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The Hobbit Hole XIII - Let them pass! Let them pass!
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Posted on 07/13/2004 9:49:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Let them pass! Let them pass!
(Note to dwarves, this is only meant figuratively)

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: ksen
Churchill's 4-volume History of the English-Speaking Peoples is very good as well.

Oh yeah, that's got beach reading all over it...

821 posted on 07/14/2004 1:57:42 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I'm going on vacation in 16 days...)
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To: Corin Stormhands
I second g'nad suggestion of Starship Troopers. So it's technically science fiction, but I think you'd get as much out of it, as out of a good piece of non-fiction.
822 posted on 07/14/2004 1:59:57 PM PDT by JenB (Colorado or Bust: 15 Days)
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To: ksen

"Manchester's biography of General MacArthur was good."

I'll have to check that one out. I read Michael Schaller's MacArthur bio recently and it was informative but not fair to MacArthur, IMO. Is Manchester pro-MacArthur?


823 posted on 07/14/2004 2:00:22 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: JenB

But I've already place my Amazon order...hmmm...I'll run by Barnes & Noble...


824 posted on 07/14/2004 2:00:45 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I'm going on vacation in 16 days...)
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To: Corin Stormhands
You won't be sorry... have you read any Heinlein, at all? You ought to also read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, at least.

And if Rose sees this post you'll have an even longer reading list...

825 posted on 07/14/2004 2:02:54 PM PDT by JenB (Colorado or Bust: 15 Days)
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To: Fedora
I'll have to check that one out. I read Michael Schaller's MacArthur bio recently and it was informative but not fair to MacArthur, IMO. Is Manchester pro-MacArthur?

I don't remember Manchester being unfair. In fact when I was done I had a great respect for the old general.

BTW, if we had listened to him when the communists first drove Chiang-Kai-Sheck(SP?) from mainland China we probably wouldn't have the Red Chinese to deal with today. Or for that matter if we had listened to him during Korea there'd probably be one democratic Korea on the peninsula today.

The same goes for Patton in regards to the Soviet Union.

826 posted on 07/14/2004 2:05:05 PM PDT by ksen (Free the GRPL 3! (Woody, CaRepubGal, Wrigley))
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To: Corin Stormhands
Oh yeah, that's got beach reading all over it...

Churchill's style is very easy to read.

827 posted on 07/14/2004 2:06:13 PM PDT by ksen (Free the GRPL 3! (Woody, CaRepubGal, Wrigley))
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To: JenB; g'nad; Rose in RoseBear
I've not read any Heinlein. Should I still start with Starship Troopers?

(and a list is exactly what I've been wanting...)

828 posted on 07/14/2004 2:07:56 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I'm going on vacation in 16 days...)
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To: ksen

Yes, but it still feels more fireplace/sweaterish...


829 posted on 07/14/2004 2:09:10 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I'm going on vacation in 16 days...)
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To: Corin Stormhands

My wife and daughter are at teen camp for the week, time to go feed the boys........they are eyeing the dog a little suspiciously.....


830 posted on 07/14/2004 2:10:16 PM PDT by ksen (Free the GRPL 3! (Woody, CaRepubGal, Wrigley))
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To: Corin Stormhands
Yes, but keep in mind it's quite different from his other stuff. I like the books he wrote for 14 year old boys, back in the 50s. I think Bear and Rose like his later stuff. We all agree that Starship Troopers and Moon is a Harsh Mistress are good.
831 posted on 07/14/2004 2:11:47 PM PDT by JenB (Colorado or Bust: 15 Days)
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To: ksen

"The same goes for Patton in regards to the Soviet Union."

Exactly.

On the Red China thing, here's a clip from something I wrote you may find interesting:

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Currie, Service, Vincent, and Acheson's Policies Towards China and Korea

Throughout World War II, Soviet agents had worked to undermine US support for the Nationalist rivals of the Chinese Communists. One of the Soviet agents active in this effort was Laughlin Currie, a member of the Rauh-Prichard-Graham group's "Goon Squad" who was also a member of a Soviet spy ring called the "Silvermaster group", after its leader Nathan Gregory Silvermaster. In 1942 Currie recommended that the post of ambassador to China should be filled by either Vincent or Owen Lattimore, a China expert who had been recruited to government service in 1941 by Currie and Soviet agent Harry Dexter White. This recommendation was not acted upon, but in 1945, when the State Department was reorganized under Byrnes, Vincent, who was the department's head of China Affairs, recommended that Lattimore be offered a job in the department. Lattimore was not hired because the department's outgoing Far Eastern expert vetoed his appointment, but Vincent became Acheson's main advisor on Southeast Asia policy and also worked closely with him on China policy. Vincent and Service persuaded Acheson that the US should support the Chinese Communists to drive a wedge between China and Russia.

After adopting this policy, Acheson stated to Congressman Walter Judd in early 1947 that he did not see an imminent threat of Communism taking over China. Meanwhile, Acheson's superior in the State Department, Secretary of State George Marshall—-whose career had been promoted by Soviet agent Harry Hopkins-—secretly prepared to abandon US commitments to Taiwan and establish US relations with a unified Communist China. When Acheson replaced Marshall as Secretary of State in 1949, he advocated abandoning Taiwan and recognizing Communist China to drive a wedge between China and Russia. Applying this policy to US relations with South Korea, Acheson announced on January 12, 1950 that South Korea lay outside the US defense perimeter, publicizing the conclusions of a top-secret National Security Council military analysis called "Plan Dropshot" that had been developed by a panel of advisors which included Marshall. Two weeks after Acheson's announcement, on January 30, Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin telegrammed the Soviet ambassador in North Korea that he would provide military support to North Korea, which the Soviet ambassador took as approval to plan an offensive against South Korea.


832 posted on 07/14/2004 2:11:52 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: Wneighbor

Ooh...I LOVE her hair! She didn't have it down like that before, did she?


833 posted on 07/14/2004 2:12:08 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: Corin Stormhands
It was predestined...
834 posted on 07/14/2004 2:12:39 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: Corin Stormhands

First Heinlein I read was "Puppet Masters", which got me hooked.


835 posted on 07/14/2004 2:12:47 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: ksen; JenB; Fedora; HairOfTheDog; ecurbh; g'nad; 2Jedismom; RosieCotton; SuziQ; Bear_in_RoseBear; ..
Thanks for all of the suggestions (keep 'em coming, I just won't get 'em all read in a week).

I'm outta here. Gotta meet everyone at church. It's "summer choir" so we don't have practice (we just re-sing an older number on Sunday), but Luke has his class and Nana has prayer meeting.

Wife and I start an Acting Class in our Performing Arts Department tonite. Church is really doing a good job of preparing folks to live and minister in the creative arts community and in our annual productions.

Of course the Acting classes were designed for those who have little or no actual stage experience. We don't have a lot, but wife and I commented that the people who signed up are...the actors. Should make for a better class.

But come cast posting time in September, we'll have the same round of complaints from people saying "why do all the same people always get the lead roles?"

Later.

836 posted on 07/14/2004 2:15:58 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I'm going on vacation in 16 days...)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Have a good time at church. The acting class sounds fun!


837 posted on 07/14/2004 2:21:07 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: Corin Stormhands
How come she don't have yer blonde hair?

All 3 of us had blonde hair when we was little. Jill's the only one that for real stayed blonde.

838 posted on 07/14/2004 2:22:56 PM PDT by Wneighbor (OH! It's almost time to leave!)
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To: RosieCotton

I think all the pictures I've ever posted before were before her haircut. Her hair was past-waist-length and she often wore it up. But, *snif*, she cut it.

I think it's cute on her though. I just loved the waist length elvish look.


839 posted on 07/14/2004 2:25:41 PM PDT by Wneighbor (OH! It's almost time to leave!)
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To: JenB

*Clare again!*

The truth is, shortly after episode 31 was released the series got licenced for American distrubution by Funimation (the people who licenced Fruits Basket, incidentally.) So, getting subtitled episodes from 32 up is pretty hard (I don't even try.) However, you can still find raw, or unsubbed, episodes up to the current Japanese one if you look hard. Or I could bake you some cookies ^_^

You could also wait until November when the series will premier on Adult Swim, either in the 11:00 or the 11:30 timeslot, I don't remember. And seeing as the Fruits Basket dub was quite nice, this one oughta be pretty good as well ^_^ The downside being that they probably won't be up to the current Japanese episodes until this time next year.

As for other anime? Hmm... Samurai 7 is pretty cool so far, kinda like Akira Kurosawa meets Samurai Jack. Other than that I can't really think of anything that isn't already licenced (I would have recomended Mermaid's Forest, but ADV picked it up just last weekend. Yikes.)

By the way, I hear the guy who did Rurouni Kenshin started another manga, which, oddly enough, features alchemy (it's not FMA.) I don't know much about it, but you might wanna look into it.

And with that, I'm off! *webslings away*


840 posted on 07/14/2004 2:29:11 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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