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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: joyful1
This is getting old. Wolf wolf wolf

You called?

2,421 posted on 12/15/2003 1:26:34 PM PST by COBOL2Java (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: LayoutGuru2
He must be talking about when Saddam invaded Kuwait -g-
2,422 posted on 12/15/2003 1:36:07 PM PST by JustPiper (Saddam gives new meaning to "Ace in the Hole")
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To: tubavil
Let's get...


2,423 posted on 12/15/2003 1:37:54 PM PST by NewLand (economy's up, democrats down, we found Saddam in a hole in the ground...)
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To: LayoutGuru2
Thanks for pinging me.
2,424 posted on 12/15/2003 2:35:55 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy; mabelkitty; JustPiper; freeperfromnj; flutters; Dog; Sabertooth; Cindy; yonif; ...
The site sounds like an active Al Qaeda Cell. They even direct funds from here.

I found MoveOn.org linked in here along with a few Palestine sites and a group the fronts on behalf of Jews from Tel Aviv.

http://www.us.altnews.com.au/nuke/article.php?sid=6110&mode=thread&order=0

[headliner.nl] Hussein Captured in Hometown of Tikrit, Bremer Says (Update1)

Posted by kalston on Sunday, December 14 @ 12:22:42 EST


(First a comment by Aeisha Muhammad from the Shk Ussama Bin Mohammed Bin Ladin group.)
As-Salaamu' Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatu
I think that those who are gloating and celebrating the alleged capture of Saddam Hussein should take a closer look at the video and listen carefully to what the Coalition forces and their Zionist agents on the Governing Counsel have said.

The video could have been fabricated successfully, as the US has done in the past. Certainly the Coalition is very desperate to make themselves look triumphant in front of the world's eyes to justify the criminal and illegal act that they carried out in Iraq. Certainly a captured Hussein, even if it is fabricated or false capture, would give the kaffir what they need, but I have grave doubts about what they have said and presented.

ALLAH knows best and surely time will tell, but I would not be surprised to hear an audio tape coming from Saddam Hussein down the road. I grant you that I could be wrong but it is how I am feeling about this situation right now. Things do not add up correctly regarding this capture. We have been told that he was captured without a struggle and that he was positively identified, but the DNA question was carefully eluded by General Sanchez.

As we all know, Saddam Hussein had many identical look alikes. Could it be possible that the one they captured was a look-alike??? Only ALLAH knows but I am not convinced by what I have seen and heard thus far because the US needs an exit from the quicksand in Iraq and that in itself is reason enough for me to doubt what they claim. Nevertheless, whether he was really captured or not is not going to change the situation in Iraq. Iraq is a currently a pit of competing interests which will take time to settle. The Mujahideen and the Fedayeen are NOT going to just walk away based on this report either, so the Coalition is really not creating a victory for itself. All that this does, if it is indeed true, is to benefit the devil sitting the whitehouse in the upcoming election. Capturing Hussein was NOT the reason they invaded Iraq. First they said all kinds of lies and presented all sorts of fabrications about WMDs, then it was the 'liberation' of the Iraqis, and now it is the alleged capture. Who knows how all this will play out? The only thing certain is that devil in the whitehouse has a better chance to continue terrorizing the world from Washington for another four years. Bush came to Iraq to have a photo-op with a fake turkey while soldiers were denied that same meal so why should we be surprised if the US has produced a fake Saddam for domestic consumption ?

Only time will confirm or deny the claim being made by the Coalition and their Zionist appointed stooges in Iraq, but I still have my doubts that this report is true. Let those who are celebrating think about the points that I have made. The US is a proven liar so we have to be careful not to fall into their self serving lies.

Fi AmmanALLAH from the servant of ALLAH Shayhka Maulani Aeisha Muhammad

Its not worth it Aesha, A bathist has fallen with his Arab Nationalism because falsehood is predestined to fall, we believe in that promise from Allah subhana wa taala and so believe that all the tyrrants will fall eventually that includes the strongest empire of the current times, bi IdnIllah. Your wishfull thinking will not change the course of history - Moderator


2,425 posted on 12/15/2003 2:45:33 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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Links that accept donations from here, altnews.com, that I've found to date:

http://www.HelpPalestine.Org

http://www.moveon.org

http://www.gush-shalom.org

http://www.onevoiceforpeace.org

Ok, I had to get off that site, http://www.us.altnews.com.au/nuke , for now. That site is built with:

>>>>
"This cool version has lot of security holes and various fixes, includes a new groups system, points system based on user's activity on the site, expiration date for blocks, configuration of the security graphic check for login screens, updated rc4 crypt class on WebMail module and a lot more. Hope that all you enjoy this release. "
>>>>

In other words, the longer you are there, you will get networked and then blocked unless you are an 'approved' subscriber.

I will only be able to surf out that site in small session amounts, with different browsers and what ever else I can do to fake them out before I'm totally banned.
2,426 posted on 12/15/2003 3:01:59 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
ALLAH knows best and surely time will tell, but I would not be surprised to hear an audio tape coming from Saddam Hussein down the road.

Well, he could be right about that one! LOL! Seriously the writer of the long post has good grammer and very good use of English. Not the usual disjointed stuff from those not educated in the West.

Why am I not surprised that MoveOn is listed on an AQ website?? Should this be reported to the FBI?

Prairie

2,427 posted on 12/15/2003 3:10:24 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
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To: prairiebreeze
>>>>Why am I not surprised that MoveOn is listed on an AQ website?? Should this be reported to the FBI?

I would think so. I have only noticed DEAF ears from them though.
2,428 posted on 12/15/2003 3:14:36 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: prairiebreeze
Well golly gee. No sooner do we see that posted about a new tape coming from Saddam, now Daleel has a post at the group saying, "The US has the wrong Guy"

I'm shocked!

/sarcasm
2,429 posted on 12/15/2003 3:24:33 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
Daleel's been drinking the Kool-Aid over at DU.

Prairie
2,430 posted on 12/15/2003 3:38:07 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
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To: Calpernia
re post no. 2429 and "daleel" here's an interesting article...

http://www.bushcountry.org/news/columnists/jreynalds/c_121503_jreynalds_virtual_terror.htm

Virtual Terror
By Jeremy Reynalds (bio)


Other Articles by Jeremy Reynalds
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For some time, I've been telling anyone who will listen that there are two wars on terror: The overt one we all hear about in the media and the covert battle that is only occasionally brought to our attention.

There was a description of that covert war recently by Samuel Schubert in the Washington Times (www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20031210-014820-7175r.htm) Schubert is an adjunct fellow at the American Foreign Policy Council in Washington.

Schubert wrote, "Over the last two years, the United States has been fighting a losing battle against al-Qaida on the World Wide Web. Once identified, al-Qaida affiliated web sites are quickly hacked or shut down, only to reappear at another web address or on another server. This regeneration allows terrorist documents to be published, and vital messages to be delivered. And as al-Qaida's computer-savvy supporters become more adept, the time between disruption and reappearance is shrinking."

How true that is! After corresponding recently with a self-professed terrorist/al- Qaeda/Taliban supporter in the United Arab Emirates, and observing the material this individual was putting on his Yahoo site, I contacted Yahoo and reported an abuse of service. While Yahoo had this person's group and e- mail suspended quite quickly, he was back on line within 24 hours. All he did was make a slight adjustment to his on line information; adding the number one after the final letter of his last name. Yahoo is STILL sending out this person's radical propaganda.

Here is a sample of what Daleel Almojahid, also known as Salah Aldeen, is writing. After allegedly returning from Afghanistan he wrote, "I look at what's happening and bring my hands up to god and thank him for all the blessing the mojahideen are getting from him. The whole world is fighting a very small army of god the whole world!! but the small army of god is wining ! This is the greatness of god. He has the hand to make things flip upside down. Even if everything seems impossible He just says it's done and it's done!"

The propaganda continued. "The amazing thing about the American military is that a huge amount of their troops are people with no parents. They have no family really back in the US and they are the ones put in the first line of battles, so that when they get killed no one would even care to know what happened to them! Nice tactic! In other words their guinea pigs for the rest of the troops."

In the same missive, Almojahid wrote (sic) "The mojahideen in Afghanistan have given us this month an amazing report of their fighting with pics and pics of downed planes and choppers from the American military; something that the media won't ever put on TV! And the number of death with in the Americans is rising to limits that if the American people will know about will go crazy!"

Almojahid claimed he received news directly from a doctor in a German military hospital who allegedly said there are more than 10,000 hurt and suffering troops there and the environment there is "crazy!"

This doctor also reportedly said, "Most of the troops that came to the hospitals from Baghdad and Afghanistan were in the last few months! alaah akbaar."

The same doctor also allegedly told Almojahid, "The numbers are kept secret as much as possible, but he adds that even the troops are trying to reach any media outlet to tell them that bush was a *** ... and that Iraq is a death camp! Most of them have had burns and parts of their bodies cut. The doctor tells us that he is amazed that till now no media is digging into this, but ... as time passes and the numbers start increasing it will be sure that things will start to get out of control."

After having read some of Almojahid's comments I can picture some of you saying, "Well, who would believe that? It's obvious he's making it up." Maybe you are right. There is a good chance he is making up much of what he relates. With that in mind, I have asked Almojahid to provide me phone numbers and e -mails of people who can independently verify what he is saying. I am awaiting his response.

But that is not the point. Even if you and I do not believe a word of what Almojahid says, scores of testosterone filled radical young Islamic men worldwide will. They will not be reading the news sources that you and I do. They dismiss them as American imperialistic propaganda, and as they sit in cyber cafes in developing countries they will instead choose to believe the writings of people like Almojahid and similar thinking individuals whose writings they avidly devour for hours each day.

Almojahid is a very small representation of a problem that is escalating at an alarming rate. We need to do something about it now while we have the time – before it is too late. If nothing else, the very least you can do is to contact Yahoo (http://abuse.yahoo.com)
and let them know what sort of material they are hosting.

Failure to act could help Almojahid's wish become a nightmarish reality. He wrote, "We know that the light of Islam is going to spread into the world with the light of our swords hand in hand."

THAT must not happen!

Jeremy Reynalds is a freelance writer and the founder and director of Joy Junction, New Mexico's largest emergency homeless shelter. He has a master's degree in communication from the University of New Mexico and is pursuing his PhD in intercultural education at Biola University in Los Angeles. He is married with five children and lives in Albuquerque, New Mexico. His work can be viewed here and weekly at www.americasvoices.org. He may be contacted by e-mail at reynalds@joyjunction.org
2,431 posted on 12/15/2003 4:13:15 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Another more important problem that will not be controlled is ecards and web conferencing. Cell heads talk directly to Mid East Imaan through cuseeme.com

Then other members are sent either coded (steg) or noncoded messages through ecards.
2,432 posted on 12/15/2003 5:23:52 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia; JohnathanRGalt; Sabertooth; Dog
re post no. 2432

It's interesting that you mention e-cards, Calpernia. As I travel around the world via the internet; I noticed that even the most hard--core of jihad sites were now carrying e-cards or links/graphic to an e-card site. Not all the sites, of course; but enough of the sites were and that caught my attention. These guys/gals aren't known for their sentimentality and yet there were the e-cards. Figured it was exactly what it is --- another communication's tool.

On the lighter side, I started laughing one night and my husband asked me what was so funny. Well, I ran across an e-card section and there was a section for "your wife" and another one for "your best wife." Hard to believe this stuff sometimes....I'll leave it at that.

Isn't cuseeme.com old technology?
I didn't know people are still using that.

2,433 posted on 12/15/2003 5:44:39 PM PST by Cindy
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1040834/posts

"Report Tells Of Al-Arian Talks (incl info on Mazen Al-Najjar)"
Tampa Tribune ^ | December 12th, 2003 | Elaine Silvestrini


Posted on 12/15/2003 11:47:45 AM PST by Sabertooth


ARTICLE SNIPPET: "TAMPA - Sami Al-Arian used his computer savvy to help Palestinian Islamic Jihad planners secretly communicate with each other, according to a sworn statement from an FBI agent.

The allegation against Al-Arian, a former computer science professor at the University of South Florida, was contained in documents unsealed Thursday by a federal judge at the request of Al-Arian's defense team.

Among the unsealed documents was an affidavit by FBI Special Agent Kerry L.Myers requesting searches of the homes of Al-Arian and his co-defendants. The searches were conducted on Feb. 21, when they were arrested on charges they provided material support to the Islamic Jihad. The organization has claimed responsibility for numerous suicide bombings in Israel.

The affidavit described the sought- after evidence, which included computer equipment and software. Noting that Al-Arian has a doctoral degree in computer engineering, Myers wrote that Al-Arian had a 1994 conversation with his brother discussing the creation of an ``impenetrable computer system.''

It is alleged that the brothers later discussed a computer network with stations in the United States, Europe and Turkey. They also reportedly talked about encrypted information.

The affidavit also describes a 2002 telephone conversation between Al-Arian and a co-conspirator about relaying a message to an Islamic Jihad official. The man described as a co-conspirator, Taysir Al- Khatib, allegedly told Al-Arian not to discuss the matter on the telephone, but to wait until they could communicate online."
2,434 posted on 12/15/2003 5:56:33 PM PST by Cindy
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To: swarthyguy; appalachian_dweller; freeperfromnj; bonesmccoy; Reactionary; Oorang; FairOpinion; ...
Thanks 'washboard_blues' for adding all of the Saddam capture links to Dada's Yahoo group. He has probably blown a couple gaskets by now.

Latest post by Daleel at the Daleel_Al-Mojahid_ Yahoo group. Hi Daleel!!!

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From: daleel_almojahid1 <daleel_almojahid1@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 2:10pm
Subject: They Got The Wrong Guy

 
They Got The Wrong Guy
Commentary By John Kaminski
skylax@c...
12-15-3

War is peace, Orwell said. It has never been clearer than now.

The theatrical apprehension of fallen Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein
from his pathetic hole in the dirt is a prima facie example of how the
American vision of life and the world has become totally twisted. It
was the culmination of an unjust war against a defenseless people,
this ritual roughing up of a tired old man who was never more than a
puppet following the orders of the master manipulators who always
planned to do him in when it became convenient.

Saddam was never a danger to America, despite all the pre-war rhetoric
that has all been proven false.

George W. Bush - and Bill Clinton and the elder Bush before him -
killed many times more Iraqis than Saddam ever did. The20 , 000or so
Iraqi innocents who perished in the recent bombing of the Cradle of
Civilization were at least ten times more than the number of political
malcontents who ran afoul of the murderous machismo of Saddam&apos;s
inflexible rule, and the utter destruction of this functioning
nation-state was certainly something Hussein never contemplated.

What the United States has done to Iraq is something far worse than
Saddam Hussein ever would or could have done. Saddam was never a
danger to his neighbors; that was all Zionist media spin. The only
country in that region that was worried about him was Israel, because
he represented an inflexible stumbling block to the expansionist aims
of the demonic Jewish state.

Americans refuse to confront the ugly facts about this. They refuse to
acknowledge that America has become the real evil empire.

The reasons for invading Iraq have been proved beyond any doubt to
have been lies. Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, nor did it
have any connection to9 /11, the two reasons America used to unleash
its murderous military might. These have been debunked beyond all
question, and still Americans send their sons and daughters to
slaughter and be sacrificed for the ugly perpetuation of these lies.

How Americans could continue to support these satanic fictions is
something for the historians to contemplate. When you use obvious lies
to go to war, then you are the criminals, you are the evil ones. But
Americans simply will not or cannot admit this.

Bush&apos;s decision to go to war ****d on lies have already cost some700
American lives, with more than5 , 000other casualties, and thousands
more stricken with a variety of diseases related to vaccines,
radioactive weaponry, and other unspecified hazards. Plus there&apos;s the
nearly $ 200billion expended from the Treasury that has not gone to
either pay our military for such arduous duty or rebuild the country
we have just destroyed.

This money is literally a highway robbery of the American people
directed by favored American corporations who have reaped billions
virtually without lifting a finger. American corporations who have
contributed mightily to George Bush and his fascist associates are
overseeing the greatest robbery in history (eclipsing the previous
record set by Bush the Elder in his plundering of American banks in
the late1980 s).

But the American criminal behavior, you must re******, goes much
deeper. For 12 years, America and Britain have bombed Iraq constantly,
destroyed its civilian infrastructure, and caused the deaths of a half
million children who were deprived adequate medical care and
nutrition, all this after more than100 , 000were killed in the first
Gulf War, all this after a century of exploitation and mass murder by
" who else? " America and Britain.

Americans refuse to see that the war against the Muslim world has been
going on for more than a thousand years, and nothing has basically
changed. We install leaders who do our bidding, and then when we find
a more lucrative way to fleecing that part of the world., we do away
with them, just like the Shah of Iran.

Either Americans remain oblivious to the pain we inflict on this part
of the world, or worse, we know what we are doing, which makes us
sadistic killers in order to maintain our posh (though rapidly
deteriorating) lifestyles. This is the real American way " mass murder
for money.

War is peace. America is creating a hell on earth. This mission has
been accomplished in Iraq and Afghanistan and many other places. And
now the criminals who engineer these inhuman scams seem to want to
make America itself into the same kind of place, what with arrest
without trial, poisoned medicines and medical care you can&apos;t trust,
the imprisonment of citizens who challenge the banks&apos; warped fictions,
and even the end of an authentic voting system.

Even in the obvious onslaught of all these atrocities, most Americans
" perhaps brain-damaged by long-term exposure to flouride,
radioactivity, food additives and other debilitators " prefer to
believe the obvious lies spewed out by TV PR types (there are no
legitimate journalists remaining in mainstream media, only paid
shills) that America is still the world&apos;s last bastion of freedom.

Well, that&apos;s a lie, just like war is peace. In reality, America is the
new Nazi state, goose-stepping around the world.

Americans are now like what they call "trusties" in the prison of the
world. They are like favored lackeys on the plantation of the planet.
But soon, as capitalism continues to self-destruct around the world,
they too will be tossed into the slave quarters, treated like Iraqis,
and consigned to caves like Saddam found, hiding from the mindless
might that has been unleased in order to further the fortunes of the
elite, and pound and poison cannon fodder like us into nonexistence.

Saddam is not the real criminal here. He didn&apos;t destroy his own
country. He only offed some political opponents, something that
happens very often right here in America.

The real mass murderer is Bush. The corporate TV stations continue to
treat Bush as, if not a hero, at least someone who is operating the
righteous machinery of democracy.

Democracy is as much of a lie as war is peace. Democracy is the new
buzzword for tyranny. There is a robbery going on here which may be
too late to stop. The siphoning of money, resources and even water
from the people who rightfully own them to the military-backed
corporations who wrongfully control them signals a new dark era in
human history, a new totalitarianism frequently predicted in the
literature of visionaries like Orwell and Huxley, but never actually
witnessed, at least on American soil.

Now with all these free-speaking people put in prison for merely
trying to accurately describe what is happening - Leonard Peltier,
Ernst Zundel, Charles Sell, Rick Stanley, the list has always been
endless - we are witnessing the dawn of a new Dark Ages in which you
must believe what you hear on television of you will ultimately lose
everything you have.

Stay tuned for "red alert," during which you won&apos;t be able to leave
your houses so they can come around and take you away one by one.

The American dream is now a nightmare from which there is no escape.

John Kaminski is the author of "America&apos;s Autopsy Report," a
collection of his Internet essays. For more in****ation click
http://www.johnkaminski.com

2,435 posted on 12/16/2003 7:45:27 AM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: LayoutGuru2; Matthew Paul
John Kaminski is the author of "America's Autopsy Report," a collection of his Internet essays. For more in****ation click http://www.johnkaminski.com

I am ashamed this man has a Polish name!

2,436 posted on 12/16/2003 9:13:07 AM PST by JustPiper (Saddam gives new meaning to "Ace in the Hole")
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To: JustPiper
Sheesh, I simply HAVE to reply to Kaminski’s statement was what "Orwell said."

George Orwell did NOT say “War is peace.” That statement is one of the three mottos of the RUTHLESS TOTALITARIAN GOVERNMENT that Orwell is ATTACKING , satirizing, in the novel “1984”: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," "Ignorance is strength." These three statements are examples of what Orwell calls “newspeak” and “doublethink”--verbal and mental tactics that are pure manipulative lies on the part of those who use them.

From the novel itself:

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed--if all records told the same tale--then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past,' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.' And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. 'Reality control', they called it: in Newspeak, 'doublethink'. . . .

His mind slid away into the labyrinthine world of doublethink. To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink.”

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This is exactly what John Kaminski’s use of Orwell’s writing here is: newspeak, doublethink--lying, manipulation.
2,437 posted on 12/16/2003 10:10:09 AM PST by exlibris
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To: Calpernia; FairOpinion; Pro-Bush; BagCamAddict; ganeshpuri89; pokerbuddy0; cgk; Sabertooth; ...
It's called DNA
2,438 posted on 12/16/2003 10:20:50 AM PST by JustPiper (Saddam gives new meaning to "Ace in the Hole")
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To: Cindy
>>>Isn't cuseeme.com old technology?

Maybe. I don't know the background technology for it. I personally don't use it.

I do KNOW that it is used.
2,439 posted on 12/16/2003 10:26:46 AM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: exlibris
This is exactly what John Kaminski’s use of Orwell’s writing here is: newspeak, doublethink--lying, manipulation.

Bump!

2,440 posted on 12/16/2003 11:49:39 AM PST by JustPiper (Saddam gives new meaning to "Ace in the Hole")
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