Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles

Theres that number 19 again.

Deal hummingbird.

From message #9:
"If by it he surprises by instructions from verses carry out the seizure of the heavy weapons of Iraq and the light one and its storage in the desert near the Iranian borders for the eradication of the Sunnis if what were ordered that ."

I guess that stuff about killing other muslims is just garbage! What do you suppose is meant by "the light one"? This is the second time I have seen this wording. Can't remember where I saw it the first time.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eom_and_daleel/files/EOM/

Here ya go :)

Thanks, anyway!

Has anyone tried searching in Italian yet? I thought it was posted in Italian.

Did you ever email Debka?

Thanks, jstolzen; I bookmarked the site to read in full later. I did scan the site and some of what is there has been here and on other sites before. Bodansky and his views are well respected by many on this board, I would venture to say. I, for one, have always found his views interesting, just hard to understand on tv! It is much better to read what he says because of his accent. I think it is good to throw all the possibilities on the table.

As an aside, I would say that you should not worry. Just be prepared as you would for any potential emergency, were it storm or terror related. The purpose of these threads is to help people prepare and keep an eye on things, not have their blood pressure raised unnecessarily. But I guess we all have different personalities. What brings comfort to some of us may accomplish the opposite in others.

For me, I like to entertain all possibilities and I have a need to know; I am that way about everything. I have an unsatiable curiosity and a mind that will not turn off, especially in matters of politics and religion and now, national security. But things like national security never worry me because it is the knowledge and awareness that I seek that gives me what I crave. I think if I had the knowledge and awareness of GWB, I would sleep like an absolute baby! But none of my family members are like me in this way. They do not care to know about this in any depth. On the other hand, I want to know what may happen before it happens even if it never happens.

Help, JP! Please ping your huge ping list for this interesting article posted by FairOpinion. It is called, "Report: New York Must Keep Focus on Anti-Terror." One thing that this piece shows is that the dems -- the dem-controlled NYS Assembly in this case -- are not prioritizing NY's terror efforts. Small wonder...Probably true across the U.S. This is the link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1054169/posts

"Oh, my...I would read this right before trying to get to sleep early.."

Chuckle...that is what I was saying to myself a few hours ago! [stifling a few yawns]

I am not doubting you, but why is oceanview able to report that there are no truck or car checks heading from NJ into NY then? What are your thoughts on this, if you want and can share them.

I have thought of the China threat much in the last 5-6 years. Sometimes I wonder if China wouldn't rather simply own the American market than just trade with us!

Here another one to give you background on the EOM "phenomona"

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eom_and_daleel/message/1525

Naw, only this week for me. I'm off of work! :)

"He has literally been more of an ally to us than his vitriol suggests. Really."

I came to the conclusion early on that EOM is more than one person and, unlike what another poster suggested, he's no teenager. I haven't read all of his posts.

Adding on to post no. 8392

http://www.news4jax.com/news/2749376/detail.html

"Military ID Badges, Uniforms Stolen From Air Force Base

Authorities Issue 'All Points Bulletin' For Woman"

POSTED: 7:33 a.m. EST January 8, 2004

Adding on to post no. 9435...

http://www.nipc.gov/warnings/infobulletins/2003/Potential%20Terrorist%20Use.htm

Information Bulletin

Potential Terrorist Use of Official Identification, Uniforms, or Vehicles

July 22, 2003

OVERVIEW:
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Information Bulletins are informational in nature and are designed to provide updates on the training, tactics, or strategies of terrorists. The following information is meant to advise the owners and operators of the nation's infrastructures about the possible use by terrorists of official identification, uniforms, or vehicles to gain access to sensitive facilities for purposes of planning or carrying out attacks. (In this Information Bulletin, "official" refers to recognized implements of federal, state, and local governments and private sector entities.) While DHS possesses no information indicating an organized effort by extremist elements in the United States to illegally obtain official identification, uniforms, or vehicles in furtherance of terrorist activities, it has identified the recent theft or disappearance of large numbers of these items. Attempts to acquire official identification, uniforms, or vehicles would be consistent with the tactics and techniques of Al-Qaeda and other extremist groups, according to a variety of reporting sources.

DETAILS:
Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups likely view the theft or other illegal acquisition of official identification, uniforms, or vehicles as an effective way to increase access and decrease scrutiny in furtherance of planning and operations. Although we possess no information that Al-Qaeda or other terrorist groups are systematically pursuing the illegal acquisition of the above referenced items, there is indeed precedence for the use of official identification, uniforms, or vehicles in the execution of terrorist attacks. Terrorist groups have utilized police or military uniforms to mask their identities and achieve closer access to their targets without arousing suspicion. This was illustrated in the December 2002, suicide bombings that targeted the Chechen Government Headquarters in Groznyy, Russia. Terrorists in South America, the Philippines and Pakistan have commandeered or stolen emergency medical services vehicles and uniforms (or cleverly designed imitations) to facilitate the execution of their attacks on key facilities.

In an effort to understand the extent of official identification, uniform, and vehicle thefts, DHS recently conducted a survey of selected members of the law enforcement community in five states. This survey revealed that from February to May 2003 hundreds of official identification cards, badges, decals, uniforms, and government license plates were reported stolen or lost. Additionally, a number of private companies have reported receiving suspicious inquiries about renting official delivery vehicles and emergency services representatives have received unusual requests for detailed vehicle descriptions. There is no historical baseline to compare recent theft or suspicious inquiry data, and the intent or resolution of many of the thefts cannot be determined.

The worldwide proliferation of individuals or "companies" that traffic in high-quality imitations of official identification, uniforms, or vehicles is a related issue that increases the possibility such items could be used to facilitate future terrorist attacks and further complicates efforts to prevent their acquisition. For example, earlier this month the New York City High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area (HIDTA) Task Force reported that it had identified a Japanese website selling near exact replicas of badges from law enforcement agencies such as the U.S. Secret Service, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Drug Enforcement Agency, U.S. Marshals Service, and Los Angeles Police Department.

Several press reports this year have referred to the theft and sale over the Internet of a large number of United Parcel Service (UPS) uniforms. Although these reports proved to be false, they did bring to the public's attention the potential security concerns of missing or stolen identification, uniforms, or vehicles.

DHS reminds all recipients to remain vigilant to the disappearance of, or unauthorized inquiries regarding, official identification cards, badges, decals, uniforms, government license plates, and vehicles and establish practices that account for missing items. DHS encourages recipients to report suspicious incidents to the proper authorities and to remain vigilant for any nexus to terrorism

PROTECTIVE MEASURES:
Recognizing that possession of some combination of official identification cards, badges, decals, uniforms, government license plates, and vehicles tends to reduce suspicion and might allow an individual or vehicle greater access to sensitive facilities, the following protective measures are suggested:

Keep comprehensive records of all official identification cards, badges, decals, uniforms, and license plates distributed, documenting any anomalies and canceling access to items that are lost or stolen.

Practice accountability of all vehicles to include tracking vehicles that are in service, in repair status, or sent to salvage. (1)

Safeguard uniforms, patches, badges, ID cards, and other forms of official identification to protect against unauthorized access to facilities, to include stripping all decommissioned vehicles slated for resale and/or salvage of all agency identifying markings and emergency warning devices. (2)

Check multiple forms of valid identification for each facility visitor.

Verify the legitimate business needs of all approaching vehicles and personnel.

Improve identification card technology to eliminate reuse or unauthorized duplication.

Alert uniform store vendors of the need to establish and verify the identities of individuals seeking to purchase uniform articles.

Ensure all personnel are provided a security briefing regarding present and emerging threats.

DHS encourages recipients of this Information Bulletin to report information concerning suspicious or criminal activity to law enforcement or a DHS watch office. The DHS Information Analysis and Infrastructure Protection watch offices may be contacted at:

For private citizens and companies - Phone: (202) 323-3205, 1-888-585-9078
Email: nipc.watch@fbi.gov
Online: http://www.nipc.gov/incident/cirr.htm
For Telecom industry - Phone: (703) 607-4950
Email: ncs@dhs.gov
For Federal agencies/departments - Phone: (888) 282-0870
Email: fedcirc@fedcirc.gov
Online: https://incidentreport.fedcirc.gov

DHS intends to update this Information Bulletin should it receive additional relevant information, including information provided to it by the user community. Based on this notification, no change to the Homeland Security Advisory System level (HSAS) is anticipated; the current HSAS level is YELLOW.

(1). Maryland Security Intelligence Bureau/Maryland State Police, "Emergency Services Equipment and the
Terrorist Potential," June 20, 2003, Volume 8, Number 47, p. 2.
(2). Maryland Security Intelligence Bureau/Maryland State Police, "Emergency Services Equipment
and the Terrorist Potential," June 20, 2003, Volume 8, Number 47, p. 2, 3.

Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that though we are sleeping through the night, there are untold numbers who are standing watch over us, both here and abroad. Father, we cannot begin to know the stresses placed upon them, for each must be vigilant and perceptive and knowledgeable and quick to sound the alarm. That we continue to sleep safely is a testament to Your loving care and to their diligence. Grant them continued success, O God, for the enemy would have us desolate.

We grieve at the loss of our sons and daughters in this war on terrorism ... shorten these days of war by Your power and might, that the enemy be rendered totally powerless and incapable to rise again to claim other victims. Unite the nations as we seek those who wish us harm ... let none escape ... we seek Your protection, even as they seek our destruction.

Heavenly Father, I pray that You will continue to bless these United States, not by merit of our own, but for the sake of Jesus, the Prince of Peace, in whose Name I pray, Amen ...

The interview with the pilot's wife of the downed Egypt charter jet was aired tonight. It was a very short interview in a darkened room as though she did not want to be seen. She said her husband was in the Middle East because he was learning to fly commercial jets. He had told her that he loved flying and probably would die flying. He has two daughters from another marriage that live in Canada and the rest of his family lives in Egypt.

It really did not shed much light into the background of this man who seemed to lead many lives.....

Excerpt from news article: "He was a dual citizen of Egypt and the United States, a committed husband and a one-time fighter pilot. He also was a Freemason, an intelligence officer for the National Guard, a security expert and a government-trained cavalry scout, depending on the circumstances.

Abdelhamid's wife of 11 years, Madeline Witney of Palm Springs, heard about the crash on the news as she was driving to work Sunday and immediately began worrying that her husband was somehow involved. Later that day, it was all but confirmed.

But even Witney admits there were gaps in what she knew about Abdelhamid. He was interested in many things and involved in endeavors of all kinds. There were long stretches of time spent apart.

An accomplished pilot who flew jets for the Egyptian air force when he was in his 20s, Abdelhamid was in Cairo to finish his commercial aviation training, his wife said.

His family owns Flash Airlines, the charter service shuttling tourists to Paris at the time of the crash, she said. The couple were talking about where they would live once he earned his license to fly large passenger jets.

Friends say Abdelhamid was keenly interested in subjects and events the world over. He owned two businesses in San Diego, a janitorial service and a company that cleaned construction sites, they said. He worked on a master's degree in his spare time.

Abdelhamid worked part time as a security guard for the San Diego Convention Center between 1997 and 1999, and held current firearms, baton and guard permits from the state Bureau of Security and Investigative Services.

He also had a foreign-based transport plane pilot's license, although one friend said he lost his job as a cargo pilot after the September 2001 terrorist attacks because of his ethnicity. U.S. government officials interviewed him after those attacks." End of article.....

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Does anyone know anything about the Freemasons, would a muslim join a group like this? I think more will come out in the coming days about this man and this crash. Perhaps more will be found on the group Ansar al Haq that claimed responsibility for the crash.

Another question I have is why would a man who flew in the Egyptian Airforce plus many more years of experience take off when he had trouble while still on the ground with this plane according to a phone call made by a passenger?

I tried some searches using italian words. Haven't emailed debka. Don't suppose you'd like to drop 'em a line?

amd thank you Lord for your grace and mercy.
We are all sinners and ask your forgiveness.

Thank you Lord Jesus.
May we continue to look to You for guidance and comfort.

Amen.