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Can Obama And Others Actually Be Charged With Seditious Conspiracy? Here's Why I Ask.
US Code. House.gov ^ | July 20, 2025 | Macho MAGA Man

Posted on 07/20/2025 11:00:25 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man

Under the statute 18 USC Ch. 115: TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES there are 10 sections, each a separate category of crimes, that are all considered permutations of treason. 2381. Treason. 2382. Misprision of treason. 2383. Rebellion or insurrection.

2384. SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY.

2385. Advocating overthrow of Government. 2386. Registration of certain organizations. 2387. Activities affecting armed forces generally. 2388. Activities affecting armed forces during war. 2389. Recruiting for service against United States. 2390. Enlistment to serve against United States.

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To: Macho MAGA Man

It says “By Force” though. Obama, Clapper, Comey, Brennan, and Susan Rice specifically didn’t do anything “By Force” nor orchestrate others to commit Seditious Conspiracy by force.

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depends on your definition of “force”


21 posted on 07/20/2025 11:24:40 AM PDT by thinden (Buckle Up!)
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To: Lockbox

Good find, Sir. Thank you.


22 posted on 07/20/2025 11:27:56 AM PDT by rockwell torrey
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To: thinden

(depends on your definition of “force”)

No, it’ll be Pam Bondi’s definition of “force”.


23 posted on 07/20/2025 11:28:26 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. Onw!as a cylindrical object)
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To: Big Red Badger

Why should they be afraid of Blondi and The Pussmasters of the GOP?


24 posted on 07/20/2025 11:30:28 AM PDT by Hyman Roth
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To: Macho MAGA Man

could it be:
<> grand jury’s definition of force?
<> military tribunal’s definition of force?


25 posted on 07/20/2025 11:31:14 AM PDT by thinden (Buckle Up!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
My thoughts on the charges.
26 posted on 07/20/2025 11:32:28 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

So just charge them with regular conspiracy. It’s not like any of them are going to be given the death penalty anyhow.

Or RICO - racketeering includes bribery, fraud, obstruction of justice, money laundering - all things that the Obama Crime Family engaged in.

Just charge them!


27 posted on 07/20/2025 11:34:30 AM PDT by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Of course the charges are important. But trying the case in a decent jurisdiction, outside DC is crucial for conviction.


28 posted on 07/20/2025 11:38:44 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: Hyman Roth

Blondi is probably sweating inside her breaches as we speak.


29 posted on 07/20/2025 11:39:44 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (TERM LIMITS IS THE ONLY WAY TO STOP CORRUPT CAREER POL ITIiCIANS. )
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To: PghBaldy
In keeping with your tagline:

You'll no doubt have noted that the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act had not yet been been made law, which prolly skeerd preezy, just not enough.

30 posted on 07/20/2025 11:42:29 AM PDT by rx
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Can intimidation, blackmail, or extortion be construed as force? The law is written as force...not martial or physical force.


31 posted on 07/20/2025 11:43:08 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Interesting question.

It seems after reading all the possible sections, Seditious conspiracy seems to describe the intent of what these people were doing.

Defining what “By Force” means is the question I agree.
There is nothing in the law that says it must be a “physical” force. By force can imply any force that is used to take over the government.

Here’s Webster’s definition of “By Force”

a(1) : strength or energy exerted or brought to bear : cause of motion or change : active power. the forces of nature.

It’s an idiom to imply all the above.

These people were conspiring to take over the government. Any they put in motion actions in that regard.

I think that law reads perfectily clear.


32 posted on 07/20/2025 11:43:56 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I’ll be happy just to see everyone of them bankrupted by legal fees, since they’ve used lawfare so ‘liberally’ against our side. A prison sentence would be the cherry on the cake.


33 posted on 07/20/2025 11:44:55 AM PDT by Twotone ( What's the difference between a politician & a flying pig? The letter "F.")
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To: iontheball

If it is a conspiracy there is no limitation, and the hearing can take place anywhere not just in DC


34 posted on 07/20/2025 11:44:59 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Macho MAGA Man
“By Force” though. Obama, Clapper, Comey, Brennan, and Susan Rice specifically didn’t do anything “By Force” nor orchestrate others to commit Seditious Conspiracy by force..

Using the power of the FBI to arrest [via armed SWAT teams conducting early morning raids breaking in doors at gunpoint and jailing people on faked charges to protect the conspiracy is certainly "by force."

35 posted on 07/20/2025 11:45:17 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: grumpygresh

What are the rules for requesting a change of venue in Federal Court?


36 posted on 07/20/2025 11:45:56 AM PDT by Reily
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To: nikos1121

It can take place where any act in furtherance of the conspiracy occurred. Take a telephone call on Amchitka Island and venue would rest there.


37 posted on 07/20/2025 11:46:52 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: MtnClimber

I think we need to agree that the term “by force” is an idiom that refers to any force physical or other wise.


38 posted on 07/20/2025 11:47:36 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: unlearner

I agree.


39 posted on 07/20/2025 11:49:13 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121
I think we need to agree that the term “by force” is an idiom that refers to any force physical or other wise.

I agree. The lawfare used the force of law to imprison or to shoot for contrived reasons. Use of force against a criminal is justified. Use of the force of law enforcement that is really a "SWATTING incident" is not justified.

40 posted on 07/20/2025 11:51:54 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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