that tomorrow's game is as close or closer than tonights.....it might accelerate the death of the BCS. A true champion can be decided where it should be...on the field instead of in a smokey back room where deals can be made...for example Texas' pleading to get into the Rose Bowl.

A simple playoff system using the top 4 or 8 teams...take an extra couple of weekends and stop all this stupid ranting from year to year.

Playoffs now!!!


50 posted on 01/03/2005 9:10:33 PM PST by MissouriConservative ( Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more; you should never wish to do less. - Robert E. Lee)
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To: fso301

The FB Allen is a new kid. The other guy got hurt. The starting FB Kinzer probably would have caught the ball.


51 posted on 01/03/2005 9:11:42 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: MissouriConservative

I didn't think Texas should have been in the Rose Bowl, but I have to admit, they walked the walk when they got there.


52 posted on 01/03/2005 9:12:18 PM PST by TheBigB ("Eat my rubber!"--Clark W. Griswold, Jr.)
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To: Diverdogz

Oh you are not kidding about that. Believe me, I know. The whole setup down there at the barn now with Tubs, the new AD (i.e., Pat Dye's bag man), Lowder, and lets not forget Richardson will be plenty of fun to watch for the next 2 or 3 years.


53 posted on 01/03/2005 9:12:32 PM PST by panzer_grey
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To: Diddle E. Squat

What would make sense would be to have Utah play at USC, Auburn at OK, and have the winners of the 2 games settle the championship at a neutral site.


54 posted on 01/03/2005 9:12:34 PM PST by thoughtomator (Flush twice, it's a long way to France)
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To: TheBigB
Auburn's strength of schedule rating was #73 in the nation. USC was #13 and Oklahoma was #31.

It was explained during the game that Auburn originally had scheduled Bowling Green, but BG pulled out to play Oklahoma leaving Auburn searching for a fill in game. Thats how they got the Citidel. I agree with those who want a playoff, any voting selection has about as much logic as a coin toss. Leave politics out of sports championships. I say this because with the voting, even if USC lost a game and OK lost a game, there are writers and coaches who would not rank AU number one. Voting sucks.

55 posted on 01/03/2005 9:13:22 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Dolphy

Most(perhaps all) universities are still out this week, so a game this weekend doesn't affect them. So that leaves only 2 teams where it might affect the athlete's academics, but that would be for only 2 weeks at most (at the beginning of the semester), hardly a big deal. Especially since football players miss less class than the basketball players. Then add in that even the best football programs are on average only going to make it to the final game about 1 of every 5 years at most, and probably even less frequently. Since many classes only meet once or twice a week, not much different than a snow day.


56 posted on 01/03/2005 9:14:05 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
There is no way to say for certain that OU or USC are better than Auburn or Utah.

And nor would a single-elimination tournament prove it, either. At least in baseball you play a series.

57 posted on 01/03/2005 9:14:14 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Yeah, on the field is the only way it gets settled. That's the reason I don't pay that much attention to college ball anymore. Auburn and Utah really are getting screwed. If you go undefeated, what else can you do? I don't think Utah could stay on the field with OU, USC or Auburn, but the point is, they don't get a chance to try. Besides, how does a team like Utah build the image and reputation they need to recruit if they're automatically frozen out of the big one, no matter how well they play?


58 posted on 01/03/2005 9:14:36 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Crawford Pirates, Texas State Football Champions!!!!!!!)
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To: panzer_grey

As a Hokie, I was just as disgusted at the VT players talking trash during the game. When you are behind 16-0, you should run your route, not your mouth.


59 posted on 01/03/2005 9:14:50 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: TheBigB

You damn right dey did, Hook 'em!


60 posted on 01/03/2005 9:15:12 PM PST by mcg1969
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