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A Winter War In Ukraine Favors Russia And Will Be Bloody
19FortyFive ^ | 10/14/2022 | Daniel L. Davis

Posted on 10/15/2022 7:56:05 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111

As the Ukrainian Armed Forces (AFU) say they hope their offensive reaches the city of Kherson by this winter, Russia continues preparation for a massive counterattack which could begin as early as next month. The results of that battle are likely to be bloody and destructive, but unlikely to settle the war one way or the other.

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To: Vermont Lt

It’s like 1939/40 all over again.


81 posted on 10/15/2022 11:13:40 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Vigilanteman

https://twitter.com/nemesis20212/status/1581285845138489345?s=20&t=vfYyEb-E117qP7hbGbMtaQ


82 posted on 10/15/2022 11:15:13 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: whyilovetexas111

https://twitter.com/nemesis20212/status/1581285845138489345?s=20&t=vfYyEb-E117qP7hbGbMtaQ


83 posted on 10/15/2022 11:15:45 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: Godzilla

https://twitter.com/nemesis20212/status/1581285845138489345?s=20&t=vfYyEb-E117qP7hbGbMtaQ


84 posted on 10/15/2022 11:16:13 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: Pelham

Standby for false flag...

I wish we had spent the $85 billion in the US on our border.
That builds an entire wall, hires more BP agents, and gets them a bunch of tech.
The National Guard should be mustered as well.

Energy needs to be addressed, as well as critical manufacturing.
We need new nuclear plants.


85 posted on 10/15/2022 11:26:21 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Flag_This
Do russians possess some sort of natural immunity to freezing?

Saw videos of new recruits and reserves loading up on antifreeze, so it must be true.
86 posted on 10/15/2022 11:39:11 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: whyilovetexas111

No. Mud and cold always favor the defenders. Because they don’t have to march or camp.


87 posted on 10/15/2022 11:42:26 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“ I was also told ukraine would end the war in 30 days.

Twice at different times.”

Yeah, and I heard that Bigfoot had Elvis‘s baby. Unbelievable statements from unreliable sources are plentiful. And meaningless.


88 posted on 10/15/2022 12:02:38 PM PDT by jdsteel (PA voters: it’s Oz or Fetterman. Deal with it and vote accordingly.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Logistics AND logic as well, so it appears.


89 posted on 10/15/2022 12:37:33 PM PDT by Godzilla (Never give up, never surrender . . . . . .)
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To: Dr. Franklin
Russia can’t supply their troops in the field now.

Bingo!

I keep reading about how Vlad the Invader supposedly can turn things around with a full mobilization. But, if the Russian MOD can't train and equip the current levies adequately, it is simply absurd to believe that they could adequately organize, train, and equip a million-man draft.

90 posted on 10/15/2022 12:47:01 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: ansel12
The other part of it is that Red Army of 1939-1945 could - and did - just shoot anyone even suspected of doing their job poorly, or stealing, etc.. So though the Red Army was blindingly incompetent in 1941, a whole lot of trial and error, plus the ruthless elimination of anyone impeding the effectiveness of the army, made them decent enough on a unit level by the end of the war.

But now, Russia is a kleptocracy without the restraining/motivating force of ruthless kommissars to keep it in check. Especially after the losses to their contract forces, what's left is like what they had in 1941. I don't see how you fix that without a full-on mobilization/national commitment.

91 posted on 10/15/2022 12:52:19 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: jdsteel

—> Unbelievable statements from unreliable sources are plentiful. And meaningless.

Well, they were Zeepers…


92 posted on 10/15/2022 1:01:38 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: EEGator

Boy that’s a fact.

Border wall.
Nuke plants, based on a standardized design.

And California desperately needs a reliable fresh water supply.

80% of our water goes to agriculture which the rest of the country relies upon.

I’ve heard that decades ago an undersea pipe from the Columbia river was proposed. It would collect water at the river mouth and bring it down to California to hook up with our aqueduct system.


93 posted on 10/15/2022 1:02:16 PM PDT by Pelham (World War III will be fought with nuclear weapons. World War IV will be fought with rocks & sticks.)
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To: ansel12

—> It was all an illusion,

If you believe the ukie propaganda, sure

—> 8 months later the broken Russian military is hoping to overwhelm its neighbor with Stalin-type fighting, masses of sacrificial cannon fodder, and mass destruction.

Stay tuned and we’ll see.


94 posted on 10/15/2022 1:04:18 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Pelham

At some point desalinization makes sense. Involve government funds if need be.
Way better use of money than a high speed rail...


95 posted on 10/15/2022 1:30:40 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Yet 8 months later we are talking about whether the Russians can correct their problems and launch a successful counterattack in an invasion that was supposed to have not even developed into a real war.

If the coverage had been fake, then we would not be having the situation that Russia is in today.


96 posted on 10/15/2022 2:25:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Pelham

It wasn’t long ago that a California reservoir was drained because the security cameras picked up a teen pissing into the water.


97 posted on 10/15/2022 2:27:31 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12
Yet 8 months later we are talking about whether the Russians can correct their problems and launch a successful counterattack in an invasion that was supposed to have not even developed into a real war.

I can understand why someone would see it that way - lots that's true. I don't see it as inclusive of all facts though, so we will disagree and I'm comfortable watching how it unfolds.

If the coverage had been fake, then we would not be having the situation that Russia is in today.

I will disagree with your conclusion here also.

It has not been a static situation. The US has flooded the zone with weapons, money, military contractors, air defense systems, intelligence targeting, etc. Also, there is the continual threat that NATO will get involved with it's own troops too. Putin must cope with all these things and not lose.

Since I do not know his mind, again, I won't reach your conclusion until we see more unfold.

98 posted on 10/15/2022 2:33:09 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: whyilovetexas111

Welcome to FR.

5.56mm


99 posted on 10/15/2022 2:40:59 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go)
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To: whyilovetexas111

After reading the article (violating Freeeper Rule #1, “Never read the post before commenting”), was anything in it about fighting in winter, or was it just Daniels summary of how he thinks the war is going so far? This is not the mythologized Russia of World War II and the Cold War anymore. Winter favors neither side. The side that is least disadvantage is the one better equipped for the weather. When freshly mobilized Russian troops are arriving in Ukraine without training or gear, Russia is setting itself up for any winter offensives their command may be planning.


100 posted on 10/15/2022 3:41:54 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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