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The Hobbit Hole XIII - Let them pass! Let them pass!
See our freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net home page! ^

Posted on 07/13/2004 9:49:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Let them pass! Let them pass!
(Note to dwarves, this is only meant figuratively)

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

See also: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net

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To: SuziQ

Thanks, Clare!

I won't have cable, so watching them on tv isn't an option - and I don't like dubbing, no matter how good it is. Will Funimation release them on dvd at any point, I hope? Though it'll take a while...

Will have to look for the other alchemy manga. Mwahahaha. Oh, and how would you be able to get me post-31 episodes? That aren't raw, I mean? I couldn't follow a raw episode...


841 posted on 07/14/2004 2:33:27 PM PDT by JenB (Colorado or Bust: 15 Days)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Corin Stormhands; Overtaxed; Bear_in_RoseBear; Rose in RoseBear; RosieCotton; JenB; ..
Ecurb!! Can you fix this?? Maybe have some place where the servicemembers that go to the link have a place to check in??

Hmmm, good idea... I'll think on it. In the meantime, I will put up my webmaster email address that they can send stuff to.

And speaking of the Hobbit Hole site, I updated it a bit recently, but had forgotten to ping everyone. I added some pics to the knife page (thanks for sending them, Winmag), and posted a few email "testimonials" that had been posted here on the thread recently.

842 posted on 07/14/2004 2:34:56 PM PDT by ecurbh (I love my wife.)
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Woo Hoo!

Mover dude called....I get furniture tomorrow morning.


843 posted on 07/14/2004 3:00:11 PM PDT by Overtaxed (I'm a baaaaaad hobbit.)
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To: Fedora
It's scary stuff. You know it amazes me that what we can plainly see is ignored by those who can do something to stop it.

Have you ever read None Dare Call it Treason? It's about the same topic you excerpted for me. The communist influence in our State Department during the beginning of the Cold War.

844 posted on 07/14/2004 3:12:33 PM PDT by ksen (Free the GRPL 3! (Woody, CaRepubGal, Wrigley))
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To: Wneighbor
Jill's the only one that for real stayed blonde.

FOR REAL!?!?

I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!

845 posted on 07/14/2004 3:14:14 PM PDT by ksen (Free the GRPL 3! (Woody, CaRepubGal, Wrigley))
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To: JenB
Oh, they'll definately have DVDs, I just don't know when they'll be out. Maybe a couple months after the television premiere? I'll look into it...

As for post 31 episodes with subtitles? Sorry, but I've adopted sort of a moral opposition to getting subbed eps after a series is licenced, especially since I'm getting to understand Japanese better anyway.
Besides, most of the subbers who continue after licencing are little jerks like AnimeJunkies, who I'd sooner commit seppuku than download anything from.

So if you want FMA goodness and don't wanna wait for the domestic DVDs to start trickling out, you're gonna have to watch the raws. Although, I might be able to give you rough transcripts of what's going on if you REALLY wanna know. They'd probably be terribly inaccurate though ^^; Hm.. I wonder if anyone out there is still doing episode summaries...

846 posted on 07/14/2004 3:19:51 PM PDT by Soupy (hito wa nani ka wo gisei nashi ni nani mo eru koto wa dekinai)
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To: ksen

"Have you ever read None Dare Call it Treason? It's about the same topic you excerpted for me. The communist influence in our State Department during the beginning of the Cold War."

Yes, that book is a good resource on that subject. Another good one is Arthur Herman's biography of Joseph McCarthy, which incorporates a lot of new information about the China hands in the State Department.


847 posted on 07/14/2004 3:33:22 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: Soupy

Ha! You got logged in!

I haven't developed anime-downloading-morals yet, except that downloading anything I can get legitimately is wrong. Unless it's, say, one episode to decide if I want to get a series.

I understand so little Japanese... a couple phrases, the connection words, the suffixes. Raw probably wouldn't work for me, I'll just have to wait I suppose.


848 posted on 07/14/2004 3:40:55 PM PDT by JenB (Colorado or Bust: 15 Days)
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To: Soupy

Animenetworks link bookmarked, thanks.


849 posted on 07/14/2004 3:43:54 PM PDT by ksen (Free the GRPL 3! (Woody, CaRepubGal, Wrigley))
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To: SuziQ

Well, I went to the homeschool curriculum consignment shop and got 4 items...one of them was Matthew's english teachers edition text (my most espensive item!)

Here is what I got, the brand new price and what I actually paid at the end in parenthesis...

057315 K5 Beginnings Reader Set (ABC; 2nd ed.) 28.00 (19.50)
007393 Student Response Cards 5.50 (1.65)
007724 Writing/Grammar 5 Teacher’s Edition 41.50 (24.99)
048041 Spelling 5 Home Teacher’s Edition (updated) 21.50 (9.99)


850 posted on 07/14/2004 3:45:54 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: ksen
FOR REAL!?!? I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!

hehehe... I just change hair color according to mood.

Course, I only changed twice in my life. I was fixin' to go back to red... but a whole bunch of friends talked me out of it.

851 posted on 07/14/2004 4:09:20 PM PDT by Wneighbor (OH! It's almost time to leave!)
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To: JenB
Looks like Full Metal Alchemist is pretty controversial:

HERE'S THE 6 PUBBIES WHO VOTED WITH THE DEMS AGAINST THE FMA

:-)

852 posted on 07/14/2004 4:15:36 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: SuziQ

"And with that, I'm off! *webslings away*"

Hey, cool!--how'd you do that? :)


853 posted on 07/14/2004 4:16:18 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: ksen
The same goes for Patton in regards to the Soviet Union.

The atom bomb and the B-29 were about two years behind schedule. (What else is new with government projects?). First use was intended on Germany.

What if Patton had release authority for six atom bombs in August, 1943? My own guess is he'd have used one on Berlin, and the rest on the USSR. By 1950, Europe would look politically like it does in 2004, although it would still glow a bit in the dark.

I actually think we owe Kim il Sung, the fat crackpot commie dictator of N Korea, a debt of gratitude. He forgot the promise he made to Mao and Stalin, and jumped the gun on his part of the war. I've read some convincing arguments that Stalin was planning on launching World War III in Europe in 1952, with the invasion of Taiwan and S Korea as supporting moves. The USSR still had massive conventional forces in Europe, while the US and England unilaterally disarmed, and the rest of western Europe was militarily worthless. And he'd have enough nukes to deter any American nuclear response. The conquest of Taiwan and Korea would be icing on the cake, with a cherry on top.

By being too eager, North Korea, which was never a match for any substantial American forces, short-circuited Stalin's plan, and forced the USSR and red China to bail him out of a deep hole.

If either the atom bomb arrived on time, or Kim il Sung kept to the original plan, the whole world could have turned out a lot better, or a lot worse, than it did.

854 posted on 07/14/2004 4:28:16 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: 2Jedismom
Have you ever checked ebay for used textbooks? A couple of places I've gotten books from are half.com and Allbookstores.com . The former is mostly individual sellers, and I've never had any problems with any of the books I've bought. The latter compares prices from a variety of vendors, some new, some used.

If you know the ISBN of the edition you need, that's the quickest way to search on either site, but you can search by Title, Author and Keyword, as well. You always need to check to make sure that the edition date is the one you need. I've forgotten and ordered the wrong edition in a couple of cases, but they were pretty cheap, so it wasn't a hugh loss for me.

855 posted on 07/14/2004 4:55:08 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: Wneighbor

I just realized that, except for hair color, Myranda looks just like you! What a lucky gal she is!


856 posted on 07/14/2004 4:55:59 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: 2Jedismom

By the way, those are good prices on those books!


857 posted on 07/14/2004 4:56:34 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: SuziQ

Heh. I thought Myranda looked very much like her dad! Thanks though. I think she's beeyouteeful! /mom vanity


858 posted on 07/14/2004 5:00:29 PM PDT by Wneighbor (OH! It's almost time to leave!)
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To: 300winmag

Very interesting comments. Any recommended reading on any of that?

On the a-bomb schedule, another interesting thing I've read is an argument that Werner Heisenberg sabotaged the Nazis' a-bomb program, otherwise they might've had one before we did. Japan was also close to getting one, according to this book I got recently but haven't had a chance to finish yet (Philip Henshall, "The Nuclear Axis: Germany, Japan and the Atom Bomb Race, 1939-1945").

On the Soviets' European plans, Anthony Cave Brown's "Dropshot" is really interesting. It records that after the Soviets dropped their first a-bomb in 1949, the Pentagon did a study assessing the threat and possible responses. A pre-emptive strike was considered by Sec. Defense Louis Johnson but ruled out, and instead a war plan was drawn up for the contingency of a Soviet first strike. The wargame scenario was premised on the assumption that war would break out by about 1957 (a date chosen somewhat arbitrarily but based on estimates of anticipated advancements in the Soviet nuclear program); however in real-time the goal was for US forces to be combat-ready by 1950. Based on wargame calculations, the Dropshot planners concluded we needed more strategic air build-up in order to sustain the logistics of a sufficient bombing campaign. The conclusion was that, "In the event of war in 1950, the Air Force can a) complete the atomic phase of the planned strategic air offensive b) provide inadequate air defense for the United States and Canada c) initiate mobilization and training." The Air Force could not "a) complete the entire air offensive called for or b) provide the air defense for the United States and Alaska with the maximum risk we can afford to take."


859 posted on 07/14/2004 5:05:15 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: ksen

Meant to include you on 859.


860 posted on 07/14/2004 5:07:13 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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