Posted on 08/26/2024 9:50:28 AM PDT by grundle
You know things are serious when big tech hops aboard.
It’s easy to see why battery tech advancements are all the buzz in the EV scene these days. I mean, anyone who’s anyone in the automotive and motorcycle industries is working hard in pushing the bounds of electrification.
But up to now, the biggest hurdle when it comes to EVs is reducing charging time and increasing range. This is where solid-state (SS) batteries enter the picture. We’ve been talking about these things here on RideApart for quite some time now. And the potential they have in the future of mobility is simply undeniable.
Now, some of the biggest players in the tech industry are hopping aboard the SS battery bandwagon in full force. For example, at the SNE Battery Day 2024 Expo in Seoul, South Korea, none other than Samsung showcased its latest battery technology: an EV-specific solid-state oxide battery with some impressive claims.
How does a 20-year lifespan and a nine-minute charging time sound?
Plus, Samsung’s solid-state battery comes with all the perks associated with these types of batteries including lighter weight and improved safety thanks to a more stable thermal balance. But perhaps the best part is that Samsung’s solid-state battery tech has around 500 watt-hours per kilogram. That’s nearly double the energy density of the batteries found in most EVs today. And so in the real world, we could be looking at about 600 miles of range on a single charge.
Indeed, at present, Samsung’s already working with big automakers to incorporate its solid-state battery tech into tomorrow’s EVs. Toyota and Samsung have agreed to begin mass production of SS batteries in 2027, with Toyota noting that its premium Lexus vehicles will be among the first to benefit from this new tech.
Now, if you’re thinking that all this sounds too good to be true, well, that’s because it kinda is. There definitely is a catch, and that catch is the fact that these ultra-fast charging batteries require some pretty solid infrastructure for you to get the claimed nine-minute charge time. If we look at China, whose EV makers offer similar charging speeds, 480kW and sometimes even 600kW chargers are an absolute must. But even in China, charging stations of this capacity are far and few in between.
So the real challenge here isn’t so much whether or not it’s possible—we know that it certainly is—but rather, how quickly ultra-fast-charging infrastructure can be made available to the masses.
Then, of course, there’s the issue of cost. At present, it costs way more to manufacture solid-state EV batteries than Lithium-ion and LFP batteries found in current EVs—around three or four times, to be specific. Perhaps that’s why Toyota plans on introducing solid-state batteries on its Lexus vehicles first, where profit margins are much higher.
At the end of the day, the advancement of solid-state batteries is a good thing for everyone. Sure, at the moment, they’re super expensive and require specialized tech to make the most out of. But less than 20 years ago, SSDs were super expensive and HDDs were the norm. But now, even boomers have SSDs in their laptops and home computers.
Who’s to say that in the next 20 years, or maybe even less, SS batteries will be the standard for EVs?
It’s still experimental and a long way off(something to do with crystals growing inside the battery and breaking through the covering )and I think they said they’ll put them in High End EVs ,LOL
Dirty water or sterile water?
A kilowatt is still a kilowatt. Charge up a bunch of these all at once and crash the grid.
Think of how many gas pumps there are at Buc-ee’s and change them to charging stations. How thick a power line will you need to run to the facility to handle all the stations?
I’d suspect there’s a lot more engineering involved before it is plausible for mass use under ordinary conditions.I see no reason not to be hopeful, but I’m not holding my breath waiting to buy one.
I will never buy anything that is made by Samsung or contains anything made by Samsung!
SAMSUCK!!!
For God sake.. find out for yourself. Watch the VIDEO and/or CONTACT Toyota.. get off your butt kid!
Reminds me of that song from The Wiz
"Diesel down, diesel down the road..."
My Samsungs have been able to travel 600+ miles on a single charge for many years, whether traveling by car or plane.
I remember reading about mini atomic reactors that could be built for local use. If a Buc-ees had one of them at each store with, say, 40 charging ports, and the charging could be done in a few minutes with 600 or more miles per charge, that might make sense from a CO2 perspective. Until then, I'll keep my gas(oline)
TRUE!.. but, keep in mind, LIBERALS cannot be encumbered with PRACTICALITY... they're too busy spitting out IMPRACTICAL ideas 24/7!
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My father's name was Elgie, so I have always had a pre-emptive dereliction to Samsungs
But will the battery last at least 9 months, and what is the cost of replacement. My ICE car is good for 12-15 years or 150,000-200,000 miles without any expensive replacement.
To go 600 miles you need 200kwh (kilo watt hours). if you have 200 amp service in your house at 100 volts (rounding) you have 20 kilowatts maximum through the wire to your house (amps times volts equals watts). So you get 20 kilowatt hours in an hour and you need 10 times this, so it still takes 10 hours to get that much juice into the battery. If you have your own combined cycle gas turbine power plant with enough juice to power 100 homes, all at your personal disposal, it works. basically you would need 20,000 amp service at your house, 100 times what a normal house has. Then you are charged up in 6 minutes.
Samsung to Mass-Produce Solid-State Batteries for 'Super Premium' EVs by 2027
Multiple automakers have been testing product samples, bringing them closer to hitting the market. But like most new technologies, they won't be cheap.
July 29, 2024
Samsung's latest solid-state battery technology will power up premium EVs first, giving them up to 621 miles of range.
The new batteries—which promise to improve vehicle range, decrease charging times, and eliminate risk of battery fires—could go into mass production as soon as 2027. Multiple automakers have been reportedly testing samples. Samsung did not list any by name but it's worked with Hyundai, Stellantis, and General Motors, among others.
"We supplied samples to customers from the end of last year to the beginning of this year and are receiving positive feedback," Samsung SDI VP Koh Joo-young said at SNE Battery Day 2024 in Seoul, according to Korean outlet The Elec and translated by Google.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, the batteries won't be cheap. They will initially go in "super premium EVs" and will offer 900 to 1,000 kilometers (559-621 miles) of range and improved safety.
"All-solid-state batteries can increase safety by changing liquid to solid, and when made into the same pack (as existing products), the weight is reduced and the space taken up is smaller, which can lead to a cost reduction in the vehicle itself, so automakers are interested in them," Joo-young said.
The company is also working on another type of battery chemistry for its high-end customers, called high-nickel NCA, which has a high nickel content and therefore increased energy capacity, according to Sumitomo Metal Mining.
For the entry-level segment, Samsung will offer a lower-cost "semi-solid-state" battery, similar to Chinese EV maker Nio. It is also working on LFP and mid-nickel batteries, which contain less nickel, making them cheaper.
Samsung's presentation also reiterated previously announced plans to create batteries that can charge in nine minutes and last 20 years by 2029.
Competing battery maker LG Energy also presented at the conference. LG is one of Tesla's battery suppliers and one of the largest in the world. It plans to mass produce solid-state batteries a little later than Samsung, by 2030, also starting with premium EVs.
Ka-BOOM
And it costs just $55,000!....................
The problem is the batteries go into thermal meltdown, the fire is 2000 degrees very difficult to control. My subdivision is so tightly that temperature would endanger two or three homes. If your EV burns downs my home, well you now have a problem with me.
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