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Brigham Young - American Wisdom
https://freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity.com/ ^ | 1st June 2021 | Ozguy1945

Posted on 06/01/2023 8:28:15 AM PDT by Ozguy1945

Brigham Young, born on June 1, 18o1, lead his people to find a safe place for themselves in the Salt Lake Vally and found Salt Lake City.

He said: "Education is the power to think clearly, the power to act well in the world's work, and the power to appreciate life."

"The biggest labor problem is tomorrow."

"Nature is the glass reflecting God, as by the sea reflected is the sun, too glorious to be gazed on in his sphere."

God Bless Brigham Young

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To: Fai Mao

I think Fauci may have them all beat. His world wide COVID cult was established over the entire planet in a matter of weeks with magic masks to show your obedience and faith.


21 posted on 06/01/2023 10:27:54 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Good starting point. Simple research into the real histories of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and not the sanitized Mormon histories will lead to the conclusion that these men were not what the Mormons report them to be. When it comes to spiritual wisdom run away from Brigham Young or Joseph Smith as quickly as you can.


22 posted on 06/01/2023 10:37:00 AM PDT by CommerceComet ("You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case, the government forgets the first." Rush Limbaugh )
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To: rickomatic

Lutheran’s do it too. No religion is free from superstition.

Beam in the eye and all that.


23 posted on 06/01/2023 11:03:10 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: MeganC

“Yes. And tell us bread magically turning into flesh”

“If you eat too much bread it WILL turn into flesh. Trust me on this.”

And if you bury shallow and plant grain, it can be turned into bread again.


24 posted on 06/01/2023 11:49:18 AM PDT by conserv8
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To: laweeks

Seems Joseph Smith was a piker compared to King Solomon. Also, the result was the same as with Solomon.

1 Kings 11
1But †King Solomon loved †many foreign women, as well as the daughter of Pharaoh: women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, and Hittites— 2from the nations of whom the LORD had said to the children of Israel, †“ You shall not intermarry with them, nor they with you. Surely they will turn away your hearts after their gods.” Solomon clung to these in love.
3And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines; and his wives turned away his heart. 4For it was so, when Solomon was old, †that his wives turned his heart after other gods; and his †heart was not aloyal to the LORD his God, †as was the heart of his father David.

Thomas Nelson. NKJV, Holy Bible (p. 1423). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.


25 posted on 06/01/2023 12:17:26 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: teppe

Of some god, perhaps, but not the One True God.


26 posted on 06/01/2023 1:57:13 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Ozguy1945
Brigham Young, born on June 1, 18o1, lead his people to find a safe place for themselves in the Salt Lake Vally and found Salt Lake City.

Brigham; second Living Prophet®, failed to mention to his followers that so many of them were going to DIE on the walk to Utah.

Did GOD tell him not to tell?

Did GOD say anything at all to him about the trip??

If failing to go west would have gotten the Mormons "exterminated", why did the RLDS group that stayed behind not have any more problems from 'gentiles'???

27 posted on 06/01/2023 7:19:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fai Mao
Or maybe he got the pattern from the golden plates that are really just parts of the Egyptian book of the dead - how to make a mummy.

Not Brigham, but the first guy: Joseph Smith.

28 posted on 06/01/2023 7:21:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
You mean the inner clothing that some wear as a sign of temple of covenants made to God?

Yeah, the changeable garment - the design of which canNOT be found in ANY Mormon scripture.


Some folks (all Mormons) think that the garments are SACRED; not to be spoken of to outsiders.

But, if that is true, why are they not found somewhere in the Quad??

29 posted on 06/01/2023 7:24:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
You mean the inner clothing that some wear as a sign of temple of covenants made to God?

And those 'covenants'?

They are strangely missing as well.

30 posted on 06/01/2023 7:25:35 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe

“There’s a sucker born every minute “

— P. T. Barnum,


31 posted on 06/01/2023 7:26:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nesnah

Must be time to drag out the Mormon FaithBook.


32 posted on 06/01/2023 7:27:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MeganC

Especially if the bread is formed into a circle and glazed.


33 posted on 06/01/2023 7:28:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rickomatic
Like THIS?


 
...with his face stuck in a hat.
 



"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."
---Joseph Knight's journal.


"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.
(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),
"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.

"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,
as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,
and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.

In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:

"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."


"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"
reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881
in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)

In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:
 
 "When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,
Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12
June 15, 1879,  pp. 190-91.)


Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:
 
"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"
("A New Witness for Christ in America,"
Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)


"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."
---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.

34 posted on 06/01/2023 7:29:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CommerceComet

 
 
"Joseph looked into the hat in which he placed the stone, and received a revelation that some of the brethren should go to Toronto, Canada, and that they would sell the copyright of the Book of Mormon.
 
 Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery went to Toronto on this mission, but they failed entirely to sell the copyright, returning without any money.
 
Joseph was at my father's house when they returned.
 
 I was there also, and am an eye witness to these facts.
 
Jacob Whitmer and John Whitmer were also present when Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery returned from Canada.
 
Well, we were all in great trouble; and we asked Joseph how it was that he had received a revelation from the Lord for some brethren to go to Toronto and sell the copyright, and the brethren had utterly failed in their undertaking.
 
Joseph did not know how it was, so he enquired of the Lord about it, and behold the following revelation came through the stone:   'Some revelations are of God: some revelations are of men: and some revelations are of the devil.'
 
So we see that the revelation to go to Toronto and sell the copyright was not of God, but was of the devil or of the heart of man."
 
--David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, in EMD 5: 198.

 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Whitmer
 
http://latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100023.pdf 

35 posted on 06/01/2023 7:31:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SubMareener; wita
Acts 19:1-3
 
1 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the interior and came to Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you became believers?”
 
“No,” they answered, “we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”
 
3 “Into what, then, were you baptized?” Paul asked.
 
“The baptism of John,” they replied.…
 

 
While Elsie was at home one day, there came a knocking upon his door.
 
Opening it, he found 2 elders who simultaneouly told him, "Hi.  We would like to help you learn more about who GOD and Jesus Christ are."
 
“Will you be using the LDS 'Inspired Version' of the bible?”, Elsie questioned.
 
“No,” they answered, “we have not even heard that there is a 'Inspired Version' !”
 
"You mean it is NOT found in your Quad?", Elsie asked.
 
 "No", they replied; in stereo.
 
"Strange", said Elsie, "considering ALL the work Joseph Smith put into obeying the COMMAND of GOD.  Especially in light of the Articles of Faith casting doubt on the accuracy of the KJ version; too."

36 posted on 06/01/2023 7:32:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Seruzawa

Not quite but close. Lutherans believe that in with and under the bread and wine one receives the body and blood of Christ. We do not believe the bread and wine are magically transformed into something else These are the direct word of Christ recorded in Scripture not requiring a new translation or magical instruments to see the translation so not directly comparable to mormonism but ymmv. There are many differences between Christianity and mormonism - they are not the same religion by any means. the mormons themselves will tell you that.


37 posted on 06/01/2023 7:33:30 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: Elsie
In June of 1830, Joseph Smith, Jr., received the word of God as it was revealed to Moses.

The work of translation began in the latter half of 1830 and was completed on July 2, 1833, although the manuscripts indicate additional editing by Joseph after that date. Many sections in the Doctrine and Covenants give the Lord's instructions regarding the translation (see D&C 34:5; 42:5c, 15a; 45:11a; 73:2a; 76:3c; 87:5a; and 90:12).

Although the work is referred to as a "translation," it should be understood that the process of receiving the text was primarily revelatory, as opposed to the modern definition of scholarly conversion of a writing from one language to another. The Doctrine and Covenants indicates the inspired and revelatory nature of the work: "the Scriptures shall be given even as they are in mine own bosom, to the salvation of mine own elect" (D&C 34:5b).


38 posted on 06/01/2023 7:36:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mom MD
...the mormons themselves will tell you that.

And then they won't.

And, at some later time, may do so again.

39 posted on 06/01/2023 7:38:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie  wrote:

“The Joseph Smith Translation, or Inspired Version, is a thousand times over the best Bible now existing on earth. It contains all that the King James Version does, plus pages of additions and corrections and an occasional deletion. It was made by the spirit of revelation, and the changes and additions are the equivalent of the revealed word in the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants. For historical and other reasons, there has been among some members of the Church in times past some prejudice and misunderstanding of the place of the Joseph Smith Translation. I hope this has now all vanished away. Our new Church Bible footnotes many of the major changes made in the Inspired Version and has a seventeen-page section which sets forth excerpts that are too lengthy for inclusion in the footnotes. Reference to this section and to the footnotes themselves will give anyone who has spiritual insight a deep appreciation of this revelatory work of the Prophet Joseph Smith. It is one of the great evidences of his prophetic call”

(Sermons and Writings of Bruce R. McConkie, p. 289).        http://www.mrm.org/smith-inspired-version

40 posted on 06/01/2023 7:39:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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