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Trump... Are we being played? Freeper thoughts please.
Self | 7/17/2023 | Vanity

Posted on 07/18/2023 3:00:30 PM PDT by Dagny Muriel

As we all know, we live in a time of a 24 hour news cycle. If big news comes out, it will capture attention at best for 48 hours before it is replaced with the next big story. Many have pointed fingers at the timing of Trump being notified of him being the target of an investigation. Notibly, with the whistle blower testistomony Wednesday, the timing seems targeted to cause distraction. This is at least what we are being told. I find a few red flags with this narrative.

1. The testimony only became a big news headline Monday night. If the goal was to thwart this hearing becoming a headline, then the announcement would have been made publicly rather than left to Trump and would have been made after the transcribed testimony provided the dancing evidence rather than before.

2. Since when does trump wait 2 full days before he spouts off about something like this? If he was notified on Sunday, waiting for 2 days before saying a word seems very out of character for President Trump. He would have that statement ready to go Monday afternoon.

3. Keeping the above in mind, why would he be given the information on Sunday? If they wanted to detract from the hearing, knowing the short attention span of the Amarican people today, they would have given it to him Monday, hoping to dominate the media attention for 24-36 hours and straight past the hearing

4. This brings me back to Trumps break in usual pattern. Why, being admittedly very good with utilizing and manipulating the media and timing his publicity, would trump make a statement the day before such an important hearing? Why the sudden change in his behavior which is so perfectly timed? He is not dumb and outside of his knee jerk outbursts is very calculating.

Fellow freepers, looking at the behavioral patterns of all involved, I can only conclude:

A. Trump wishes to highlight the injustice, though I do not believe he is so niave to think anyone but his base will see anything except either "this gives biden a pass", "they are all corrupt", or that most won't even notice the hearing because the media loves a good trump show.

B. Trump wants to burry this hearing to control what his base takes away. Maybe something that Biden did, however small it may be, he knows might also be turned on him so he wants to turn attention elsewhere?

C. The deep state is deeper than we realize and trump is helping hide the cards until they decide if the people will vote him in the primary or they need to oust Biden to defeat an outsider...

I would love yalls thoughts. No matter what though, it smells like I just got off a shrimp boat!


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
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To: xkaydet65
He’s trying to make bedt of bad situation. Clearly the left feels the more they pile on legally the greater the likelihood he wins the GOP nomination. That’s what they want.

I think it's more than that. I think the left is trying to send a message to everyone: Mess with us and we destroy you. Even if the left's tactics against Trump somewhat backfires and encourages even middle-ground voters to vote for Trump in the general (whether or not it's enough to top the vote fraud is for another discussion), the overall message will hit home. Possible future Trumps will know what awaits them if they challenge our crooked government, just like when people in banana republics challenge their crooked governments.

141 posted on 07/18/2023 5:37:50 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Reverend Wright

142 posted on 07/18/2023 5:39:51 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
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To: Dagny Muriel
So he would rather advance himself than help indict and open the eyes of millions who are being fooled, give validation to the millions of his followers being sh** on, and help bring the corruption to light. He would rather advance his primary chances than lay back and let it not be about him winning but about the truth coming out?

With our crooked DOJ does it really matter now if more truth comes out about the Bidens and others? Of course not. But Trump believes that changes if he's back in charge again (of course he believes his next cabinet and assistants will be better than the deep staters and/or compromised people he picked last time). Unless Trump or someone like him is back in the WH, all the "opening of eyes of millions" mean nothing.

143 posted on 07/18/2023 5:41:01 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ncalburt

You have no link to support your insanity of Trump increasing the number of IRS agents by 87,000.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/559840-house-democrats-propose-increasing-irs-budget-for-fiscal-2022/

This is the House’s 2022 budget proposal.


144 posted on 07/18/2023 5:48:41 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Dagny Muriel

I’ve moved on. Trump’s moment was in 2016. The Deep State got him in 2020. Now I’m on team Ron.


145 posted on 07/18/2023 5:49:45 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: ncalburt; All

Where is your link proving that Trump’s 2021 proposed budget planned to increase the IRS by 87,000 agents? You know how to do a search, right?

Prove it or apologize to all on the thread for misrepresenting Trump’s record.


146 posted on 07/18/2023 5:51:53 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Dagny Muriel
I didn't say you said that at all.

I said:

Apparently you believe that he has orchestrated this whole scenario.

147 posted on 07/18/2023 5:58:20 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Golden Eagle

It triggers hilarity, as Trump has been the most Conservative and patriotic President after Reagan in over 40 years.

What candidate do you believe is #1, “Ultra Conservative”, and #2, not going to be similarly destroyed by the media and #3, not having his election fixed to lose as Trump did in 2020 ?


148 posted on 07/18/2023 6:11:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: dforest

Trump has everybody on his side looking to 2024 election..

That’s a big kick the can down the road strategy that keeps people who believe the Republic doesn’t survive one stolen election, to focus on a future election where it can happen again.

If it happens twice, the hope of fixing the nation through voting will be seen as futile..

And since the aggrieved party, Trump, is not giving up hope in the current banana republic, his supporters are not hopeless and willing to give their life,fortune and sacred honor..

That’s a real possibility in 2024/2025, because Trump won’t be able to stop the masses from saying enough...

Trump’s enemies got to play Lucy once with the football..
Once..

Trump is lining up and ready to make another run at the football.
All we’re doing is watching it..

Because Trump hasn’t been removed from the game or election 2024...

Trump shows hope that the next election won’t be rigged..

His supporters are hoping too..

The Banana Republic has been given one mulligan..

Trump has given the Banana Republic the mulligan. His supporters are simply following his lead..


149 posted on 07/18/2023 6:21:40 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Dagny Muriel

Who else but Trump has stood up to the Democrats and media whose sole purpose is to destroy America? Any other Republican is just another Republican from a long, long line of Republicans who were content to allow the Democrats to run things. This is why we are in the shape we are now. Again, if one is interested in straightening the Country out, Who but Trump? If you are content with the direction the Country is headed, by all means, get rid of him.


150 posted on 07/18/2023 6:22:05 PM PDT by sport
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To: Dagny Muriel

youre asking basically trick questions. I can understand why some are chaulking you up as a whack job.

pick A... B... or C yourself and stick with it. because if someone can tell you the answer this quick to what youre asking, then by the next 2 or 3 threads on different issues/cases, youre gonna be lost again.


151 posted on 07/18/2023 6:32:47 PM PDT by sit-rep
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To: Gene Eric

Do you really think he pays attention to counsel?


152 posted on 07/18/2023 7:03:20 PM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: Dagny Muriel
1. The questioning of a leader is crucial to our republic. Blindly following in loyalty is downfall and what we condemn liberals for

He's the first president who actually tried to accomplish what he campaigned on. The RINOs thwarted him from day he came down the escalator. They did this because they didn't like him. There are several that need to be charged as traitors, because that is exactly what they are. He did nothing wrong while in office, in fact he followed the Constitution, unlike every president after Reagan. He stopped us from getting engaged in wars, he made this nation energy independent. He got tax reductions which stimulated the economy. He removed other legislative red tape. He got the largest Black vote in recent history for the Republican Party. In 2020 election he got the largest Hispanic support ever for a Republican. He got the most votes of any president seeking reelection.

Barak Obama got 69,498,516 in 2008
Barak Obama got 65,915,795 in 2012
Donald Trump got 62,984,828 in 2016
Donald Trump got 74,223,975 in 2020

Well, this Republic you are so concerned about is almost lost, because the Uni-party is tried of our Republic they are moving us towards tyranny as the elites desire to be in control under the guise of a One World Government, or a New World Order if you prefer that verbiage. This is becoming more & more evident with this clown in office. Trump won the 2020 election, and there were more than enough anomalies o confirm that.

Just to name a few:

Anomalies in the 2020 US presidential election have been detected using Benford's law. The most prominent distribution violations are observed with Republican vote counts in blue states, all vote counts in states won by the Democratic candidate, and Democratic vote counts in swing states. Distributions are anomalous in swing states won by the Democratic nominee and not anomalous in swing states won by the Republican nominee.3 The overall vote total itself is an anomaly, with 155 million votes. Reports of ballot boxes being removed, dumped or suddenly surfacing in key voting areas have also surfaced.1 In Georgia, Biden overtook Trump with 89% of the votes counted, and for the next 53 batches of votes counted, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch.0 There are ten statistical anomalies indicating vote fraud and manipulation in the 2020 election.

“Statistically Impossible” That 19 of 20 Bellweather Counties All Voted For Trump…and Biden Wins

Statistical anomalies in the 2020 Presidential Election

We saw ballots being pulled out from under a table in Georgia, after they supposedly closed down counting because of a water leak, that was really an overflowing toilet that was purposely stopped up. Batches of the ballots were run through twice, as witnessed on the security tapes.

Of course these deviations you obviously do not question. Instead you question a deviation you profess to see. In addition, you provided no references to back up the claims you see. Are you even sure that the facts you presented are the facts? If you are, then to make your case you should provide them.

All it sounded like to me was snark, pure & simple

If he did behave differently this time there could be many reasons, none of them equating to him playing anyone. In my eyes, he is just commenting on the lawfare he is facing, that is costing him money & giving hi headaches. You should be questing the lawfare BS, instead of his reaction.

If you are really concerned about our nation, you should be concerned what is happening to Trump. He had the 2020 election stolen from him. A usurper was installed as president, and he is an outright criminal who is a traitor to this nation who is hellbent on destroying this nation. People who assembled to protested the election theft, were cajoled into entering the Capitol Building, were incarcerated without due process. They were mistreated in the D.C. prison. The defendants lawyers were not given exculpatory evidence as they should under the Brady Rule.

Trump is the only one who will fight the illegitimate Deep State Uni-party criminal enterprise. Since Trump was fighting for this nation on her citizens, you & everyone else that is concerned about this nation, should be supporting Trump. Because we cannot afford to allow them to get away with the election theft, the mistreatment of citizens, and denying the citizens that are ours by the grace of God, not man. Help him finish his job, by supporting him, which is supporting yourself, your family, & this nation.

For those reasons I reject your claims of being concerned about our nation.

Not one of those vying for the presidency will do what must be done, including & especially DeSantis, as he is running as the Deep State/Uni-party candidate. Vivek Ramaswamy would be good, if he can satisfy the NBC (Natural Born Citizen) requirement. At least he talks the right stuff, right now.

I never said I was unopened to other hypothesis.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOURS!

YOU HEARD IT, AND YOU REJECTED MY FACTS THAT IT'S LAWFARE BS, PERIOD.

153 posted on 07/18/2023 7:15:06 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I think I explained my position pretty well when I asked you a question from which I have not heard an answer.


154 posted on 07/18/2023 7:46:29 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Bttt


155 posted on 07/18/2023 8:25:39 PM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: Golden Eagle

He is the only one who took on the Deep State. And he was stabbed in the back so many times by his so called friends that he was not buried. His corpse was sent to the foundry to be melted down and more knives made for the Republican Party. With friends like the Republicans, one needs enemies badly.


156 posted on 07/18/2023 8:33:22 PM PDT by sport
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To: dforest

The election is in 15 months. There is no way this lingers for 15 months. As for fake charges, do you really think that matters. Unlike the document trial this will be held in DC. Trump once said he would not lose a supporter if there was a video of him shooting someone on 5th Ave. Well the reverse is true as well. If accused of being the Lindbergh kidnapper, a DC jury would take ten minutes to find him guilty. I don’t know if he is going to prison, but Donald Trump will not be #47.


157 posted on 07/18/2023 8:45:09 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Golden Eagle

What year is video from?

I question some things about Trump but its extremely irresponsible
Of FRs posting things without clear info.

All people have views that change (either see the light and change direction or continue further in direction of their view) no one stays the same exact view from year to year.


158 posted on 07/18/2023 8:58:25 PM PDT by b4me
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To: Dagny Muriel

I didn’t write a non-coherent vanity.

It’s not even clear if you’re criticizing Trump or what.


159 posted on 07/18/2023 9:11:05 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

So a post which asks for opinions and does not lend itself to bias is incoherent?


160 posted on 07/18/2023 9:48:09 PM PDT by Dagny Muriel (NEVER TRUST what you read, hear, or see. NO one in power is trustworthy. Follow the $ for the truth.)
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