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Trump... Are we being played? Freeper thoughts please.
Self | 7/17/2023 | Vanity

Posted on 07/18/2023 3:00:30 PM PDT by Dagny Muriel

As we all know, we live in a time of a 24 hour news cycle. If big news comes out, it will capture attention at best for 48 hours before it is replaced with the next big story. Many have pointed fingers at the timing of Trump being notified of him being the target of an investigation. Notibly, with the whistle blower testistomony Wednesday, the timing seems targeted to cause distraction. This is at least what we are being told. I find a few red flags with this narrative.

1. The testimony only became a big news headline Monday night. If the goal was to thwart this hearing becoming a headline, then the announcement would have been made publicly rather than left to Trump and would have been made after the transcribed testimony provided the dancing evidence rather than before.

2. Since when does trump wait 2 full days before he spouts off about something like this? If he was notified on Sunday, waiting for 2 days before saying a word seems very out of character for President Trump. He would have that statement ready to go Monday afternoon.

3. Keeping the above in mind, why would he be given the information on Sunday? If they wanted to detract from the hearing, knowing the short attention span of the Amarican people today, they would have given it to him Monday, hoping to dominate the media attention for 24-36 hours and straight past the hearing

4. This brings me back to Trumps break in usual pattern. Why, being admittedly very good with utilizing and manipulating the media and timing his publicity, would trump make a statement the day before such an important hearing? Why the sudden change in his behavior which is so perfectly timed? He is not dumb and outside of his knee jerk outbursts is very calculating.

Fellow freepers, looking at the behavioral patterns of all involved, I can only conclude:

A. Trump wishes to highlight the injustice, though I do not believe he is so niave to think anyone but his base will see anything except either "this gives biden a pass", "they are all corrupt", or that most won't even notice the hearing because the media loves a good trump show.

B. Trump wants to burry this hearing to control what his base takes away. Maybe something that Biden did, however small it may be, he knows might also be turned on him so he wants to turn attention elsewhere?

C. The deep state is deeper than we realize and trump is helping hide the cards until they decide if the people will vote him in the primary or they need to oust Biden to defeat an outsider...

I would love yalls thoughts. No matter what though, it smells like I just got off a shrimp boat!


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: absurdvanity; biden; burry; ibtz; indictment; leavefrn00b; legendsofthezot; nevertrumper; nevertrumpingtrash; nevertrumpingtroll; notibly; oversight; pdjt; shutupn00b; tds; tdsflypaperthread; trollthread; trump; vanity; zot
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To: Dagny Muriel

How about you do what you said: “I will make my best attempt to clarify,” rather than try to insult me.


161 posted on 07/18/2023 9:53:06 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Robert DeLong
Your reply is extensive and seems to have many facts which I will need to do more than one eye 😳🍻. I am happy to look at them closer tomorrow. Upon first glance any references to previous presidents or DJT record as president is irrelevant as it relates to this. The question is not of the I just done to the individual as we all have seen that... The question is why distract from the opportunity to show the injustice from the people who have not yet seen?
162 posted on 07/18/2023 10:01:45 PM PDT by Dagny Muriel (NEVER TRUST what you read, hear, or see. NO one in power is trustworthy. Follow the $ for the truth.)
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To: ifinnegan

I appologise if I replied to the wrong poster. I will review tomorrow. Please clarify how I insulted you and what you would like to keep me to clarify?


163 posted on 07/18/2023 10:06:18 PM PDT by Dagny Muriel (NEVER TRUST what you read, hear, or see. NO one in power is trustworthy. Follow the $ for the truth.)
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To: Captainpaintball

Who says he’s lost power? Not me. I’ve made it clear 24/7 that I believe Trump put continuity of govt into play prior to leaving DC. Many, many other people also believe this.

Watch Donald Trump’s motorcade in and out of Miami for his supposed indictment the other week. 14 cars with ambulance and a 20 motorcycle state police escort. Freeway totally closed. State Department level security bruisers with PPWs and some military. He also had a military escort when he was in GA recently. Former presidents don’t get that kind of treatment. Ever. Does not happen.

Personally I think most of the stuff that is happening is being choreographed. All these cheese ball indictments are too over the top to be real. Not one picture or video inside the courthouse of any of this stuff. Nobody sneaked their cellphone out and then leaked it on Twitter. Seriously? My guess is Trump was in there drinking a coke. Change my mind. 😉


164 posted on 07/18/2023 10:16:26 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Who says he’s lost power? Not me. I’ve made it clear 24/7 that I believe Trump put continuity of govt into play prior to leaving DC. Many, many other people also believe this.

Yes. We would call those people names. Like delusional. Or insane. Or stupid. You are nuts. Stop it. He got screwed. He got played. HE BLEW IT. We are now outnumbered. Glenn Beck used to scream "We surround them!" and we still couldn't get the courage to finish them. Now the boomers are 30% lgbtqiaa2++wxyz and addicted to tiktok and believe conservatives should be arrested if we misgender someone. The illegals are literally replacing us , and will be allowed to vote in the next election.

What benefit is it for him to be out of office but somehow still be in power? And why am I even bothering to change your mind?

165 posted on 07/18/2023 10:38:02 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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To: delchiante

Your whole idea is not well thought out. If Trump wasn’t running, someone else would be and the same thing would be happening.

Americans have normalcy bias. They aren’t going to do what they must until there is nothing left that is normal. Even at that, what are they going to do? Run around all willy nilly waving guns? Maybe confiscating guns will do it. But do what? In a case like this, losing isn’t an option.

If this last 3 1/2 years of Biden hasn’t brought people to full rebellion, I don’t know what will. The younger generations are indoctrinated and won’t be much help. We have probably waited past any point of return because the damage is so severe and it is world wide.

Perhaps people need to see and have it confirmed in their minds one more time that elections do not work anymore. Maybe that will do it, yes?

I kind of doubt it though, so far we blame each other and the candidate and do the same thing every single time.

That is why we are here now.


166 posted on 07/19/2023 4:39:57 AM PDT by dforest
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To: kabar

I hope you are right. I sure do miss Rush.


167 posted on 07/19/2023 5:20:47 AM PDT by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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To: dforest

I hope you are right.


168 posted on 07/19/2023 5:21:24 AM PDT by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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To: Reno89519

Did you actually watch the video of her speaking? Airhead, self obsession warning...asset???


169 posted on 07/19/2023 5:34:43 AM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: Tell It Right

Agree completely. The left has an agenda to paralyze opposition using examples of blitzkrieg. Trump, J6 anyone who steps up to call them out is destroyed with the full force of the corrupt Government & media. Show me the man I’ll invent the crimes, guilt by opposition, innocence impossible.


170 posted on 07/19/2023 5:40:19 AM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: Reno89519

I could live with Desantis. i just hope we all will live..


171 posted on 07/19/2023 5:43:05 AM PDT by Leep (What skill or service did the biden family have that netted them tens of millions of dollars?)
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To: Golden Eagle

Context anyone?
And stop insulting your fellow posters, your quote is new to NOONE.

“Trump met with lawmakers on Wednesday to discuss gun laws and school safety in the aftermath of a Feb. 14 shooting at a high school in Parkland, Fla., that left 17 people dead.

The suspected shooter, Nikolas Cruz, was able to legally purchase the AR-15 reportedly used in the shooting despite numerous calls to law enforcement about his unstable behavior.
Trump was responding to comments from Vice President Pence that families and local law enforcement should have more tools to report potentially dangerous individuals with weapons.


172 posted on 07/19/2023 5:43:05 AM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Melania Trump supports her husband’s re-election campaign, telling Fox News Digital that she looks forward to working alongside former President Trump in “restoring hope for the future and leading America with love and strength” during a second term in the White House.

Mrs. Trump told Fox News Digital that if she has “the privilege” to serve as first lady again in 2024, she would continue to prioritize initiatives focused on the well-being and development of children, to ensure they have the “support and resources they need to reach their full potential.”
“My husband achieved tremendous success in his first administration, and he can lead us toward greatness and prosperity once again,” the former first lady told Fox News Digital.

Trump announced his 2024 re-election campaign in November, and is currently leading the Republican field for the GOP presidential nomination.

“He has my support, and we look forward to restoring hope for the future and leading America with love and strength,” she said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/melania-supports-trump-2024-campaign-would-prioritize-childrens-initiatives-if-first-lady-for-a-second-term


173 posted on 07/19/2023 5:45:24 AM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

You have my sympathy for your loss.


174 posted on 07/19/2023 5:46:19 AM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: Dagny Muriel

English is not your first language? Your comment is gobbledygook


175 posted on 07/19/2023 5:50:06 AM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: sit-rep

I completely agree!


176 posted on 07/19/2023 6:02:23 AM PDT by spincaster
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To: Captainpaintball

“What benefit is it for him to be out of office but somehow still be in power?”

If you really listen to what Trump says he tells I’myou what’s going to happen.

Remember when he said “ I didn’t sign the insurrection act because I wanted people to see how bad it would be if things were run poorly “.

Remember When Trump said “ there’s a storm coming” and when the reporters said “what storm Mr. President?” Trump replied “you’ll find out”

Remember when speaking of the election Trump said “We caught them all”.

As much as I wish Trump would have brought the military in to stop the steal in January 2020 I now realize that the majority of people would have believed it was just a coup by a sore loser. But now almost 3 years on the majority of Americans think the election was stolen and believe the entire government is corrupt and controlled by a bunch of crazy fascists.

IMO and that remains to be seen by the time the end of the year rolls around and the things that I believe are going to come out actually come out and Trump gets indicted and arrested a few hundred more times most people will sigh with relief if there is an intervention.

I have zero doubt that our cyber guys watched the 2020 election steal in real time and have overwhelming proof of the vote changing.

There are 2-3 schools of thought about how this is going to play out. There may likely be a black swan event such as the banking system collapsing, a false flag nuclear standoff or false flag alien invasion.

Or there is talk that the Supreme Court has already privately viewed the 2020 election evidence and based on the more recent Brunsen filings want to declare the election null and void and let Trump begin his four year term now. No 2024 election required. Did you see Roe v Wade coming? I sure didn’t.

Or the least likely scenario that Biden has to step down and Kampala isn’t eligible or steps aside and Kevin McCarthy temporarily becomes President. I think that plan has too many moving parts. The first two plans give the military the excuse to move in to stabilize the country and facilitate the changes.

One thing is for certain. The events currently unfolding are leading to some type of resolution. There is no scenario where this bunch of commie criminal clowns continue to destroy the country and turn the US into a commie gulag. This whole business is going to come to a head before Nov 2024.


177 posted on 07/19/2023 7:05:15 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Dagny Muriel
Most of it is just confirmation that the 2020 election was stolen, and that if you care about the Republic, that we must not allow it to stand.

Basically I am very disappointed than many on this board are now trashing DJT for his attempts to try & save this nation & her people from the destruction & loss of freedom that will negatively impact the entire world

While you obviously saw your post as harmless & innocuous, I took it as snark that was absolutely insulting to people who are trying to wake the people up to the immense dangers this nation is facing.

From reckless spending to useless adventurism into militarism, when the only reason for the conflict in Ukraine/Russia is to enrich some people, while putting others (you & me & our children) into more debt that we didn't incur. That this administration was just as much to blame for the conflict as was Russia, & perhaps even more, for this administration just continued the actions set in motion by the Obama administration. All signs point to it being a color revolution orchestrated by the CIA for the purpose of throwing Russia into destabilization & the ousting of President Putin. To the theft of elections in our nation. They are all tied together.

I'm aghast at that, as well as, the rights of those in opposition to what transpired in the 2020 election & the tyrannical response of those who have imprisoned people who exercised their right to protest against what was a definite coup d'état against our sitting president. Their rights of due process have been denied, while rioters who were not only destructive to private property, but actually killed people, were treated with kid gloves. They are going after Trump for everything then can come up with, while they totally ignore what Biden did & he wasn't even President, so he should have no reason for having in his possession classified documents. Same goes for Hillary.

Let's just say I am very disappointed in some of the people on this board.

Some people here are so snarky when it comes to Donald John Trump, because they see the Trump/DeSantis division as a popularity game. I see it as DeSantis being someone who sold himself as being America first person, when in reality he is nothing more than a Deep State Trojan Horse, which is evidenced by whom he now aligns himself with. If there is anything I hate the most, it's deceptive people.

People on this board need to wake up. We are very close to losing this nation to evil.

If you really are concerned about this Republic, then it should be abundantly obvious to you, that the only person in this race who deserves your support is Donald John Trump. Anyone else is just excusing what is going on in our Republic.

178 posted on 07/19/2023 7:05:22 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: dforest

Trump is the most aggrieved party.
It was his election that was stolen.

Instead of posting the Declaration of Independence,he started running another campaign..

That kept any angry Americans willing to pledge their lives to a Restoration of a Republic to wait.


179 posted on 07/20/2023 7:34:11 AM PDT by delchiante
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