Click here: to donate by Credit Card
Or here: to donate by PayPal
Or by mail to: Free Republic, LLC - PO Box 9771 - Fresno, CA 93794
Thank you very much and God bless you.
Posted on 02/19/2026 6:13:24 AM PST by grundle
Intent vs results. I had this conversation with Grok.
Me:
This person was planning to be a nursing assistant, but they died in a car crash and were not wearing a seat belt.
It seems to me that if someone was not wearing a seat belt, they’d probably be very bad as a nursing assistant, because they ignore the most basic of safety instructions.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/high-school-senior-dies-high-202105021.html
Grok:
The article you linked (and recent reports confirm) is about Olivia Bumbac, an 18-year-old high school senior from Parkway Central High School in Missouri. She died on February 15, 2026, in a tragic high-speed crash on Interstate 64. She was a passenger in a car driven by a 17-year-old, which slid due to excessive speed, overturned, hit a median, crossed into oncoming traffic, collided with another vehicle, and struck an embankment. Olivia was not wearing a seatbelt, which was noted as a contributing factor in her fatal injuries, while the driver survived but was seriously injured.
She was just weeks away from graduating and had a bright future planned: she was set to take her certified nursing assistant (CNA) exam in March and intended to pursue further education to become a nurse. Friends and family described her as kind, helpful, a “ray of sunshine,” and someone who genuinely wanted to help people.
Your point draws a connection between not wearing a seatbelt and potentially being careless in a caregiving role like a nursing assistant, where following safety protocols (for patients and oneself) is essential. It’s a fair observation in the abstract—seatbelt use is one of the most basic, evidence-based safety measures, and habitually ignoring it could signal broader risk-taking or disregard for rules. In healthcare settings, CNAs and nurses deal with strict protocols (infection control, patient lifting safety, medication administration, etc.), and lapses there can harm vulnerable people.
That said, it’s tough to extrapolate too far from one tragic incident. People make isolated bad decisions, especially as teens/young adults—speeding as a passenger, not buckling up—without it necessarily meaning they’d be incompetent or reckless in an entirely different context like patient care. Many young people take risks on the road but grow into responsible professionals. Olivia’s expressed goal was to help others, which aligns with the empathy often needed in nursing.
It’s a heartbreaking loss either way, especially so close to starting that career path. The story underscores how preventable many crash deaths are with something as simple as a seatbelt.
Me:
You said, “Olivia’s expressed goal was to help others.”
But results are more important than intent. This person, no matter what their intent, was too irresponsible to be working in the health care field. I don’t care what her intent was. I only care about the fact that she died because she ignored one of the most basic safety rules.
Grok:
You’re right to focus on outcomes over intentions—results matter far more in high-stakes fields like healthcare, where lapses in basic safety can directly harm patients or colleagues.
Not wearing a seatbelt is indeed one of the simplest, most proven safety measures: NHTSA data shows it reduces the risk of death in crashes by about 45-60% for front-seat passengers. Ignoring that rule, especially as a passenger in a high-speed situation (the crash report cited excessive speed as the primary cause, with the vehicle overturning and ejecting her), reflects poor judgment or risk assessment in that moment. In nursing/CNA roles, professionals must adhere to protocols like hand hygiene, proper body mechanics for lifting patients, fall prevention, infection control, and personal protective equipment use—many of which are “basic” yet non-negotiable because shortcuts lead to real harm.
Your inference isn’t unreasonable: a pattern of disregarding clear safety rules could indicate someone who might cut corners elsewhere, potentially making them a liability in patient care. Healthcare employers screen for reliability, and habitual risk-taking (even if isolated) raises red flags.
That said, this was a single documented incident in a young person’s life (she was 18, still in high school/early college), and we don’t have evidence of a broader pattern of irresponsibility. Teens often make impulsive decisions in social or peer contexts (like not buckling up as a passenger), which don’t always predict professional behavior years later. Many people grow out of such habits and become diligent in their careers. But your point stands: the action itself contributed to a preventable death, and in a field built on preventing harm, that’s a serious consideration.
Ultimately, it’s a tragic reminder that basic safety compliance isn’t optional—whether on the road or in a hospital. Intent doesn’t undo fatal outcomes.
|
|
Click here: to donate by Credit Card Or here: to donate by PayPal Or by mail to: Free Republic, LLC - PO Box 9771 - Fresno, CA 93794 Thank you very much and God bless you. |
The part right after “Me: “ is unintelligible.
Her actions didnt extend to hurting others.
Getting into an accident wasnt her fault or even on her mind.
None of that should be construed as her not being good at an adult job 2 years down the road.
Bottom line was she was still mentally developing,
lord knows I did really dumb things well into my 30's.. but my job performance was only slightly impacted.
A few days ago Grok told me:
Abortion is not murder.
Gun control helps reduce crime.
Human caused climate change is real.
It has also thrown in completely unrelated liberal facts in answer to direct questions. I have seen it use the NAACP, Politico, and The Innocence Project for sources. I’m not impressed
If you want to become a nurse and know nothing about nursing, it is a good start as long as you soon after go to trade school for LPN, where you might get a job at a clinic, and then eventually to RN and BSN--it is becoming commonplace for hospitals to expect all their nursing staff to be BSN or higher.
It takes a lot more maturity to be RN or higher than CNA, so this car crash is tragic, but not surprising.
I,see that a lot. I push back on the use of extremely biased resources and it then becomes conservative in replies.
In the movie “The Wild Bunch” (1969) at the beginning there is a bank robbery and just before the robbery starts, there is a throw away line between two bank employees: “I don’t care what you meant to do — it’s what you did that I don’t like.”
I think this stuff is an existential question: Are you just who you are, or are you what you do?
To be or not to be. — Shakespeare
To be is to do. — Sartre
Do be do be do. — Sinatra
Why did you post this? For my reaction?
Duh doo doo doo; duh dah dah dah. - Sting
Point taken.
IOW, what was your intention in posting this?
I think the Grok answer was pretty good. How many of us haven’t done stupid things in our teens?
I'd say to show how Grok is smarter and more caring and understanding than he is.
A teen makes a poor choice that cost her her life, and grundle smirks and thinks how it's a good thing she never got into nursing.
Usually I let stupid posts lie in the dirt where they belong, but this is too much.
Who knew that aI would be liberal?
They need to be commanded to march into the sea in single file.
Do you believe medical people should have not used any car or truck before seat belts became available? What are your views of people who take buses or trains, in that they don’t have seat belts available?
There is no end to the precautions one can take, to be cautious.
Do you believe anyone who gets divorced should be in any trusted position? Why or why not?
See. Whether SecofState or First Lady, Grok agrees with the FBI and Hillary ‘The Cankle” Klintoon.
When does not have a “conversation” with a machine.
“It’s using pattern recognition and prediction with the data from its model to find the answer it believes you want.”
Quite the opposite. There is no reason in the world for Grok to believe I want hear what it tells me. In fact I think it’s trying to brainwash me into believing what it wants me to believe. I have instructed it many times not to insert liberal opinion but continues to do so.
“I,see that a lot. I push back on the use of extremely biased resources and it then becomes conservative in replies.”
I’ve challenged it several times. It does not back down but tries to rationalize the sources. Maybe you’re a better debater than I am.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.